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Stevez Wingyip Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2014.11.28 06:43:00 - [1] - Quote Getting so annoyed with this things. Considering taking a break from dust until they are ******* sorted because they are the most frustrating thing I have ever dealt with in a video game. -.- As a heavy, I cannot scan them and even with flux grenades, I have seen times where my team has scanned and there are about 15 surrounding an objective. Ugh. So annoying. Rant over.
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1021	Posted - 2014.11.28 06:45:00 - [2] - Quote I love when they are 20 miles glitched beneath the null cannon in which the hacking console is attached too and my locus grenades do nothing to it. CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou CIO ("Proto Forum Warrior") Learning Coalition & RTG
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2324	Posted - 2014.11.28 06:51:00 - [3] - Quote if only 90% of your deaths are from remotes then not enough things can kill you. remotes now suffer from the same delay as the cloak field except unlike the cloak it actually works and is very debilitating meaning the user is a sitting duck for damn near 4 seconds. get good Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Stevez Wingyip Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2014.11.28 06:57:00 - [4] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: if only 90% of your deaths are from remotes then not enough things can kill you. remotes now suffer from the same delay as the cloak field except unlike the cloak it actually works and is very debilitating meaning the user is a sitting duck for damn near 4 seconds. get good Poor feedback. One is not the problem. It's when there are 15 around and I spend more time looking for the damn things than capping objectives. And there is always one that I miss. I am aware of how to handle them but there are just far too many.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2324	Posted - 2014.11.28 07:04:00 - [5] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: if only 90% of your deaths are from remotes then not enough things can kill you. remotes now suffer from the same delay as the cloak field except unlike the cloak it actually works and is very debilitating meaning the user is a sitting duck for damn near 4 seconds. get good Poor feedback. One is not the problem. It's when there are 15 around and I spend more time looking for the damn things than capping objectives. And there is always one that I miss. I am aware of how to handle them but there are just far too many. thats just good defence, do you know how long it takes to setup something like that? and THEN to detonate each set and manage a kill? basterd spend MINUITES untouched to set up that minefield and it all went poof in seconds just to kill you. speaking as a user of minefields, its a one trick pony and a one hit wonder, you blow your load and its done. and its prohibitive to use in any situation under fire with means they had that base for a LONG time. dont expect it to be easy to unroot the enemy if you give them that much prep time. basically your death is more efficiant at getting rid of remotes then hunting them at that point... you should of just tryed to hack the objective int he first place with a mate ready to come in for the hack after the remotes detonate. Valid tactic and because of setup time and ESPECIALLY concidering the nerf its perrfectly balanced, suck it up. i get it, nto many people play defence in this game prefering instead to circle zerrg. welcome to the world of entrenched defencive stratagy. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Stevez Wingyip Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2014.11.28 07:09:00 - [6] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: if only 90% of your deaths are from remotes then not enough things can kill you. remotes now suffer from the same delay as the cloak field except unlike the cloak it actually works and is very debilitating meaning the user is a sitting duck for damn near 4 seconds. get good Poor feedback. One is not the problem. It's when there are 15 around and I spend more time looking for the damn things than capping objectives. And there is always one that I miss. I am aware of how to handle them but there are just far too many. thats just good defence, do you know how long it takes to setup something like that? and THEN to detonate each set and manage a kill? basterd spend MINUITES untouched to set up that minefield and it all went poof in seconds just to kill you. speaking as a user of minefields, its a one trick pony and a one hit wonder, you blow your load and its done. and its prohibitive to use in any situation under fire with means they had that base for a LONG time. dont expect it to be easy to unroot the enemy if you give them that much prep time. basically your death is more efficiant at getting rid of remotes then hunting them at that point... you should of just tryed to hack the objective int he first place with a mate ready to come in for the hack after the remotes detonate. Valid tactic and because of setup time and ESPECIALLY concidering the nerf its perrfectly balanced, suck it up. i get it, nto many people play defence in this game prefering instead to circle zerrg. welcome to the world of entrenched defencive stratagy. I would take your "criticism" a lot better if you were not so rude. And all my friends have quit this game long ago, I have to play solo. I have tried getting on mic with people but I have encountered the strangest things there. I'd rather not go into details.
