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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.12.01 18:01:00 -
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So....here it is.
I've named it: DIVINE SIN
Also, notice that depending on the map i might change the Kaalakiota RR for an Assault Ishuk. RR and depending on the amount of scouts, the Shield ext might be replaced for a 2nd Precision enhancer effectively dropping my scan precision down to 17.85db.
YEah. DAMP THOSE SCOUTS B***s
Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.12.01 18:14:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:
aaaaaaaaand this is why assault suits are useless.
WHY?
Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2014.12.01 18:27:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Too much armor. Well not really is the amarr is the antiscout so perfect not too much.
AFter you SNIPED ME That last time i kind of had to put some more HP on it....Remember my 200k+ suit i QQ about?? this was it XD
Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.12.01 18:45:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:So....here it is. I've named it: DIVINE SINAlso, notice that depending on the map i might change the Kaalakiota RR for an Assault Ishuk. RR and depending on the amount of scouts, the Shield ext might be replaced for a 2nd Precision enhancer effectively dropping my scan precision down to 17.85db.YEah. DAMP THOSE SCOUTS B***s scouts are scrub. /thread
I have Amarr scout and Assault. Caldari Assault, Minmatar Sentinel and Gallente Logi. GT*O Bruh... :3
Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.12.01 18:47:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Too much armor. Well not really is the amarr is the antiscout so perfect not too much. AFter you SNIPED ME That last time i kind of had to put some more HP on it....Remember my 200k+ suit i QQ about?? this was it XD Yeah true. I got you with two HS with my TAC. And people say sniping is dead why? Dont worry leave me be and i wont put a charged shot through your head. My prototype stormtrooper would look awesome with my sniper rifles.
I thought it had been only 1...hmmm... i felt only one....
Even your bullets are sneaky XD
ANYHOW, if it wasnt for you...i was seriously damaging your team with this fit.(plus all the scans) Most of my kills were actually scouts trying to get to me from behind XD
Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.12.01 18:56:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:I want to say +1 to the flaylock but lolLock.
I would probably switch to a compact nanohive because for emergency armor repair if needed, and try to fit a better side arm.
Also you are a scout, once you are at half your ammo supply you can start looking for a depot or a hive. You are fast enough to get anywhere quickly. An additional source of reps is much more valuable imo.
If you have someone on you squad dedicated to scanning, I would switch the scanner to remote explosives.
Well. Flaylock is just the way i got used to dealing with scouts. Since i couldnt hit confirm cal scouts at all, i started using the splash damage as a viable way to deal with them. And now its...just one of the sidearms i use the most next to the bolt pistol.
The reason i have so much armor and so little rep is that i really dont plan on being surprised with this fit. The objective is, as a good RR user, to get on an advantageous position where i can easily abuse the range of my rail rifle and attack enemy infantry. While doing this i provide scans for my whole team, and i KNOW i wont be easily attacked from behind.
I understand the Compact nanos, but Mr John Ripper, RAIL RIFLES are powerful weapons but consume a LOT of ammo , or at least thats how it feels since the max ammo capacity is pretty low. I understand the ''once you are at half your ammo supply you can start looking for a depot or a hive'' But i would really prefer not to leave the confort of my elevated position to go search for ammo.
Regarding the scans, i play solo 98% of the time so i cannot rely on blue dots to scan for the team.
Well. At least this is my reasoning. Ty for the input thou n.n
Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.12.01 19:06:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Lol. Thus scout scrub thinks he needs to equip modules to his scout suit to be competitive. Just don't equip modules loser, you'll still destroy anyone that isn't another scout, and won't have to pay much for your suit.
So you are either a Heavy that gets remoted way too often or a salty MED frame user. Either way your post is not considered productive by me.
thanks for trying thou.
Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2014.12.01 19:28:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:
I like to use precision weapons. I also like to play drunk so muscle memory matters, lol can't have the flaylock messing up my aim. Also if you are a long distance fighter then wouldnt the flaylock be a bad choice for that role? Also the flaylock is also poor with ammo, combined with a primary weapon that is also bad with ammo....
Also I don't like that fit because I wouldn't want to be locked into one role and fighting from a distance the entire time. If I see an opportunity to take a point, I want to be able to go in and take it with confidence. Flaylock and lack of nano reps does not give me that confidence. With minor changes, I can still fight long range but also be confident in close quarters. Also if you really do want to be primarily long range then you can sacrifice some armor module for better nanohives if ammo is that big of an issue. If you don't plan on anyone getting the jump on you then you should be fine.
-Flaylock IS poor with ammo. NExt to the RR, the reason i use Nanohives and not Compact ones. -I...do not fight from a distance a whole game. I use my RR at CQ a LOT too. I just prefer picking on people when they cant fight back...hehehe -i am VERY confident at Close quarters! I spray and pray with my RR and after shields are down i use my flaylock ,which is surprisingly powerful at CQ environments n.n
I will take your advice and maybe replace a cx armor plate for ENH armor plate and have better nanos.
Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.12.01 19:31:00 -
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I appreciate a lot (most) the comments, but please consider my style is hardly the one of a scout. And even if a do like moving fast, if im on an elevated position and get 1HKO'd by snipers ,being fast and having reps wont save me.
Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.12.01 19:32:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Amarr without a ScR, you should be ashamed of yourself.
I use SCR with my Ak.0 Assault.
This fit is for a different purpose entirely. Plus there is nothing wrong using some allied tech now and then.... (the flaylock pistol was left in the room where my slave used to live...u.u until he was abducted my the republic...TT..TT)
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2014.12.01 19:59:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:It's bad.
