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Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 140	Posted - 2014.11.27 14:11:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Gameplay over lore really, I just want Sentinels to have a weakness so that an Assault can stand a chance by headshotting. Right now, the Sentinel wins 99% of the time. Using a mass calculation (substituting HP for mass), the sentinel simply moves to fast comparative to other frames. Without hurting those that don't armor stack and also making it a chore to play heavies, this was my proposal. Extenders were thrown into the mix because of the HP=Mass idea. I still don't understand the hubbub, obviously it would be less than plates, and similar as reactives as they give similar HP. 1. This is why parts of the game are broken and continue to be still messed up, lore is working in New Eden and frankly if DUST is to be in New Eden then some if not all the main parts have to follow 2. Skills - Not lore but New Eden, every ship, gun, module, rig comes with skills which offer a bonus per level aswell as more unlockables and if some books do not offer a bonus per level its because it is assigned directly to the ship itself so training that skill offers a bonus anyways. In comparision to DUST its chalk and cheese in what is availible to mercs and its even less for pilots 3. Vehicles - So far from New Eden as you can get 3a. Capacitors - Again in New Eden only can hope that they are in Legion and with capacitors comes balance and more variety in fits and playstyles along with unique modules and more skills 3b. Armor - In EVE and in DUST (for a time) armor reppers are active, now they are passive 3c. Shield - Adding more shield HP does not give you more passive shield regen like in EVE 3d. Shield - Adding more shield extenders does not increase your sig profile 3e. Shield - Passive regen in EVE is continous, in DUST it is not so passive shield tanking is not a viable option 3f. Modules - Apart from the lack of variety in modules there is also a lack of varients which had reduced PG/CPU requirements which also had other reduced stats but it could mean you could squeeze out enough CPU to fit something else 3g. Vehicles - PG/CPU starved, In EVE i have no problem fitting up with T2 mods, in DUST on my infantry suit i rarely have a problem with enchanced mods for an enhanced suit but it seems for vehicles i have to generally put in a CPU/PG mod or leave some slots empty like on the Madrugar which is the worst offender 3h. Vehicles - Will we get advanced/proto vehicles? Right now we do have nothing, no varients, no specalized vehicles no chance to upgrade that HAV skill to 3 or 5 and get something new with a worthwhile skill bonus while i sit in my PROTO SENTINAL with PROTO HMG and PROTO MODULES with LEVEL 5 INFANTRY SKILLS which offer more than whats in a pilots skill tree 4. Infantry 4a. Shield - Adding shield extenders does not increase sig profile 4b. Ive run out for infantry you are already the chosen ones
Mobius Wyvern Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 5454	Posted - 2014.11.27 18:37:00 - [2] - Quote Lazer Fo Cused wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Gameplay over lore really, I just want Sentinels to have a weakness so that an Assault can stand a chance by headshotting. Right now, the Sentinel wins 99% of the time. Using a mass calculation (substituting HP for mass), the sentinel simply moves to fast comparative to other frames. Without hurting those that don't armor stack and also making it a chore to play heavies, this was my proposal. Extenders were thrown into the mix because of the HP=Mass idea. I still don't understand the hubbub, obviously it would be less than plates, and similar as reactives as they give similar HP. 1. This is why parts of the game are broken and continue to be still messed up, lore is working in New Eden and frankly if DUST is to be in New Eden then some if not all the main parts have to follow 2. Skills - Not lore but New Eden, every ship, gun, module, rig comes with skills which offer a bonus per level aswell as more unlockables and if some books do not offer a bonus per level its because it is assigned directly to the ship itself so training that skill offers a bonus anyways. In comparision to DUST its chalk and cheese in what is availible to mercs and its even less for pilots 3. Vehicles - So far from New Eden as you can get 3a. Capacitors - Again in New Eden only can hope that they are in Legion and with capacitors comes balance and more variety in fits and playstyles along with unique modules and more skills 3b. Armor - In EVE and in DUST (for a time) armor reppers are active, now they are passive 3c. Shield - Adding more shield HP does not give you more passive shield regen like in EVE 3d. Shield - Adding more shield extenders does not increase your sig profile 3e. Shield - Passive regen in EVE is continous, in DUST it is not so passive shield tanking is not a viable option 3f. Modules - Apart from the lack of variety in modules there is also a lack of varients which had reduced PG/CPU requirements which also had other reduced stats but it could mean you could squeeze out enough CPU to fit something else 3g. Vehicles - PG/CPU starved, In EVE i have no problem fitting up with T2 mods, in DUST on my infantry suit i rarely have a problem with enchanced mods