D4GG3R Fatal Absolution 590	Posted - 2014.11.28 07:11:00 - [7] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: I love when they are 20 miles glitched beneath the null cannon in which the hacking console is attached too and my locus grenades do nothing to it. Gross you should be using a flux I'm pretty plain. I watch anime for the boobs
D4GG3R Fatal Absolution 590	Posted - 2014.11.28 07:14:00 - [8] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: if only 90% of your deaths are from remotes then not enough things can kill you. remotes now suffer from the same delay as the cloak field except unlike the cloak it actually works and is very debilitating meaning the user is a sitting duck for damn near 4 seconds. get good Poor feedback. One is not the problem. It's when there are 15 around and I spend more time looking for the damn things than capping objectives. And there is always one that I miss. I am aware of how to handle them but there are just far too many. thats just good defence, do you know how long it takes to setup something like that? and THEN to detonate each set and manage a kill? basterd spend MINUITES untouched to set up that minefield and it all went poof in seconds just to kill you. speaking as a user of minefields, its a one trick pony and a one hit wonder, you blow your load and its done. and its prohibitive to use in any situation under fire with means they had that base for a LONG time. dont expect it to be easy to unroot the enemy if you give them that much prep time. basically your death is more efficiant at getting rid of remotes then hunting them at that point... you should of just tryed to hack the objective int he first place with a mate ready to come in for the hack after the remotes detonate. Valid tactic and because of setup time and ESPECIALLY concidering the nerf its perrfectly balanced, suck it up. i get it, nto many people play defence in this game prefering instead to circle zerrg. welcome to the world of entrenched defencive stratagy. I would take your "criticism" a lot better if you were not so rude. And all my friends have quit this game long ago, I have to play solo. I have tried getting on mic with people but I have encountered the strangest things there. I'd rather not go into details. Join the Exemplars! They are friendly:) I'm pretty plain. I watch anime for the boobs
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2324	Posted - 2014.11.28 07:16:00 - [9] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: if only 90% of your deaths are from remotes then not enough things can kill you. remotes now suffer from the same delay as the cloak field except unlike the cloak it actually works and is very debilitating meaning the user is a sitting duck for damn near 4 seconds. get good Poor feedback. One is not the problem. It's when there are 15 around and I spend more time looking for the damn things than capping objectives. And there is always one that I miss. I am aware of how to handle them but there are just far too many. thats just good defence, do you know how long it takes to setup something like that? and THEN to detonate each set and manage a kill? basterd spend MINUITES untouched to set up that minefield and it all went poof in seconds just to kill you. speaking as a user of minefields, its a one trick pony and a one hit wonder, you blow your load and its done. and its prohibitive to use in any situation under fire with means they had that base for a LONG time. dont expect it to be easy to unroot the enemy if you give them that much prep time. basically your death is more efficiant at getting rid of remotes then hunting them at that point... you should of just tryed to hack the objective int he first place with a mate ready to come in for the hack after the remotes detonate. Valid tactic and because of setup time and ESPECIALLY concidering the nerf its perrfectly balanced, suck it up. i get it, nto many people play defence in this game prefering instead to circle zerrg. welcome to the world of entrenched defencive stratagy. I would take your "criticism" a lot better if you were not so rude. And all my friends have quit this game long ago, I have to play solo. I have tried getting on mic with people but I have encountered the strangest things there. I'd rather not go into details. my apologies for my "rudeness" i just hate the "if it kills me and i cant think of a way to deal with it then its OP and needs nerfed" mentality that runs rampant, there are so many counters its not even funny, so much so that its not a valid stratagy in PC play (remotes cant really be used at all inn PC anymore) remotes dont need to be "sorted" they need the bug that grants them the decloak cooldown removed to return to a valid standing Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 8303	Posted - 2014.11.28 07:18:00 - [10] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Getting so annoyed with this things. Considering taking a break from dust until they are ******* sorted because they are the most frustrating thing I have ever dealt with in a video game. -.- As a heavy, I cannot scan them and even with flux grenades, I have seen times where my team has scanned and there are about 15 surrounding an objective. Ugh. So annoying. Rant over. Don't take a point without a squad. Use blueberries as RE bait. Wait for them to hack the point first. So what? You only get an assist. IDGAF, it's better than a possible death. Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in! FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.

