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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.11.29 15:27:00 -
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matchmakeing since the introduction of the "new" Mu system has become even worse.. the amount of one sided matches and protostomping squads has increased an untold multitide of times.
we need to know why this is happening and how we can solve it.. one solution could be stop squads being able to sign up vs non squadded players but this would just illicit butthurt and whine from you bittervets..
If you have any better ideas please do share them
PS. NERF CORE LOCUS GRENADES! even in my advanced suits i get OHK by them doing like 900ish damage :|
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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.11.29 16:32:00 -
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1. remove ability to sign up to pub matches as a squad. 2. if #1 dosnt solve the problem remove the ability to sign up to pub with proto gear
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castba
Rogue Instincts
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Posted - 2014.11.29 16:35:00 -
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You sure do whinge a lot.
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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.11.29 16:50:00 -
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castba wrote:You sure do whinge a lot. you may think so but this is a major problem and a major hurdle which dissuades new players from staying in dust.
besides.. i havnt **** posted in a while.. thought i would fill that quota
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
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Posted - 2014.11.29 17:00:00 -
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Matchmaking is an important issue. Just like google search results, you're going to see tryhards trying to game the Mu system. They will ask for the lowest SP and lowest WP player to lead the squad so they have a better chance to stomp n00bs. I'm sure they have other tricks, like two-boxing an AFKer to swap into the squad lead role. Maybe they will relog between matches in an attempt to reset the Mu. CCP will have to remain constantly vigilant to undercut the shenanigans.
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
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Posted - 2014.11.29 17:14:00 -
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I would just be happy if it stopped spawning me into matches where there's 5% armor left on the MCC. Yesterday I managed to spawn into the same match twice as it was ending.
/c
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Ablerober
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.29 17:24:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:matchmakeing since the introduction of the "new" Mu system has become even worse.. the amount of one sided matches and protostomping squads has increased an untold multitide of times.
we need to know why this is happening and how we can solve it.. one solution could be stop squads being able to sign up vs non squadded players but this would just illicit butthurt and whine from you bittervets..
If you have any better ideas please do share them
PS. NERF CORE LOCUS GRENADES! even in my advanced suits i get OHK by them doing like 900ish damage :|
I have days where I have a string of good matches, then I find myself up against the usual squad of tryhards. If I'm lucky, I'll only meet them once a night.
But you need to be realistic. Mu works (and it does work) if there are enough people playing. Weekends are generally better I find. But how do you maintain this level all through the week. You can't...
I'm all for having games for solo players only but there just aren't enough players.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.11.29 18:33:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:castba wrote:You sure do whinge a lot. you may think so but this is a major problem and a major hurdle which dissuades new players from staying in dust. besides.. i havnt **** posted in a while.. thought i would fill that quota
The problem isn't the matchmaking system that is largely working as intended and what it was built for.
If your concern is the "New Player" In DUST... Matchmaking standard public matches makes absolutely no sense in any further thought.
Trying to have a computer program artificially separate new players from vets and then match them based on that is a fools errands unless your Valve. And Even Valves Matchmaking system is flawed in many ways.
CCP and the New Eden galaxy has always been a place of choices and risk vs reward.
New players need a Militia game mode. heck, all of DUST needs it.
Militia Items need to stop registering players skills, So that everyone can participate and que up for the game mode.
Then when new players join the public matches, they would WANT to buy Standard items and suits atleast so their skills register on the items they are using... Giving everyone more competitive matches in normal pubs.
Militia Game mode doesn't have to give out much ISK reward... new players only need to really buy skill books and stock up some ISK for public matches. Also stops the grinding of the game mode by vets as the time vs reward is limited. But allow a fun game mode for vet's to try out their true skill ability, offering new players some challenging opponents but on a more even playing field so they can get accustomed to DUST, aswell as Vet's getting the challenge of competing in a game mode where Skill points play a new non existent part in the victor.
As far as squads queing for public matches... This is a team based game. We have social tools in this game that don't exist in nearly every other FPS on console. We have Corporations, Friend chat channels, Squad finder, Awesome voice support.. Facing squads and groups of enemies is a Staple of this game.. Trying to make DUST's Public matches into a Solo only ruins most of the very foundation of this game... Most people are here because they have gained friendship in the game.. Not because they need that 50,000th kill. or that extra skill. Competing against Squads of Imperfectz, Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz, UnReal... ETC is what made the current generation of slayers running around DUST... It's part of the learning curve.
Can the beginning of DUST's learning curve be tailored a bit more around new players so they stick around and bring more success to DUST? HELL YEAH, EVERYONE THAT HAS HAD A REAL LIFE FRIEND THEY TRIED TO GET INTO DUST SAYS THAT TO CCP. |
Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.11.29 18:37:00 -
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ChribbaX wrote:I would just be happy if it stopped spawning me into matches where there's 5% armor left on the MCC. Yesterday I managed to spawn into the same match twice as it was ending.
/c yeah they need to add some sort of filter string so if mcc armor is below 50% it wont waste peoples time and win/loss ratio by throwing them onto a nearly finished match
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2014.11.29 18:42:00 -
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ChribbaX wrote:I would just be happy if it stopped spawning me into matches where there's 5% armor left on the MCC. Yesterday I managed to spawn into the same match twice as it was ending.
