DUST Search - Warning - Scammers in Squad lobbies

Stevez Lau wrote:

Talyn Xhalax wrote:

Ghost Kaisar wrote:

Talyn Xhalax wrote:

Ghost Kaisar wrote:

OP

Scamming is allowed by CCP

Welcome to New Eden. It's harsh and it sucks but this is the way it is.

Proof: Read this article.

CCP does NOTHING about this. HTFU

EDIT: Another great story.

That is not proof, that is absense of proof. Proof would be them coming out and saying "oh hey you can scam it's a part of the game" but unless you quote the source with a link i don't see any forum post or website information stating this.

Fine. Read this.

Very well, i stand corrected, i guess they are trying to cover their backs by not having to deal with returning in game money and all the agro.

However, i still believe that it should not be accepted as "the normal" as it just validates scamming and i would rather not give validation to something as low as robbing people through their stupidity.

But you proved your point, Dust does indeed "accept" scamming is not something they will act on.

Hun, we have been in New Eden for years. We know what we are talking about.


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Talyn Xhalax New 'Recruits' Get Paid ISK - Ask For Details 0	Posted - 2014.11.26 01:45:00 - [1] - Quote Hello, There have been Squad lobbies set up with the titles: "Free ISK " "Selling PSN Cards" "ISK Doubling" etc. I and others have set up Squad lobbies with the titles: "Warning Free ISK is a scam" but people are still falling for it. I am not one of them and i would never hand over ISK or exploit the game in that way, hard earned ISK is what is important (in my opinion). Please CCP act on this before it gets worse and more players are turned away from this great game. Now, Some of you might find it funny, some might be "ok" with people getting scammed but think for a second. If new players get scammed and quit the game = less new players, less new players means = less spending of AUR and the game will not keep going without a new flux of new players. Not only that but we as a gaming community have a duty to look out for new players so they can enjoy the fun with us and not be scammed. They are only humans and humans make mistakes but if we let them get scammed and could help them and don't...we are no better than the scammers. So to new players, don't hand over your ISK to anyone, you do and you are risking your hard earned ISK for nothing. Scamming is wrong and so is the act of exploiting this game. Both need to be addressed before it gets out of control. Here are the list of names so far (they char and psn names) I will update post with new usernames and if need be screen shot and videos. Scammer 1 PSN: Sw4l_420 Scammer 2 Char name: Dogs fun66 ffffffson PSN: Fireandlave Clan: The-Brothers_in_Arms Scammer 3: Char: Holy Perfection PSN: imahooker316 Clan: Terrible Shooterz Please help in posting any scammers.
Talyn Xhalax New 'Recruits' Get Paid ISK - Ask For Details 0	Posted - 2014.11.26 02:07:00 - [2] - Quote da GAND wrote: lolz thought people would stop falling for isk scams after they let us transfer isk to each other longggggggggggg ago but I guess Dust is still getting new players somehow New players joined, with increased scamming they leave before buying AUR. That worst case example does not help Dust in the long run. New sign ups don't pay for servers, AUR not being brought, you do the math. I have a prime example, Google: Hero Online, it is a PC game that had a large user base but after scammers grew in the numbers, more people left. That game now has very little playing it. That is just one example.
Talyn Xhalax New 'Recruits' Get Paid ISK - Ask For Details 2	Posted - 2014.11.26 02:24:00 - [3] - Quote huanbobo wrote: Talyn Xhalax wrote: da GAND wrote: lolz thought people would stop falling for isk scams after they let us transfer isk to each other longggggggggggg ago but I guess Dust is still getting new players somehow New players joined, with increased scamming they leave before buying AUR. That worst case example does not help Dust in the long run. New sign ups don't pay for servers, AUR not being brought, you do the math. I have a prime example, Google: Hero Online, it is a PC game that had a large user base but after scammers grew in the numbers, more people left. That game now has very little playing it. That is just one example. its ironic that you talk about scams when you're running one yourself. Look at your corp name. It's not "my corp" i was invited and they offered me 2.5m to join. They paid me and offer me 20m if i get 100k WP. How is that scamming me? I have handed over nothing or scammed no one. So what is your point? If you play Dust daily uow ill see my lobby warning people how not to get scammed, please remind me, what efforts you have made to ensure people don't get scammed..i mean other then attempting to point fingers at someone who is trying to help