D4GG3R Fatal Absolution 591	Posted - 2014.11.28 07:20:00 - [11] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: (remotes cant really be used at all inn PC anymore) Lol wrong. Remote explosives are practically a primary weapon in competitive PC. I'm pretty plain. I watch anime for the boobs
Stevez Wingyip Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2014.11.28 07:20:00 - [12] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: if only 90% of your deaths are from remotes then not enough things can kill you. remotes now suffer from the same delay as the cloak field except unlike the cloak it actually works and is very debilitating meaning the user is a sitting duck for damn near 4 seconds. get good Poor feedback. One is not the problem. It's when there are 15 around and I spend more time looking for the damn things than capping objectives. And there is always one that I miss. I am aware of how to handle them but there are just far too many. thats just good defence, do you know how long it takes to setup something like that? and THEN to detonate each set and manage a kill? basterd spend MINUITES untouched to set up that minefield and it all went poof in seconds just to kill you. speaking as a user of minefields, its a one trick pony and a one hit wonder, you blow your load and its done. and its prohibitive to use in any situation under fire with means they had that base for a LONG time. dont expect it to be easy to unroot the enemy if you give them that much prep time. basically your death is more efficiant at getting rid of remotes then hunting them at that point... you should of just tryed to hack the objective int he first place with a mate ready to come in for the hack after the remotes detonate. Valid tactic and because of setup time and ESPECIALLY concidering the nerf its perrfectly balanced, suck it up. i get it, nto many people play defence in this game prefering instead to circle zerrg. welcome to the world of entrenched defencive stratagy. I would take your "criticism" a lot better if you were not so rude. And all my friends have quit this game long ago, I have to play solo. I have tried getting on mic with people but I have encountered the strangest things there. I'd rather not go into details. my apologies for my "rudeness" i just hate the "if it kills me and i cant think of a way to deal with it then its OP and needs nerfed" mentality that runs rampant, there are so many counters its not even funny, so much so that its not a valid stratagy in PC play (remotes cant really be used at all inn PC anymore) remotes dont need to be "sorted" they need the bug that grants them the decloak cooldown removed to return to a valid standing I should state that I don't literally think they are OP. It was a rant after all. I just needed to vent the frustration because I know the DUST community is generally very helpful and I take take every single thing you said on board :)
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2324	Posted - 2014.11.28 07:22:00 - [13] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: (remotes cant really be used at all inn PC anymore) Lol wrong. Remote explosives are practically a primary wea pond in competitive PC. amature, i mean advanced RE tactics not your basic bread and butter toos and boom. point of note, if you dont have more than 1 set of remotes on your suit, your not using advanced tactics. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1025	Posted - 2014.11.28 07:33:00 - [14] - Quote D4GG3R wrote: Kaze Eyrou wrote: I love when they are 20 miles glitched beneath the null cannon in which the hacking console is attached too and my locus grenades do nothing to it. Gross you should be using a flux Why do you think I have the Militia Flux Grenade Blueprint? I say Locus Grenade because I am stuck with the 'Haze' Locus Grenades on my Min 'Shaman' Logi suit. If it were just ONE thing I would change, it would be to change 'Haze' to the 'Siren'. CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou CIO ("Proto Forum Warrior") Learning Coalition & RTG
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2174	Posted - 2014.11.28 10:46:00 - [15] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Getting so annoyed with this things. Considering taking a break from dust until they are ***** sorted because they are the most frustrating thing I have ever dealt with in a video game. -.- As a heavy, I cannot scan them and even with flux grenades, I have seen times where my team has scanned and there are about 15 surrounding an objective. Ugh. So annoying. Rant over. simple solution.. save yoru flux nades for when you go to cap a point.. 1. arrive at cap point. 2. flux cap point. 3. cap the point. 4.???? 5. profit! #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]**
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 765	Posted - 2014.11.28 11:49:00 - [16] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: if only 90% of your deaths are from remotes then not enough things can kill you. remotes now suffer from the same delay as the cloak field except unlike the cloak it actually works and is very debilitating meaning the user is a sitting duck for damn near 4 seconds. get good Poor feedback. One is not the problem. It's when there are 15 around and I spend more time looking for the damn things than capping objectives. And there is always one that I miss. I am aware of how to handle them but there are just far too many. 1. EQ Bandwidth (coming soon) will likely resolve any occurrences of 15 REs / objective. 2. If 90% of your deaths are to REs, then whatever you're running is quite possibly broken.