for an enhanced suit but it seems for vehicles i have to generally put in a CPU/PG mod or leave some slots empty like on the Madrugar which is the worst offender 3h. Vehicles - Will we get advanced/proto vehicles? Right now we do have nothing, no varients, no specalized vehicles no chance to upgrade that HAV skill to 3 or 5 and get something new with a worthwhile skill bonus while i sit in my PROTO SENTINAL with PROTO HMG and PROTO MODULES with LEVEL 5 INFANTRY SKILLS which offer more than whats in a pilots skill tree 4. Infantry 4a. Shield - Adding shield extenders does not increase sig profile 4b. Ive run out for infantry you are already the chosen ones I want to make sure to comment on 3h. What would be a very big helper to game balance overall would be the removal of tiers in Dropsuits, and the last thing we need is to add in tier-based power-creep via ADV and PRO vehicles. Specialist vehicles are a completely different matter, however. Personally, I think Marauders that are excellent at defense and Enforcers that are glass cannons would be an excellent addition to the game, as well as bringing back the Logistics Dropship and some other variants we've lost along the way. I like your post overall. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15125	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:03:00 - [3] - Quote Lazer Fo Cused wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Gameplay over lore really, I just want Sentinels to have a weakness so that an Assault can stand a chance by headshotting. Right now, the Sentinel wins 99% of the time. Using a mass calculation (substituting HP for mass), the sentinel simply moves to fast comparative to other frames. Without hurting those that don't armor stack and also making it a chore to play heavies, this was my proposal. Extenders were thrown into the mix because of the HP=Mass idea. I still don't understand the hubbub, obviously it would be less than plates, and similar as reactives as they give similar HP. 1. This is why parts of the game are broken and continue to be still messed up, lore is working in New Eden and frankly if DUST is to be in New Eden then some if not all the main parts have to follow 2. Skills - Not lore but New Eden, every ship, gun, module, rig comes with skills which offer a bonus per level aswell as more unlockables and if some books do not offer a bonus per level its because it is assigned directly to the ship itself so training that skill offers a bonus anyways. In comparision to DUST its chalk and cheese in what is availible to mercs and its even less for pilots 3. Vehicles - So far from New Eden as you can get 3a. Capacitors - Again in New Eden only can hope that they are in Legion and with capacitors comes balance and more variety in fits and playstyles along with unique modules and more skills 3b. Armor - In EVE and in DUST (for a time) armor reppers are active, now they are passive 3c. Shield - Adding more shield HP does not give you more passive shield regen like in EVE 3d. Shield - Adding more shield extenders does not increase your sig profile 3e. Shield - Passive regen in EVE is continous, in DUST it is not so passive shield tanking is not a viable option 3f. Modules - Apart from the lack of variety in modules there is also a lack of varients which had reduced PG/CPU requirements which also had other reduced stats but it could mean you could squeeze out enough CPU to fit something else 3g. Vehicles - PG/CPU starved, In EVE i have no problem fitting up with T2 mods, in DUST on my infantry suit i rarely have a problem with enchanced mods for an enhanced suit but it seems for vehicles i have to generally put in a CPU/PG mod or leave some slots empty like on the Madrugar which is the worst offender 3h. Vehicles - Will we get advanced/proto vehicles? Right now we do have nothing, no varients, no specalized vehicles no chance to upgrade that HAV skill to 3 or 5 and get something new with a worthwhile skill bonus while i sit in my PROTO SENTINAL with PROTO HMG and PROTO MODULES with LEVEL 5 INFANTRY SKILLS which offer more than whats in a pilots skill tree 4. Infantry 4a. Shield - Adding shield extenders does not increase sig profile 4b. Ive run out for infantry you are already the chosen ones Passive shield tanking is Dust 514 is incredibly vehicle..... hell I haven't used a booster in months because passive shield reps after 4 seconds are simply better than armour reps. I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this. Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 141	Posted - 2014.11.28 14:26:00 - [4] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Gameplay over lore really, I just want Sentinels to have a weakness so that an Assault can stand a chance by headshotting. Right now, the Sentinel wins 99% of the time. Using a mass calculation (substituting HP for mass), the sentinel simply moves to fast comparative to other frames. Without hurting those that don't armor stack and also making it a chore to play heavies, this was my proposal. Extenders were thrown into the mix because of the HP=Mass idea. I still don't understand the hubbub, obviously it would be less than plates, and similar as reactives as they give similar HP. 1. This is why parts of the game are broken and continue to be still messed up, lore is working in New Eden and frankly if DUST is to be in New Eden then some if