DUST Search - A "Laser HMG" would be boring

True Adamance wrote:

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

I keep hearing the idea get brought up whenever people are thinking of some kind of an Amarr heavy weapon, and recently Rattati has embraced the idea

CCP Rattati wrote:

My idea is to create, using existing assets, a heavy plasma cannon (mortar), a heavy laser and a heavy HMG (autocannon)

They would be more than capable at taking out vehicles, be proper "H" weapons even if they share a model with the light weapon and be differentiated by firing behaviour and effect.

I believe this can be done with our tools. Now just to balance them.

Personally, I don't think we need another HMG with just a different damage profile. I would prefer something more unique.

I'd like to see the Amarr heavy weapon be a precision weapon like the forge gun, preferably with good damage against vehicles, but with a higher fire rate for better anti-infantry capabilities. I'm imagining something with high alpha, lower DPS than an HMG, and can be used as sort of a heavy rifle similar to a sniper rifle that you can hipfire. Range should be better than the HMG, but not amazing.

Basically a laser version of this to impale people.
Seeeeeriously, click the link, it's awesome.

EDIT: I think what I'm suggesting can work with existing assets, in fact a scrambler rifle could probably be modified into what I'm proposing (much lower ROF, much higher damage, 50%+ efficacy against vehicle, no charge)

I demand and Elephant Rifle because we Amarr are true gentlemen hunters. And use a Beam Laser as a High Alpha Anti Tank Gun.

The concept of a Melta Gun could also be implemented. Basically a Short range Pulse Laser Ammunition Type that concentrates the Electromagnetism and Heat generate by the weapon into a deadly high DPS/Alpha (whatever) anti tank gun .

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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 11641	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:03:00 - [1] - Quote I keep hearing the idea get brought up whenever people are thinking of some kind of an Amarr heavy weapon, and recently Rattati has embraced the idea CCP Rattati wrote: My idea is to create, using existing assets, a heavy plasma cannon (mortar), a heavy laser and a heavy HMG (autocannon) They would be more than capable at taking out vehicles, be proper "H" weapons even if they share a model with the light weapon and be differentiated by firing behaviour and effect. I believe this can be done with our tools. Now just to balance them. Personally, I don't think we need another HMG with just a different damage profile. I would prefer something more unique. I'd like to see the Amarr heavy weapon be a precision weapon like the forge gun, preferably with good damage against vehicles, but with a higher fire rate for better anti-infantry capabilities. I'm imagining something with high alpha, lower DPS than an HMG, and can be used as sort of a heavy rifle similar to a sniper rifle that you can hipfire. Range should be better than the HMG, but not amazing. Basically a laser version of this to impale people. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5205	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:05:00 - [2] - Quote Me too buddy, but we have to work with existing assets because reasons. All things considered, I would love a slightly larger laser rifle model that fires a ****-off beam for a few seconds at a time. Let that be the Scrambler Lance we were told about two forevers ago. My advice to you, playa...
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 250	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:06:00 - [3] - Quote You have obviously never played fallout and used the Gatling laser >.> I say it gives shield damage bonus, longer range, higher rate of fire, and less damage. We can dream yo <3 G.L.O.R.Y Soldier, I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 11641	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:07:00 - [4] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Me too buddy, but we have to work with existing assets because reasons. All things considered, I would love a slightly larger laser rifle model that fires a **-off beam for a few seconds at a time. Let that be the Scrambler Lance we were told about two forevers ago. I think what I'm suggesting can work with existing assets, in fact a scrambler rifle could probably be modified into what I'm proposing (much lower ROF, much higher damage, 50%+ efficacy against vehicle, no charge) Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt**Gû+
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3678	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:09:00 - [5] - Quote Heavy Laser - +20%/-20% Instant Damage (Unlike Forge which requires a charge before damage application) Damage Increases gradually as Heat Increases After a certain threshold the gun starts giving off gradual feedback damage Rate of feedback damage increases as Heat Increases Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 975	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:22:00 - [6] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Heavy Laser - +20%/-20% Instant Damage (Unlike Forge which requires a charge before damage application) Damage Increases gradually as Heat Increases After a certain threshold the gun starts giving off gradual feedback damage Rate of feedback damage increases as Heat Increases I... I like this... I like it a lot. Quafe Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Blueprint For Murder Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 421	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:29:00 - [7] - Quote Search: "New Heavy Weapon Concept: Blueprint For Murder" and tell me what you guys think. 21 day fast 12/1/14 Life-$
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15284	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:43:00 - [8] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I keep hearing the idea get brought up whenever people are thinking of some kind of an Amarr heavy weapon, and recently Rattati has embraced the idea CCP Rattati wrote: My idea is to create, using existing assets, a heavy plasma cannon (mortar), a heavy laser and a heavy HMG (autocannon) They would be more than capable at taking out vehicles, be proper "H" weapons even if they share a model with the light weapon and be differentiated by firing behaviour and effect. I believe this can be done with our tools. Now just to balance them. Personally, I don't think we need another HMG with just a different damage profile. I would prefer something more unique. I'd like to see the Amarr heavy weapon be a precision weapon like the forge gun, preferably with good damage against vehicles, but with a higher fire rate for better anti-infantry capabilities. I'm imagining something with high alpha, lower DPS than an HMG, and can be used as sort of a heavy rifle similar to a sniper rifle that you can hipfire. Range should be better than the HMG, but not amazing. Basically a laser version of this to impale people. Seeeeeriously, click the link, it's awesome. EDIT: I think what I'm suggesting can work with existing assets, in fact a scrambler rifle could probably be modified into what I'm proposing (much lower ROF, much higher damage, 50%+ efficacy against vehicle, no charge) I demand and Elephant Rifle because we Amarr are true gentlemen hunters. I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this. Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
Spectral Clone Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3190	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:50:00 - [9] - Quote Gatling lasers exist in EVE. We have a gatling gun model -> To do: make it shoot lasers. EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15284	Posted - 2014.12.01 21:55:00 - [10] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Gatling lasers exist in EVE. We have a gatling gun model -> To do: make it shoot lasers. That's incredibly unimaginative and personally not and AV weapon. Amarr don't need more high DPS anti infantry weapons. We need AV alpha weapons. I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this. Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...

DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 15339	Posted - 2014.12.01 22:00:00 - [11] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Heavy Laser - +20%/-20% Instant Damage (Unlike Forge which requires a charge before damage application) Damage Increases gradually as Heat Increases After a certain threshold the gun starts giving off gradual feedback damage Rate of feedback damage increases as Heat Increases The damage would have to be much lower than the forge gun if it has instant damage application, as that directly leads to easier aiming and handling, which indirectly leads to higher DPS thanks to more reliable damage application Flight Academy coming soon(tm) to my YouTube WoD 514
Feldt-Grace Anaheim Electronics Manufacture Company 50	Posted - 2014.12.01 22:26:00 - [12] - Quote Dual Chain-Scramblergun(notlgatling) oh yeah - TRANS-AM! Gundam, DUST and more Gameplays
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6272	Posted - 2014.12.01 22:31:00 - [13] - Quote But what about a short range Flame Thrower heavy weapon? 0 -5 m with a small charge up time, and an overheat function that blows the fuel tank. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3685	Posted - 2014.12.01 22:34:00 - [14] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Heavy Laser - +20%/-20% Instant Damage (Unlike Forge which requires a charge before damage application) Damage Increases gradually as Heat Increases After a certain threshold the gun starts giving off gradual feedback damage Rate of feedback damage increases as Heat Increases The damage would have to be much lower than the forge gun if it has instant damage application, as that directly leads to easier aiming and handling, which indirectly leads to higher DPS thanks to more reliable damage application Indeed. You could also push something out similar to the Light Laser Rifle, and have a minimum optimal range in terms of damage. There are ways to limit it of course, but I think it would be pretty legit to have a Heavy weapon where a bonus to reduced Feedback Damage actually was a factor. All in all the need for Anti-Shield AV is real. Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
Mex-0 179	Posted - 2014.12.01 22:35:00 - [15] - Quote I just want my amarr smg! It would compliment my mass driver pretty well. Meh, I give up on FW.
Vordred Knight T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 502	Posted - 2014.12.01 22:36:00 - [16] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Stuff so we can use this on amarr havs... oh wait im sorry Don't Do Drugs while playing Eve
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 976	Posted - 2014.12.01 22:40:00 - [17] - Quote Vordred Knight wrote: True Adamance wrote: Stuff so we can use this on amarr havs... oh wait im sorry Terrible... Shameless plug of a troll, and for one, you wouldn't be using an Amarr weapon on an Amarrian vehicle... That's sacrilege and bad damage profile... Quafe Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3685	Posted - 2014.12.01 22:41:00 - [18] - Quote Vordred Knight wrote: True Adamance wrote: Stuff so we can use this on amarr havs... oh wait im sorry Don't troll True too much, he bites when you mock his needs. I imagine his first time in an Amarr HAV will be both a religious and sexual experience. After that he won't even know what to do with himself. Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 374	Posted - 2014.12.01 23:09:00 - [19] - Quote Here's my brainfart for your consideration Amarr Heavy weapon, Forge gun model, goldish shaded. GÇó Small Charge up time like the scrambler, them like the laser rifle lets out a laser that sends pockets of increased damage across its path, shortening the interval every time. Overheat it and damage would be so massive that even a heavy would be in trouble. Keep the beam on a tank and you are dealing mayor damage but overheat and you are screwed. Infantry would be doable but very hard to track with the beam. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15288	Posted - 2014.12.01 23:22:00 - [20] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Vordred Knight wrote: True Adamance wrote: Stuff so we can use this on amarr havs... oh wait im sorry Don't troll True too much, he bites when you mock his needs. I imagine his first time in an Amarr HAV will be both a religious and sexual experience. After that he won't even know what to do with himself. The above is true. I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this. Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...

Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2812	Posted - 2014.12.01 23:29:00 - [21] - Quote I'd like a FG model that shoots a beefy laser, as it would make for a nice long-range precision AV weapon for anti-air operations. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Jack Boost Zarena Family 521	Posted - 2014.12.01 23:36:00 - [22] - Quote Steady beam of light with moving cone of damage from gun to the end. When enabled no way to stop it but you can track the target: 2-3 sec, charge and again like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUkc1VGMVb4 but much wider and it left heat track on the ground. If laserifle is the 'rapier' this must be 'ram' Not much time left...
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 442	Posted - 2014.12.01 23:41:00 - [23] - Quote I personally WANT the heavy laser. That's just me though.
CLONE117 True Pros Forever 876	Posted - 2014.12.02 01:01:00 - [24] - Quote i feel the gal heavy weapon should be some what similar to a large blaster turret. or something like that. damage can be lowered and rof increased. as well as some other changes. ADD PVE CCP!!! WE HAVE BEEN SCREAMING THIS FOR YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Megaman Trigger Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 137	Posted - 2014.12.02 01:09:00 - [25] - Quote True Adamance wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I keep hearing the idea get brought up whenever people are thinking of some kind of an Amarr heavy weapon, and recently Rattati has embraced the idea CCP Rattati wrote: My idea is to create, using existing assets, a heavy plasma cannon (mortar), a heavy laser and a heavy HMG (autocannon) They would be more than capable at taking out vehicles, be proper "H" weapons even if they share a model with the light weapon and be differentiated by firing behaviour and effect. I believe this can be done with our tools. Now just to balance them. Personally, I don't think we need another HMG with just a different damage profile. I would prefer something more unique. I'd like to see the Amarr heavy weapon be a precision weapon like the forge gun, preferably with good damage against vehicles, but with a higher fire rate for better anti-infantry capabilities. I'm imagining something with high alpha, lower DPS than an HMG, and can be used as sort of a heavy rifle similar to a sniper rifle that you can hipfire. Range should be better than the HMG, but not amazing. Basically a laser version of this to impale people. Seeeeeriously, click the link, it's awesome. EDIT: I think what I'm suggesting can work with existing assets, in fact a scrambler rifle could probably be modified into what I'm proposing (much lower ROF, much higher damage, 50%+ efficacy against vehicle, no charge) I demand and Elephant Rifle because we Amarr are true gentlemen hunters. And use a Beam Laser as a High Alpha Anti Tank Gun. The concept of a Melta Gun could also be implemented. Basically a Short range Pulse Laser Ammunition Type that concentrates the Electromagnetism and Heat generate by the weapon into a deadly high DPS/Alpha (whatever) anti tank gun . Melta weapons? In Dust? I think the Lascannon might be a better option to try and use. That or just a super sized Laser Rifle. I want my Shining Laser! Purifier. First Class.
Feldt-Grace Anaheim Electronics Manufacture Company 50	Posted - 2014.12.02 01:20:00 - [26] - Quote Shining FINGEEEEEEEEEERS!!! TRANS-AM! Gundam, DUST and more Gameplays


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