Ratatti i found you matari AA (anti-armor) autocannon (not that idea of mine but new one) ;p

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This beast was big and helvete unwieldy in fallout and honestly it wasnt that far away from your 40k one ;)

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Auto Cannon is so big it take 2 Guardsmen to maintain and operate......and since their use breaks the Codex Astartes even the Marines don't use them solo.

Superhumans in W40k geneticaly made humans with heavy frame suits from plasteele with servos.
Superhumans in Dust 514 geneticaly advanced clones with heavy frame suits from nanomaterials with servos.

Again not big difference, helvete if Heavy frame can took heavy machine gun (what is in our world mounted only to vehicles) why no autocannon ;)

There's an Auto Cannon in Space Marine?

I know there's a Heavy Bolter, Plasma Cannon, Lascannon, and the Dreadnaught Assault Cannon.....but I don't remember an Autocannon in the game.

A a aaa, nope terminator with autocannon ;p

I played for Blood Angels, but i have some Tzeentch time too :D

Indeed. The Codex states conventional military tactics that most loyalist Chapters espouse in their tactics and those tactics conventionally disallow such heavy fire power from a non entrenched position. Moreover the latest Codex Space Marines does not contain any units that can carry auto canon to my knowledge.

Edit: Played Sisters of Battle, Tyranids, and Slaaneshi Emperors Children.

comparing the grenade machingun from fallout and an autocannon from 40k isnt really accurate. fallouts gun lobs grenades (doesnt shoot conventional projectiles)hence the name. if you want something to compare it to in the 40k lore, the heavy bolter would be more accurate. it fires large caliber rocket propelled explosives. not large inert projectiles like the autocanoon. similar to autocannon in most respects regarding anti armor but much more awesome. whats more minmatar, lobbing grenades or hurling 25mm rocket propelled high explosives? my moneys on the latter

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/ltmitch/HeavyBolter-Side-1.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj171/Zodiac76/Terrain/PICT0030.jpg

the latter with the just looks cool, not sure if links work. if not just look them up yourself

Salamanders just appeal to me. Thunder hammers and fire. And plasma. And more fire. And hammers to the face.

I imagine the Caldari heacy CQ weapon being a massive shotgun.

Imagine the Forgegun, but a shotgun.
*mindblown*

yea true they are techinically rocket launchers, but i just find them more appealing for the minmatar imo. in the tabletop game they (using your IMAGINATION) have a terrifying double bark boom thats unique to the bolter tree. adding a weapon to dust that actually makes noise when it shoots would be nice. magsec? sound like machinegun farts, smg sounds like someone spitting out a mouthful of peas and what happened to the shotgun? it used to sound like god stepping on legos. now its a pitiful dodge ball.

And a machinegun does?

NOTHING besides a sniper rifle fits w/ the Caldari Stereotype of being **** in CQC. So a CQC Heavy gun would be wonderfully UP if made according to the idea that we are supposed to suck.

im confused. because thatd just be an hmg variant.
and since the hmg variant that shoots grenades would be an autocannon it also validates what i said about the hmg already being the autocannon.
i support the idea. the autocannons in eve have the rotatting minigun style barrels. so the hmg fits.
new variants of any weapon are always welcomed as long as they are balanced.
if thats all he meant by heavy heavy machine gun as a extremely low rof high damage hmg then thats fine.
the wording is just odd and incredibly vague.

Double handed sword

For the Gallente heavy weapon, a Heavy Mass Driver. Graphics from the regular mass driver. Stats: Halve the magazine capacity, halve the maximum ammo carried, halve the maximum range while maintaining the height of the arc and travel time, double the damage. Add a flux variant for taking on shield tankers and equipment fields. Reload one shell at a time, like a shotgun, except you have to play the MD reload animation three times to reload three shells.

For the Amarr heavy weapon, a Heavy Laser. Graphics from the forge gun and laser rifle. Range of about 10m. Takes 5 seconds to overheat, 10 seconds to cool down, 5 seconds to unlock if it overheats. Regular damage is triple the laser rifle's damage. Aim-down-sights button causes the Amarr heavy laser wielder to expend all their stamina in a very fast, short sprint, straight forward (turn rate drops lower than when aiming down sights with a sniper rifle, so no sprinting around corners). The aim-down-sights-button sprint only covers up to 10m (from full stamina) in half a second and doubles the Heavy Laser damage during the sprint and for one second afterwards; also doubles the heat build up for that one and a half seconds. If it makes a "Whhhaaw" noise while spinning, like a stupidly large light saber, that would be alright with me.


Is there a way to give weapons a damage bonus against vehicle shields and vehicle armor? Without that, none of the heavy weapons are going to avoid being infantry slaughtering tools.

Sounds like the flux variant. If it can't fire faster than the plasma cannon's shoot-reload-shoot-reload-shoot-reload pattern though, why not just carry the plasma cannon? The resemblance to the mass driver is in the shoot-shoot-shoot-reload-reload-reload pattern, and the firing arc that's more like a mortar than an rocket-propelled-grenade.

Satisfied with that? Lol. anyway a hmg is not an autocannon but id like to see an autocannon in dust esp as a turret on vehicles. I also dint see why your pointing out that dust is vs is relevant at all. I for one still favor the inclusion of npcs other than turrets(sleeper drones) and agent driven nissions(you know... Like in EVE) that would bring the depth to this game that i would need to see before i got back on the recruiting warpath

still waiting on clarification about what the gal mortar is supposed to be and why the gallente have need of long range minmatar themed artillery when we already have the forgegun since gal use rails interchangably with blasters

disagree.

the forgegun is a railgun, making it a hybrid weapon.
it is equally useable as a gallente weapon or a caldari as both races use rail guns and both races in eve have bonuses to all hybrids with no distinction made between rails or blasters.

its one category. hyrbids. and cal and gal share the entirety of the category equally.