I think that if you really want to benefit the new player then you should consider giving them all the frontlines with a militia racial equipment.

I made a thread on this a month or so ago, I just made five starter fits per race in protofits. Here is the link if you want to use anything I made as a reference point.

As long as we are talking about starter fits, I think there should be a heavy and light starter fit to go with the mediums we already have. A chance to try everything with no skills required.

Why do mlt medium frames have less slots than mlt light frames?

Scouts, and their mlt counterparts both have the same number of slots. assaults and starter suits should be the same way.

Amarr 1/3
Caldari 3/1
Gallente 1/3
Minmatar 2/2

Same with sentinels and mlt heavy frames, and mlt frames all have a 1/1 slot layout.
Amarr 1/2
Caldari 2/1
Gallente 1/2
Minmatar 2/1

There should be a proper militia logistics suit for each race in the starter fits. Not a hack job medium suit labelled as 'Medic'.

Sorry I haven't looked at your spreadsheet yet Ripley. Will try to later.

Looking at the spreadsheet...

You really shouldn't make every starter fit have the same light weapon.

For the minmatar, there should be one fit for each weapon: CR, ACR, Mass Driver
Which weapon goes where is up to you. Plasma Cannon, Laser Rifle, and Sniper Rifle for the other races of course.

I'd say that each race should also get a fitting with a shotgun, swarm launcher, and hmg...but that might be taking it a bit too far

You could base it on the type-II's, like the "Fossil" militia minmatar BPO. One light, no sidearm, and 2 EQ slots.

Honestly, I'd also like to see the needles taken away from the medic fits if they didn't have 2 EQ slots.

I'm surprised the Amarr ones is still missing a slot.

Die!

Adding a reactive plate (3% penalty to movement speed) negates its speed which the minmatar rely on. Newberries don't have have biotics level three to negate it.

2)On the the medic suits: NO PRECISION ENHANCER!

I agree the the myrofib is useless on the suit. However,in a nightmare world where you gave a medic only two slots, both of them need to be hp buffers. Might as well leave the myrofib on it. Whats a militia precision enhancer going to do on a character with zero SP in precision enhancement?

I agree with changing the needle for a rep tool. Along with the recent needle changes

Adding a second equipment slot i am sorry to vote no. As much as i want a free BPO logi suit, These are the starter suits, and they get the same slot layout as a basic Caldari logi?

3) AV Side arm : the Magsec is not Minmatar SMG would be just fine.

That being said i would also revert the flay to the smg as a side arm on the frontline suit as well. If your going minmatar assault then your bonus is with the SMG. Militia flaylock simply doesn't have the power (158 damage lol ) or the splash (1.5m)to be any good.

On the Logi precision: a logi is not supposed to go around looking for enemy players. Damped or not, you're already going to be in close range when you do find them. r It still utterly useles for a logi to equip, especially considering a lack of other hp options, as well as you have NO Damps or Range Amps. You will both find each other at the same time, except he will have more hp than you. Bye bye medic.

On logi passive bonuses Logi suits have a passive bonus to just one equipment. All of the other equipment any suit can use just as well. Thus, the scout logi was born. Any suit in the game can rep as much as a Proto Amarr, Caldari, and Gallente Logi. Switch any equipment and any logi associated with it in the above sentence.

Flaylock does have 5% per level, newberries haven't got the flaylock skill to adv or pro yet to take advantage of that. The militia flaylock is still hot garbage. Try running around with an unspecced flaylock. A militia SMG is by far superior.

Why not give the medic or one of the variants a militia mass driver?

The suits need not be identical.

Depends. Tanks were tiericided and they've never been more boring and uninspired. It's a great buzzword that... but doesn't always work in practice.

Here is my suggestion.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/t_t50nnaSSgBu9CD0D7gLaQ/htmlview

Take away that needle from the medic and give him a damn rep tool already.

Agree on everything except the removal of the Sniper fit.
So long as Sniper rifles are in the game, newbs should be aware of them, and how to use them.

Removing it serves no objective purpose.

Let them fall back on it when they're in over their head in a match.

They need to save all the isk they can in the beginning.

tired, can't be arsed to read, but why the *#%&* has the amarr starter fits got 2 highs 150 shields and 300 Armour - but no space for a rep......useless bro