Talyn Xhalax New 'Recruits' Get Paid ISK - Ask For Details 2	Posted - 2014.11.26 02:46:00 - [4] - Quote Raiden246 wrote: What is it that you expect CCP to do, take away the "Give Money" option? Those players are the ones going into squads believing that they could get "free ISK" or "double" their ISK amounts (which would be cheating the game if that actually worked) If they want to be morons than let them. The idea that they can get their ISK multiplied by some exploit/hack or whatever, is something people should immediately realize is against the rules, cheating the game, doing something that should get you banned from the game. And I think it's amusing that this is what you believe will turn new players away; Not the being proto-stomped by queue syncers (which, there aren't much less of than before 1.9) getting rolled over by jihad jeeps, tanks, dropships, and not knowing what fits to run or what to do to get kills or make any progress. You'll even see people using aurum to proto-stomp in Academy, that's what's chasing people away from the game, not scammers. What do i expect the CCP to do? I don't know use old feature built into the Playstation 3 that might allow to ban such words as "FREE ISK" in lobby titles. That is just one idea... Ok let me flip this, so the logic goes - let there be 30 lobbies with all titled "FREE ISK" etc etc and if they get scammed...meh so what...and you really don't think that will turn players away from the game? I come from PC gaming and from experience, games that go unchecked with scamming leads to decline in membership... Ok i'll tell you what i'll shut up i guess any good spirit in this game just ends at the door, let people get scammed and when the game comes to a end and you spent countless hours grinding for SP and WP....well you can say meh nothing i could do, right? Ok i got ya.
Talyn Xhalax New 'Recruits' Get Paid ISK - Ask For Details 2	Posted - 2014.11.26 03:03:00 - [5] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: OP Scamming is allowed by CCP Welcome to New Eden. It's harsh and it sucks but this is the way it is. Proof: Read this article. CCP does NOTHING about this. HTFU EDIT: Another great story. That is not proof, that is absense of proof. Proof would be them coming out and saying "oh hey you can scam it's a part of the game" but unless you quote the source with a link i don't see any forum post or website information stating this.
Talyn Xhalax New 'Recruits' Get Paid ISK - Ask For Details 2	Posted - 2014.11.26 03:15:00 - [6] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Talyn Xhalax wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: OP Scamming is allowed by CCP Welcome to New Eden. It's harsh and it sucks but this is the way it is. Proof: Read this article. CCP does NOTHING about this. HTFU EDIT: Another great story. That is not proof, that is absense of proof. Proof would be them coming out and saying "oh hey you can scam it's a part of the game" but unless you quote the source with a link i don't see any forum post or website information stating this. Fine. Read this. Very well, i stand corrected, i guess they are trying to cover their backs by not having to deal with returning in game money and all the agro. However, i still believe that it should not be accepted as "the normal" as it just validates scamming and i would rather not give validation to something as low as robbing people through their stupidity. But you proved your point, Dust does indeed "accept" scamming is not something they will act on.
Talyn Xhalax New 'Recruits' Get Paid ISK - Ask For Details 2	Posted - 2014.11.26 03:20:00 - [7] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: OP, you should open a support ticket for this. The GMs need a good laugh every now and then Welcome to New Eden, enjoy your stay. Yeah you're right, sorry for trying to help new players, damn what was i thinking....i'm glad you can laugh at the "do-gooder" it's very funnY! I guess this is just a perfect example of a community that has so little regard for a community spirit. Laugh at those who attempt to do the "right" thing and glaze over those who attempt to validate the "wrong" thing. Very well
Talyn Xhalax New 'Recruits' Get Paid ISK - Ask For Details 3	Posted - 2014.11.26 03:38:00 - [8] - Quote Stevez Lau wrote: Talyn Xhalax wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Talyn Xhalax wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: OP Scamming is allowed by CCP Welcome to New Eden. It's harsh and it sucks but this is the way it is. Proof: Read this article. CCP does NOTHING about this. HTFU EDIT: Another great story. That is not proof, that is absense of proof. Proof would be them coming out and saying "oh hey you can scam it's a part of the game" but unless you quote the source with a link i don't see any forum post or website information stating this. Fine. Read this. Very well, i stand corrected, i guess they are trying to cover their backs by not having to deal with returning in game money and all the agro. However, i still believe that it should not be accepted as "the normal" as it just validates scamming and i would rather not give validation to something as low as robbing people through their stupidity. But you proved your point, Dust does indeed "accept" scamming is not something they will act on. Hun, we have been in New Eden for years. We know what we are talking about. You would think after spending "years" in the eve universe, you would see the pitfalls and hope to help others avoid them. I guess it's just some people have morals that don't end when you turn on a game, it's a matter of choice. I find it wrong but also anoying qhen you see those lobbies and they are growing in numbers.