jade gamester B.A.L.A.M.O.R.Y. G.L.O.R.Y. 39	Posted - 2014.11.28 12:00:00 - [17] - Quote Re's are two easy to use! The cloak thing doesn't effect re's as most of them just run damps and speed on a cheap or free suit and go suicidal... I have been in one vs ones where a Caldari scout throws an re jumps out the way triggers it and ends up taking out a tonne of **** including me? Re's have lost there purpose, and it feels that ccp won't acknowledge them them King of contradiction all hail kingthunderbolt o7
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 1037	Posted - 2014.11.28 13:17:00 - [18] - Quote Rattati, PLEASE hear us!! REs used as grenades! Please, STOP it! Please support fair play!
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2326	Posted - 2014.11.28 13:31:00 - [19] - Quote John Psi wrote: Rattati, PLEASE hear us!! REs used as grenades! Please, STOP it! he did, they now suffer from the same delay as the cloak Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Middas Betancore Fatal Absolution 198	Posted - 2014.11.28 13:39:00 - [20] - Quote RE's...always such a frakker It makes me think of WW2 games that have "satchel charges", small bags of demolitions that are thrown at hardened defensive positions and enemy armour It appears to be a valid element of dusts gameplay, being able to run into an area and throw charges seems perfectly plausible Using them as defensive traps seems to be working fine, it's the "banzai" attacks that cause the most frustration, a 5k scout runs in. "BAAANNNZZAAAAAIII!!!" Boom, 4 protos dead.... One can argue,"get good", cover ur arcs, stay vigilant etc, if he/she can run in and remote u, they could easily knife you or shotgun you But without a doubt, "suicide bombing" with remotes IS easy and cheap Should it remain that way? Re's should be more expensive? Hardly a remedy The charge should have an arming switch that has to be triggered AND sets an audio cue upon arming? Gives more time and warning, without completely removing its usefulness RE'S can only be placed, not thrown? Possibly, but time consuming to implement Some thoughts on RE's I can almost never bring myself to stoop that low... Only to put on an LAV to bust a redline tank "Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted

John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 1038	Posted - 2014.11.28 13:50:00 - [21] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: he did, they now suffer from the same delay as the cloak M8,this is not enough. Any weapons in the first second after decloak - 700 dps max (excluding PC) RE - 1,5k splash. Please support fair play!
Ryme Intrinseca Dead Man's Game RUST415 2093	Posted - 2014.11.28 14:13:00 - [22] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: if only 90% of your deaths are from remotes then not enough things can kill you. remotes now suffer from the same delay as the cloak field except unlike the cloak it actually works and is very debilitating meaning the user is a sitting duck for damn near 4 seconds. get good Poor feedback. One is not the problem. It's when there are 15 around and I spend more time looking for the damn things than capping objectives. And there is always one that I miss. I am aware of how to handle them but there are just far too many. thats just good defence, do you know how long it takes to setup something like that? and THEN to detonate each set and manage a kill? basterd spend MINUITES untouched to set up that minefield and it all went poof in seconds just to kill you. speaking as a user of minefields, its a one trick pony and a one hit wonder, you blow your load and its done. and its prohibitive to use in any situation under fire with means they had that base for a LONG time. dont expect it to be easy to unroot the enemy if you give them that much prep time. basically your death is more efficiant at getting rid of remotes then hunting them at that point... you should of just tryed to hack the objective int he first place with a mate ready to come in for the hack after the remotes detonate. Valid tactic and because of setup time and ESPECIALLY concidering the nerf its perrfectly balanced, suck it up. i get it, nto many people play defence in this game prefering instead to circle zerrg. welcome to the world of entrenched defencive stratagy. I would take your "criticism" a lot better if you were not so rude. And all my friends have quit this game long ago, I have to play solo. I have tried getting on mic with people but I have encountered the strangest things there. I'd rather not go into details. This has LHughes' fingerprints all over it...