not all the main parts have to follow 2. Skills - Not lore but New Eden, every ship, gun, module, rig comes with skills which offer a bonus per level aswell as more unlockables and if some books do not offer a bonus per level its because it is assigned directly to the ship itself so training that skill offers a bonus anyways. In comparision to DUST its chalk and cheese in what is availible to mercs and its even less for pilots 3. Vehicles - So far from New Eden as you can get 3a. Capacitors - Again in New Eden only can hope that they are in Legion and with capacitors comes balance and more variety in fits and playstyles along with unique modules and more skills 3b. Armor - In EVE and in DUST (for a time) armor reppers are active, now they are passive 3c. Shield - Adding more shield HP does not give you more passive shield regen like in EVE 3d. Shield - Adding more shield extenders does not increase your sig profile 3e. Shield - Passive regen in EVE is continous, in DUST it is not so passive shield tanking is not a viable option 3f. Modules - Apart from the lack of variety in modules there is also a lack of varients which had reduced PG/CPU requirements which also had other reduced stats but it could mean you could squeeze out enough CPU to fit something else 3g. Vehicles - PG/CPU starved, In EVE i have no problem fitting up with T2 mods, in DUST on my infantry suit i rarely have a problem with enchanced mods for an enhanced suit but it seems for vehicles i have to generally put in a CPU/PG mod or leave some slots empty like on the Madrugar which is the worst offender 3h. Vehicles - Will we get advanced/proto vehicles? Right now we do have nothing, no varients, no specalized vehicles no chance to upgrade that HAV skill to 3 or 5 and get something new with a worthwhile skill bonus while i sit in my PROTO SENTINAL with PROTO HMG and PROTO MODULES with LEVEL 5 INFANTRY SKILLS which offer more than whats in a pilots skill tree 4. Infantry 4a. Shield - Adding shield extenders does not increase sig profile 4b. Ive run out for infantry you are already the chosen ones I want to make sure to comment on 3h. What would be a very big helper to game balance overall would be the removal of tiers in Dropsuits, and the last thing we need is to add in tier-based power-creep via ADV and PRO vehicles. Specialist vehicles are a completely different matter, however. Personally, I think Marauders that are excellent at defense and Enforcers that are glass cannons would be an excellent addition to the game, as well as bringing back the Logistics Dropship and some other variants we've lost along the way. I like your post overall. 1. Problem - That would mean infantry either gives up adv/proto dropsuits which i do not see a big following for or vehicle pilots gets adv/proto hulls which infantry vehementaly do not want, either way pilots are stuck with less of everything but more nerfs
Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 141	Posted - 2014.11.28 14:30:00 - [5] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Gameplay over lore really, I just want Sentinels to have a weakness so that an Assault can stand a chance by headshotting. Right now, the Sentinel wins 99% of the time. Using a mass calculation (substituting HP for mass), the sentinel simply moves to fast comparative to other frames. Without hurting those that don't armor stack and also making it a chore to play heavies, this was my proposal. Extenders were thrown into the mix because of the HP=Mass idea. I still don't understand the hubbub, obviously it would be less than plates, and similar as reactives as they give similar HP. 1. This is why parts of the game are broken and continue to be still messed up, lore is working in New Eden and frankly if DUST is to be in New Eden then some if not all the main parts have to follow 2. Skills - Not lore but New Eden, every ship, gun, module, rig comes with skills which offer a bonus per level aswell as more unlockables and if some books do not offer a bonus per level its because it is assigned directly to the ship itself so training that skill offers a bonus anyways. In comparision to DUST its chalk and cheese in what is availible to mercs and its even less for pilots 3. Vehicles - So far from New Eden as you can get 3a. Capacitors - Again in New Eden only can hope that they are in Legion and with capacitors comes balance and more variety in fits and playstyles along with unique modules and more skills 3b. Armor - In EVE and in DUST (for a time) armor reppers are active, now they are passive 3c. Shield - Adding more shield HP does not give you more passive shield regen like in EVE 3d. Shield - Adding more shield extenders does not increase your sig profile 3e. Shield - Passive regen in EVE is continous, in DUST it is not so passive shield tanking is not a viable option 3f. Modules - Apart from the lack of variety in modules there is also a lack of varients which had reduced PG/CPU requirements which also had other reduced stats but it could mean you could squeeze out enough CPU to fit something else 3g. Vehicles - PG/CPU starved, In EVE i have no problem fitting up with T2 mods, in DUST on my infantry suit i rarely have a problem with enchanced mods for an enhanced suit but it seems for vehicles i have to generally put in a CPU/PG mod or leave some slots empty like on the Madrugar which is the worst offender 