1 Precision ehn is worthless. You won't scan most scouts and even if you could, your range is only 30m.
Too slow, esp. for a scout. I wouldn't use complex armor on any suit but a sentinel personally; I find enh give a better hp with lower penalties and fitting.
Rail and FL are meh weapons and don't really mesh well together.
AV grenade? Flux would be more useful, especially with a FL sidearm.
You'd probably be better off using an ADV scanner (since you won't be scanning scouts anyway) and upgrading your nanohive.
It looks like you're trying to do everything and thus making a mediocre suit. Focus on a few things and try to work from that. As far as counter-scouting goes, use complex precision mods, damps, and a ScR and SMG.
HAHAHA my fit is classified as BAD. ok ok. lets see what we got here:
1 Prec is NOT worthless. I have 21 db, and MOST scouts dont even run ONE complex profile dampener. THey just FerroTank the S*** out of them. IF i see that the enemy is using lots of scouts i just replace the SHield Ext for ANOTHER Prec enhancer that drops it down to 17 db. My Range is 30mts only? What you are going to THROW the Nova knifes? Spray me with your SG at 30+mts? XD hahaha you funny.
Too slow is not a problem. This is a stationary fit. Also, with 370+ stamina i wouldnt say im IMMOBILE, just slightly slow.
On my weapons, i wont comment. I like them . (and be thankful im not running around with my Viziam XD)
ADV SCANNERS? How... how low do you think Scouts run their scan profile? Because last time i checked between my passive scan and my Active scanner the only thing that i cant scan are GAl/CAl scouts cloaked with 2 cx dampeners. The only things that can kill me while im on an elevated position are snipers, Heavies jumping out of DS (eeewww), or ADS, Or RAil turrets, or maybe, a VERY proficient SCR or RR user...
And if you have enough dampening to avoid both my 28db A.scanner and my 17db PAssive scanning you, not only deserve to (try) kill me but wou will be a little gimped, with no more than 400HP. and you would STILL need to avoid my line of sight.
You said:''It looks like you're trying to do everything and thus making a mediocre suit. Focus on a few things and try to work from that. As far as counter-scouting goes, use complex precision mods, damps, and a ScR and SMG'' MAybe you are right. I will Drop the profile dampener and add another armor plate. XD The reason i dont use the SCR unless im runing my ak.0 assault, is that since scouts sometimes seem to have an amazingly small hitbox and if i start missing shots i dont want my main weapon to overheat. SMG's are way to FOTM and i dont like using FOTM crap. Main reason i left the Breach assault rifle behind in 1.9....
Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
5998
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Posted - 2014.12.01 20:07:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Amarr without a ScR, you should be ashamed of yourself. I use SCR with my Ak.0 Assault. This fit is for a different purpose entirely. Plus there is nothing wrong using some allied tech now and then.... (t he flaylock pistol was left in the room where my slave used to live...u.u until he was abducted my the republic...TT..TT) Try assault ScR on scout, you will be surprised how good it is.
WILL do. :3
Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.12.01 20:09:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Amarr without a ScR, you should be ashamed of yourself. I use SCR with my Ak.0 Assault. This fit is for a different purpose entirely. Plus there is nothing wrong using some allied tech now and then.... (t he flaylock pistol was left in the room where my slave used to live...u.u until he was abducted my the republic...TT..TT) Your slave had a weapon and he did not try to use it to assassinate you and free himself because he knew the flaylock sucked.
ITs because, she was like family to me.
Like....a perverted girlfriend who cried too much...
...And because her leash wouldnt let her into my house....
Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.12.01 21:09:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:So....here it is. I've named it: DIVINE SINAlso, notice that depending on the map i might change the Kaalakiota RR for an Assault Ishuk. RR and depending on the amount of scouts, the Shield ext might be replaced for a 2nd Precision enhancer effectively dropping my scan precision down to 17.85db.YEah. DAMP THOSE SCOUTS B***s - Active Scanner is useful when you playing solo, and when you have Cloak, I think you do not need AS on this fit. - STR Nanohive is trash, avoid using it. - As Amarr Scout that have bonus to precision I think you should use 2x Precision Enhancers all the time. - You need 2x Complex Dampener more then armor plate that slows you down. - I would replace replace some tanking module with at least one KinKat. - Using Lai Dai have sens at the beginning of match to destroy MLT LAV, but you are not able to kill anything above that, like HAV, so would replace them with STR flux(it would cooperate with sidearm). Lai Dai's are great when you running around with squad and you have 4-6 of them.
All good advice. Will take into consideration.Specially regarding the flux to go with my Flaylock.
The dampeners is not 100% needed in my case. If i have EHP and KNOW where they are coming from me i dont mind being scanned and persued. The profile dampener i use is to avoid Passive scans from scouts without or with 1 precision enhancer.
Kin cat is a good idea, if im shotgunning. For a rail rifle i dont really need the speed as i will probably be stationary
@ Killer's Coys: I already have an AMarr assault. But i run assault if im witha squad. If im solo, i prefer avoid being backstabbed. So this is my ''Light Assault-Anti scout'' fit.
For everyone saying this is an ASSAULT FIT ,just because im not DAMPENING IT.,
EWAR goes both ways. Both Scanning and dampening. Believe it or not, this IS an Ewar scout.
Saying this fit is an assault is like saying a Sentinel is fitted as a scout just because it runs one or 2 kin cats XD
Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
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