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 5962	Posted - 2014.11.28 14:26:00 - [23] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Getting so annoyed with this things. Considering taking a break from dust until they are ******* sorted because they are the most frustrating thing I have ever dealt with in a video game. -.- As a heavy I read all the way up to AS A HEAVY. GTO out of here bro XD Heavies just hate the (few) things that can kill them. The best Damage mod* is a HEADSHOT....
Mejt0 Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap 534	Posted - 2014.11.28 15:10:00 - [24] - Quote Firstly, anwser to these questions : - what should i do (without RE) when 5 tanked a***oles are camping in a building? - what should i do when heavy/assault/group of players chase after me (won't run away enough fast)? - what should i do when i'm behind group of players and they didn't scan/spot me? Just learn : don't chase someone, without thinking about posible RE on the ground. And don't use your fluxes to fight with players (if you don't have nanohive). Fluxes are better for clearing eqiupments. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1175	Posted - 2014.11.28 15:20:00 - [25] - Quote Actually this is the one good thing that is coming from the stupid bandwidth addition to equipment. No more spamming REs and no more dropping their self a hive for unlimited REs. INB4 RE spamming logis.
DDx77 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 34	Posted - 2014.11.28 16:00:00 - [26] - Quote Hahahahaha a HEAVY complaining that 90% of his deaths ( read almost never dies ) are from RE's Listen piggie, roughly 90% of people who don't play easy mode die from the HMG When people talk about why this game sucks, they are talking about YOU Here's wishing many more RE deaths upon you suck bag
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5183	Posted - 2014.11.28 16:08:00 - [27] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Getting so annoyed with this things. Considering taking a break from dust until they are ******* sorted because they are the most frustrating thing I have ever dealt with in a video game. -.- As a heavy, I cannot scan them and even with flux grenades, I have seen times where my team has scanned and there are about 15 surrounding an objective. Ugh. So annoying. Rant over. As a Sentinel I equip Flux Grenades for clearing Objectives, and keep my eye peeled to spot remotes the rest of the time. I stand more than 5m away and use my sidearm to take out remotes. If I suspect the person I am chasing has remotes I try to avoid being where he thinks I will be, including going wide around corners, and sometime switching to intercept at another location rather than following right behind. I still die to remotes occasionally, but I die to other weapons a lot more often than Remotes. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 4821	Posted - 2014.11.28 16:10:00 - [28] - Quote Lol heavies.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5185	Posted - 2014.11.28 16:12:00 - [29] - Quote DDx77 wrote: Hahahahaha a HEAVY complaining that 90% of his deaths ( read almost never dies ) are from RE's Listen piggie, roughly 90% of people who don't play easy mode die from the HMG When people talk about why this game sucks, they are talking about YOU Here's wishing many more RE deaths upon you suck bag The dedicated Sentinels, the ones that played Sentinel in the old days before the 1.8 HMG buff which made it easy mode, are working on coming up with a better way to balance the class. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
al nize mk2 No Skillz inc. 210	Posted - 2014.11.28 16:19:00 - [30] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Getting so annoyed with this things. Considering taking a break from dust until they are ******* sorted because they are the most frustrating thing I have ever dealt with in a video game. -.- As a heavy, I cannot scan them and even with flux grenades, I have seen times where my team has scanned and there are about 15 surrounding an objective. Ugh. So annoying. Rant over. remotes are valid in my view - I'd love to know what your kdr is. you realise the average assault or scout is something around the 1 mark. heavies its probably 5 times 10 times that. re's are something that works against heavies - something has to. GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥



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