3h. Vehicles - Will we get advanced/proto vehicles? Right now we do have nothing, no varients, no specalized vehicles no chance to upgrade that HAV skill to 3 or 5 and get something new with a worthwhile skill bonus while i sit in my PROTO SENTINAL with PROTO HMG and PROTO MODULES with LEVEL 5 INFANTRY SKILLS which offer more than whats in a pilots skill tree 4. Infantry 4a. Shield - Adding shield extenders does not increase sig profile 4b. Ive run out for infantry you are already the chosen ones Passive shield tanking is Dust 514 is incredibly viable..... hell I haven't used a booster in months because passive shield reps after 4 seconds are simply better than armour reps. But yeah mechanics are one thing that Rattati likes, lore and vehicles as I understand it are two things that are not on his radar. 1. 4 seconds it feels alot longer, i really do not think a passive tank is worth it, you cannot be aggressive and all it takes is a little hit to stop the regen and you will not rep back up 2. Even a small always passive regen like 50hp/s would help promote a passive tank alot more than it is 3. Lore is apart of New Eden, for DUST to be apart of New Eden it needs to share the same fundamental principles
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2405	Posted - 2014.11.28 15:02:00 - [6] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Gameplay over lore really, I just want Sentinels to have a weakness so that an Assault can stand a chance by headshotting. Right now, the Sentinel wins 99% of the time. Using a mass calculation (substituting HP for mass), the sentinel simply moves to fast comparative to other frames. Without hurting those that don't armor stack and also making it a chore to play heavies, this was my proposal. Extenders were thrown into the mix because of the HP=Mass idea. I still don't understand the hubbub, obviously it would be less than plates, and similar as reactives as they give similar HP. 1. This is why parts of the game are broken and continue to be still messed up, lore is working in New Eden and frankly if DUST is to be in New Eden then some if not all the main parts have to follow 2. Skills - Not lore but New Eden, every ship, gun, module, rig comes with skills which offer a bonus per level aswell as more unlockables and if some books do not offer a bonus per level its because it is assigned directly to the ship itself so training that skill offers a bonus anyways. In comparision to DUST its chalk and cheese in what is availible to mercs and its even less for pilots 3. Vehicles - So far from New Eden as you can get 3a. Capacitors - Again in New Eden only can hope that they are in Legion and with capacitors comes balance and more variety in fits and playstyles along with unique modules and more skills 3b. Armor - In EVE and in DUST (for a time) armor reppers are active, now they are passive 3c. Shield - Adding more shield HP does not give you more passive shield regen like in EVE 3d. Shield - Adding more shield extenders does not increase your sig profile 3e. Shield - Passive regen in EVE is continous, in DUST it is not so passive shield tanking is not a viable option 3f. Modules - Apart from the lack of variety in modules there is also a lack of varients which had reduced PG/CPU requirements which also had other reduced stats but it could mean you could squeeze out enough CPU to fit something else 3g. Vehicles - PG/CPU starved, In EVE i have no problem fitting up with T2 mods, in DUST on my infantry suit i rarely have a problem with enchanced mods for an enhanced suit but it seems for vehicles i have to generally put in a CPU/PG mod or leave some slots empty like on the Madrugar which is the worst offender 3h. Vehicles - Will we get advanced/proto vehicles? Right now we do have nothing, no varients, no specalized vehicles no chance to upgrade that HAV skill to 3 or 5 and get something new with a worthwhile skill bonus while i sit in my PROTO SENTINAL with PROTO HMG and PROTO MODULES with LEVEL 5 INFANTRY SKILLS which offer more than whats in a pilots skill tree 4. Infantry 4a. Shield - Adding shield extenders does not increase sig profile 4b. Ive run out for infantry you are already the chosen ones I want to make sure to comment on 3h. What would be a very big helper to game balance overall would be the removal of tiers in Dropsuits, and the last thing we need is to add in tier-based power-creep via ADV and PRO vehicles. Specialist vehicles are a completely different matter, however. Personally, I think Marauders that are excellent at defense and Enforcers that are glass cannons would be an excellent addition to the game, as well as bringing back the Logistics Dropship and some other variants we've lost along the way. I like your post overall. Going by names of the tanks, their roles should be revered. when I think of a marauder, I think of a pirate; they didn't stay and defend, they went out and took what they wanted. Marauder should be the attacker tank, the Enforcer the defender. Dunno why CCP did it that way so long ago during Chrome. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2406	Posted - 2014.11.28 16:41:00 - [7] - Quote Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 4 seconds it feels alot longer 4 seconds is an eternity in a battle. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim


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