/c Every first match I get into is like that.
After that one, I get one into a 50% armor left.
Then, 50% shields left.
THEN, I start getting into early matches. Oh, yeah. They're all on the losing side, by the way. |
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.11.29 18:46:00 -
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Ablerober wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:matchmakeing since the introduction of the "new" Mu system has become even worse.. the amount of one sided matches and protostomping squads has increased an untold multitide of times.
we need to know why this is happening and how we can solve it.. one solution could be stop squads being able to sign up vs non squadded players but this would just illicit butthurt and whine from you bittervets..
If you have any better ideas please do share them
PS. NERF CORE LOCUS GRENADES! even in my advanced suits i get OHK by them doing like 900ish damage :| I have days where I have a string of good matches, then I find myself up against the usual squad of tryhards. If I'm lucky, I'll only meet them once a night. But you need to be realistic. Mu works (and it does work) if there are enough people playing. Weekends are generally better I find. But how do you maintain this level all through the week. You can't... I'm all for having games for solo players only but there just aren't enough players. if mu works i must be godlike then.. cause i usually signup solo and run standard gear most of the time.. and since 1.9 iv been nowhere near the WP i used to pull, more so with needle usage change.. and my KD is 1.07 and W/L is 1.17.. so Mu must be screwing me or im better then i think i am.
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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.11.29 18:50:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:ChribbaX wrote:I would just be happy if it stopped spawning me into matches where there's 5% armor left on the MCC. Yesterday I managed to spawn into the same match twice as it was ending.
/c Every first match I get into is like that. After that one, I get one into a 50% armor left. Then, 50% shields left. THEN, I start getting into early matches. Oh, yeah. They're all on the losing side, by the way. well the one time i saw you in the same match as me you wernt doing so well j/k (just average)..
but yeah these one sided matches are just not fun as it turns into spawn and then die with in 10 seconds because of scout and/or sentinel camping the cru/uplink.. spawn different location.. run back try to make a safe spawn for my bros on the team and i get cockblocked by a goddamn scout again..
and this cycle is just infuriating and gets 10x worse on fri/sat/sun and most of the time i just dont bother to play unless its maybe FW and even then its like 1 FW match every hour or more i manage to get into.
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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.11.29 18:52:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:castba wrote:You sure do whinge a lot. you may think so but this is a major problem and a major hurdle which dissuades new players from staying in dust. besides.. i havnt **** posted in a while.. thought i would fill that quota The problem isn't the matchmaking system that is largely working as intended and what it was built for. If your concern is the "New Player" In DUST... Matchmaking standard public matches makes absolutely no sense in any further thought. Trying to have a computer program artificially separate new players from vets and then match them based on that is a fools errands unless your Valve. And Even Valves Matchmaking system is flawed in many ways. CCP and the New Eden galaxy has always been a place of choices and risk vs reward. New players need a Militia game mode. heck, all of DUST needs it. Militia Items need to stop registering players skills, So that everyone can participate and que up for the game mode. Then when new players join the public matches, they would WANT to buy Standard items and suits atleast so their skills register on the items they are using... Giving everyone more competitive matches in normal pubs. Militia Game mode doesn't have to give out much ISK reward... new players only need to really buy skill books and stock up some ISK for public matches. Also stops the grinding of the game mode by vets as the time vs reward is limited. But allow a fun game mode for vet's to try out their true skill ability, offering new players some challenging opponents but on a more even playing field so they can get accustomed to DUST, aswell as Vet's getting the challenge of competing in a game mode where Skill points play a new non existent part in the victor. As far as squads queing for public matches... This is a team based game. We have social tools in this game that don't exist in nearly every other FPS on console. We have Corporations, Friend chat channels, Squad finder, Awesome voice support.. Facing squads and groups of enemies is a Staple of this game.. Trying to make DUST's Public matches into a Solo only ruins most of the very foundation of this game... Most people are here because they have gained friendship in the game.. Not because they need that 50,000th kill. or that extra skill. Competing against Squads of Imperfectz, Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz, UnReal... ETC is what made the current generation of slayers running around DUST... It's part of the learning curve. Can the beginning of DUST's learning curve be tailored a bit more around new players so they stick around and bring more success to DUST? HELL YEAH, EVERYONE THAT HAS HAD A REAL LIFE FRIEND THEY TRIED TO GET INTO DUST SAYS THAT TO CCP. it makes perfect sence..its so newbros or low sp players dont get thrust against protobears and squads looking to pad their K/d and strong their epeens while their ego swells.
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da GAND
Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.11.29 20:32:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:1. remove ability to sign up to pub matches as a squad. 2. if #1 dosnt solve the problem remove the ability to sign up to pub with proto gear
Those two ideas aren't something I would mind see CCP try out at all, I'm not too sure about removing squads from being in pub matches but it's not a problem for me cuz I don't try to go with squads anymore since the last corp I was in was dismantled. I've wanted them to keep proto gear out of pubs for alonggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg time.
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