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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
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Posted - 2014.12.01 22:39:00 -
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So, I decided to have a little fun with the Officer weapon GÇ£event," finally got around to posting it.
Specifically I set out to test the theory that you get more salvage when you AFK or enter a match just as it leaves. It would be impossible (or at least extremely boring and time-consuming) to ever test it otherwise since it is so rare to get officer salvage.
The experiment was pretty simple: AFK for -+ the battles during the event. I did my best to even things out by doing equal portions of all three game modes but itGÇÖs obviously not practical to AFK an ambush match. I used some alts and different servers too, just for the heck of it.
I ended up doing about 10-15 matches of each game mode, 20 AFK and 18 actually playing. (Having a life, I am unable to no-life a video game). I kept track of whether or not I was AFK, which mode, whether or not I joined late, and my relative position on the leaderboard when I did get an officer drop. I joined probably 4-5 matches a little late, only once was the battle just about to end.
Results:
1)The salvage gods donGÇÖt like me, and I hate them right the f*ck back! I only got 3 officer drops the whole damn time... And no LRs! *shakes fist*
2)One drop occurred while AFK. (Domination)
3)Two drops came when I actually played. ( 1 Ambush, 1 skirmish)
4)It seems like I got more non-officer salvage when I was AFK but since I wasnGÇÖt really keeping track of that I canGÇÖt be sure.
5)Zero officer salvage occurred in matches I joined late
6)I was #2 on the leaderboard in the ambush match in which I got salvage, #4 in skirmish, obviously near the bottom in the AFK one.
7)My team won 2/3 battles in which I got an officer drop.
Conclusion: It seems pretty random, IGÇÖd be more confident in that if I did twice as many battles but I only had a week. Certainly it does not look like you get more officer weapons when you are AFK.
(Also: pretty lame how little salvage I got during an GÇ£eventGÇ¥)
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
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Posted - 2014.12.02 03:45:00 -
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Changed title to accurately reflect the content or something logical like that.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
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Posted - 2014.12.02 04:58:00 -
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Mmmmm, I did a hefty amount of both every day of the event.
I got one wolfmans drop.
GG
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2014.12.02 05:57:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:Mmmmm, I did a hefty amount of both every day of the event.
I got one wolfmans drop.
GG
Same. Got one unhealthy drop of Beacon's Swarmies.
Yesterday, I got 3 Cala's for joining a late match, though. |
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.02 08:16:00 -
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Could have saved you the time for that experiment. Salvage is 100% random, not based on contribution and certainly not increased by AFKing.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Aderek
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
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Posted - 2014.12.02 08:29:00 -
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Salvage is 100% random ;0
I many times was join on end of battle and get officers weapons ;)
Rattati: what if afk/? 0wp create 0sp/isk/lp ?
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
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Posted - 2014.12.02 08:45:00 -
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Aderek wrote:
Rattati: what if afk/? 0wp create 0sp/isk/lp ?
Problem is still - joinning at end of match.
If your random party wins... no problem. keep 0 anything.
But when you join and you loose match (most of cases - because ppl leave matches when they feel loose) and there is no way that you can help, you gain nothing .. and bad stats.
After this you loose faith more then anything there.
If there will be sweet animation that dropship is comming for you and pilot says 'Sorry guys we don't make it at time. Take this supply away" - I think this will be considered as good option.
Not much time left...
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
2231
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Posted - 2014.12.02 09:01:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Could have saved you the time for that experiment. Salvage is 100% random, not based on contribution and certainly not increased by AFKing.
salvage in pub matches needs to be same as FW salvage.
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
532
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Posted - 2014.12.02 09:29:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Could have saved you the time for that experiment. Salvage is 100% random, not based on contribution and certainly not increased by AFKing. salvage in pub matches needs to be same as FW salvage.
Only if you can buy officer weapon in LP store.
Not much time left...
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Lynn Beck
Delta Vanguard 6
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Posted - 2014.12.02 09:35:00 -
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Maybe not going quite that far, but if we could at the very least set up a % chance system, with ranks 8-10 and under getting no chance and rank 1/2 having highest chance, we could go a long ways towards making loot seem... not so damn troll like.
