DUST Search - Breach AR

Breakin Stuff wrote:

Bradric Banewolf wrote:

Oh my god with the Breach bashing?! Prof 5 and sharpshooter 5! That's what's rocking your socks off! Not lvl 3 AR?! In comparison to every other rifle it does it's job! That's like saying guys with prof 5 sharpshooter 5 on the CR is OP?!

As far as the assault hmg goes it's not the door kicking hmg!!! It's for longer than average hmg engagement! Most of you have adopted the "bull in the China shop" mentality and approach to running heavy?! In the hands of caldari and minmatar heavies with speed, regen, and shields the MO-4 (MOFO), and the freedom hmg's are solid weapons! Are they PC weapons? No, but neither are a lot of weapons. That's because of the limited amount of maps in PC. When running the assault versions you have to play differently than what most heavies are used to.

Careful what you wish for, or have we all forgotten so quickly the burst hmg from hell??

The assault HMG is utterly ineffective at its intended ranges because dispersion is entirely too loose. You can't get enough hits to make the gun work.

People aren't asking for DPS buffs they want the ASSMG to be able to actually hit.


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Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 480	Posted - 2014.11.26 05:45:00 - [1] - Quote Oh my god with the Breach bashing?! Prof 5 and sharpshooter 5! That's what's rocking your socks off! Not lvl 3 AR?! In comparison to every other rifle it does it's job! That's like saying guys with prof 5 sharpshooter 5 on the CR is OP?! As far as the assault hmg goes it's not the door kicking hmg!!! It's for longer than average hmg engagement! Most of you have adopted the "bull in the China shop" mentality and approach to running heavy?! In the hands of caldari and minmatar heavies with speed, regen, and shields the MO-4 (MOFO), and the freedom hmg's are solid weapons! Are they PC weapons? No, but neither are a lot of weapons. That's because of the limited amount of maps in PC. When running the assault versions you have to play differently than what most heavies are used to. Careful what you wish for, or have we all forgotten so quickly the burst hmg from hell?? "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 481	Posted - 2014.11.26 14:24:00 - [2] - Quote Imp Smash wrote: To be fair, not JUST the breach, but also the scrambler rifle and the CR (both varients) can go toe to toe with an HMG and have a good chance of winning. This! "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 481	Posted - 2014.11.26 14:27:00 - [3] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Oh my god with the Breach bashing?! Prof 5 and sharpshooter 5! That's what's rocking your socks off! Not lvl 3 AR?! In comparison to every other rifle it does it's job! That's like saying guys with prof 5 sharpshooter 5 on the CR is OP?! As far as the assault hmg goes it's not the door kicking hmg!!! It's for longer than average hmg engagement! Most of you have adopted the "bull in the China shop" mentality and approach to running heavy?! In the hands of caldari and minmatar heavies with speed, regen, and shields the MO-4 (MOFO), and the freedom hmg's are solid weapons! Are they PC weapons? No, but neither are a lot of weapons. That's because of the limited amount of maps in PC. When running the assault versions you have to play differently than what most heavies are used to. Careful what you wish for, or have we all forgotten so quickly the burst hmg from hell?? The assault HMG is utterly ineffective at its intended ranges because dispersion is entirely too loose. You can't get enough hits to make the gun work. People aren't asking for DPS buffs they want the ASSMG to be able to actually hit. That's fine, but why do they keep asking for a breach AR nerf? The ScR, CR, and RR hit just as hard! What would you like the CQC race to fight in CQC with? Pop guns? Heavies are CQC currently so we need a weapon that can down them, and the breach AR does that job! Nerfing it will limit the gallente assaults and commandos to shotguns and the PLC in CQC. "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 482	Posted - 2014.11.26 17:58:00 - [4] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: I believe that you have missed the point banewolf. The thread is to beg a buff for the Assault HMG not demand a nerf of the BAR. It was used as a comparison model because it's pretty much superior to the AHMG in pretty much every way. Bluntly the statement would be true no matter what weapon you compared it to. The AHMG simply does not perform well in its intended operating area at all. Plus it overheats faster than a prenerf STD HMG. Agreed. The AHMG needs either less heat buildup, or less dispersion. That's the fix. Slightly more damage too. Just have to be careful with CCP and their buffs and nerfs?! The fix needed will be obvious, and they will do the exact thing that makes it OP?! Like the burst hmg. The part that grinds my gears is when guys think that the only way to buff a weapons performance is greater damage?! There are a number of ways to nerf and buff rifles and other weapons. Slower rates of fire add to accuracy and less dispersion for rifles like the breach AR. Even when the AR class was nerfed to the dirt the breach was still the only dependable one of it's class due to it's rate of fire and accuracy. More shots hit the target with the breach than the regular AR. The AHMG can do well as is, but to help with it your suggestion about the dispersion is a good one. It should be much more accurate than the general purpose HMG. Not to the point of needing a scope, but with it's lowered damage it should drill the target well at that optimal range. Less heat build up would help that as well so heavies have the 3 options to choose from. Burst has added damage with quicker heat build up. HMG is balanced on both. The AHMG has less damage, more range, and less heat build up. All weapon classes and variants are good to an extent, but I dont want the community wasting anymore time and isk fighting OP weapons?! On the flip side I don't want mercs weapons being over nerfed to the point of being useless! I know what that's like more than most being gallente. It's like playing on hard mode while everyone else is having a field day. The outcome to OP weapons is usually over nerfs?! The RR comes to mind immediately. The charge up is a bit too long now. I just don't wanna keep buying respects because guys come to the forums, and kill your main battle rifle because they can't counter it?! When I advocated changes to the rail I gave reasonable information from use and damage taken. What happened to it afterwards was totally a super nerfed to quiet the crying on the forums?! The kick was initially over done, and then toned down. However, the charge is too long?! It went from overly effective everywhere, to barely effective in optimal! A bit passionate I know, but when this happens it sets back progress for mercs and corps! Some of your strongest guys having to completely change roles, and re-train for a completely different position?! Then I've gotta reassign him in the lineup?! OP weapons aren't fun! It's frustrating! I hope CCP reads this, and considers it when they tweak a weapon to beast mode?! "Anybody order chaos?"