Monster Hunter had this problem, Apple had this problem, they all solved it by making it NOT 100% RANDOM.
In terms of the Apple one: They fixed it by adding in code to make sure the shuffle didn't contain 2 songs by the same artist too often, or songs with similar names.
Monster Hunter still does have this problem: You need Scales(a super common part) to forge a weapon, but for the next 20-30 quests(each taking 20-40 minutes) you get 0 scales- when previous to that weapon you had gotten 5-10 every round.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.12.02 09:40:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Could have saved you the time for that experiment. Salvage is 100% random, not based on contribution and certainly not increased by AFKing.
This is the same guy that said The whole Mu mechanic was supposed to prevent que syncing and build you up to a point of some kind of equality against an opposing team.
I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
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Posted - 2014.12.02 10:19:00 -
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I got 2 officer drops during the entire event, tonight I got 5.
Because, that's why.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.12.02 10:22:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Could have saved you the time for that experiment. Salvage is 100% random, not based on contribution and certainly not increased by AFKing. This is the same guy that said The whole Mu mechanic was supposed to prevent que syncing and build you up to a point of some kind of equality against an opposing team.
There is a difference between quoting a hard coded mechanic, which this is, and managing difficult statistical balancing with highly variable and unpredictable resources.
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Wis Legend
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.02 11:00:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Could have saved you the time for that experiment. Salvage is 100% random, not based on contribution and certainly not increased by AFKing.
Random hates me...
During all time of this event, I got 3 LR. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
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Posted - 2014.12.02 12:03:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Could have saved you the time for that experiment. Salvage is 100% random, not based on contribution and certainly not increased by AFKing.
But where's the fun in that?
(p.s. Always worth it to get a blue tag, lol.)
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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fragmentedhackslash
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.12.02 12:11:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Could have saved you the time for that experiment. Salvage is 100% random, not based on contribution and certainly not increased by AFKing.
This. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2492499#post2492499
Ask around. It's disgusting. Has been for a very long time.
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CrotchGrab 360
Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase
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Posted - 2014.12.02 12:19:00 -
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it has to be random otherwise people would start boosting to farm officer weapons, somehow, scrubs always find a way!
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robin williams' ghost
Damaged Beyond Repair
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Posted - 2014.12.02 12:49:00 -
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
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Posted - 2014.12.02 13:55:00 -
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Wis Legend wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Could have saved you the time for that experiment. Salvage is 100% random, not based on contribution and certainly not increased by AFKing. Random hates me... During all time of this event, I got 3 LR.
Would trade you all 9 weapons I got during the event for those, in a heartbeat.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.12.02 15:41:00 -
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You know all I wanted out of that event was some kubo cannons man.
Hath thy gods no pity!? Not a single Kubo. Though I did get a nice batch of Gio`s scramblers.
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
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Posted - 2014.12.02 15:47:00 -
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Terrible event was terrible.
Calling it an event is pretty questionable. 2x0 = 0, who cares if the drop rate of once in a blue moon was double to twice in a blue moon, you still get next to nothing.
Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
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Sir Snugglz
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.12.02 16:11:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Could have saved you the time for that experiment. Salvage is 100% random, not based on contribution and certainly not increased by AFKing.
With all the nerfs to afkers its nice to see some balance in salvage. Good to know that afkers have the same chance to salvage weapons as active mercs do. This is a small step at balancing afking. Keep it up CCP
-Pro AFKing LVL 5
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
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Posted - 2014.12.02 19:12:00 -
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Sir Snugglz wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Could have saved you the time for that experiment. Salvage is 100% random, not based on contribution and certainly not increased by AFKing. With all the nerfs to afkers its nice to see some balance in salvage. Good to know that afkers have the same chance to salvage weapons as active mercs do. This is a small step at balancing afking. Keep it up CCP
Lol. Unfortunately I see no other enhancements on the newly-published roadmap. You may want to start your feedback/discussion thread or enlist a sympathetic CPM member now before the content for the next patch gets locked!
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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