DUST Search - How to effectively use the nova knives

Timtron Victory wrote:

Lynn Beck wrote:

Don't expect to kill heavies with lv1 knives.

At best you'll get tanky scouts and nooby meds.

For starters I'd make a super cheap suit, stacked with Dampeners only. (mine is a Quafe minja with 2 basic damps, or 1 complex damp and a enhanced kincat, with a militia Combat Rifle and nova knives)

Also possible would be twin dampeners, basic cloak, and only knives, but that requires both high Electronics/Engineering and high Scout level.

If you're looking for a high end fit(after you've trained in the throwaway fit, hopefully) try an advanced suit with sidearm mods, and the best dampeners you can fit, or Precision/Range mods with enough damps to dodge the 28 DB scanner( i think that's just 1 complex damp)
Beyond that though, experiment a LOT with varying amounts of Kincats, damage mods, equipments, and EWAR mods.

Whats ewar? Its a very good weapon for taking out snipers, my shotgun keeps failing me so annoying, I even had to switch to breach shotgun. I am loving the nova knives but I specced into an Amarr scout so I am not fast, can only use Militia Kin cats.
Whats the best light weapon for a scout apart from the shotgun? I cant use guns without scopes my aiming is horrible. I cant use the RR not matter how hard I try

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Timtron Victory Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 83	Posted - 2014.11.25 20:37:00 - [1] - Quote I need help from the pros Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 401	Posted - 2014.11.25 20:39:00 - [2] - Quote Stab them in the back The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 401	Posted - 2014.11.25 20:42:00 - [3] - Quote Seriously though, cheap fit with no cloak and expect to die. I run Atleast one kincat to get in and out fast but the biggest thing is learning to predict the red's movement and go for solo reds at first. Also beware of holding a charge as it tips off those smart enough to listen. The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST
Timtron Victory Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 84	Posted - 2014.11.25 20:45:00 - [4] - Quote I am at level one nova knives and could not kill a heavy with a charge and a swipe, so so sad, it happened twice in one match, even with two complex side arm damage mod, I removed the mods and tried a charge instead of just swipes, I guess the nova knives is worth it, since lag of my internet makes shotgun useless. I will try the kincat too, but it will have to be militia Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC 439	Posted - 2014.11.25 20:58:00 - [5] - Quote Timtron Victory wrote: I am at level one nova knives and could not kill a heavy with a charge and a swipe, so so sad, it happened twice in one match, even with two complex side arm damage mod, I removed the mods and tried a charge instead of just swipes, I guess the nova knives is worth it, since lag of my internet makes shotgun useless. I will try the kincat too, but it will have to be militia Remember it's just a sidearm. It's deadly and has very high alpha damage but unless your specced into it pretty far, it's only used for certain situations. ONLY USE CHARGE SWIPE IF YOU KNOW YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH IT, UNLESS YOU'RE SKILLED ENOUGH TO PULL IT OFF. Pick off stragglers, get someone off and objective or hacking a turret or kill a straight-line heavy that's not paying attention to his surroundings. Don't try to slice and dice a group of enemies, unless you feel you can take on two, MAYBE three, but three is a stretch. I use it as a defensive weapon in PC (when I was a min scout, that is) but in Pubs I really only use them when I can. It's a sidearm, the novelty wears off. Only loyal to the republic.
Lynn Beck Delta Vanguard 6 2300	Posted - 2014.11.25 20:58:00 - [6] - Quote Don't expect to kill heavies with lv1 knives. At best you'll get tanky scouts and nooby meds. For starters I'd make a super cheap suit, stacked with Dampeners only. (mine is a Quafe minja with 2 basic damps, or 1 complex damp and a enhanced kincat, with a militia Combat Rifle and nova knives) Also possible would be twin dampeners, basic cloak, and only knives, but that requires both high Electronics/Engineering and high Scout level. If you're looking for a high end fit(after you've trained in the throwaway fit, hopefully) try an advanced suit with sidearm mods, and the best dampeners you can fit, or Precision/Range mods with enough damps to dodge the 28 DB scanner( i think that's just 1 complex damp) Beyond that though, experiment a LOT with varying amounts of Kincats, damage mods, equipments, and EWAR mods. General John Ripper -BAM! I'm Emeril Lagasse. This message was approved by the 'Nobody Loved You' Foundation'
Timtron Victory Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 84	Posted - 2014.11.25 21:02:00 - [7] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Don't expect to kill heavies with lv1 knives. At best you'll get tanky scouts and nooby meds. For starters I'd make a super cheap suit, stacked with Dampeners only. (mine is a Quafe minja with 2 basic damps, or 1 complex damp and a enhanced kincat, with a militia Combat Rifle and nova knives) Also possible would be twin dampeners, basic cloak, and only knives, but that requires both high Electronics/Engineering and high Scout level. If you're looking for a high end fit(after you've trained in the throwaway fit, hopefully) try an advanced suit with sidearm mods, and the best dampeners you can fit, or Precision/Range mods with enough damps to dodge the 28 DB scanner( i think that's just 1 complex damp) Beyond that though, experiment a LOT with varying amounts of Kincats, damage mods, equipments, and EWAR mods. Whats ewar? Its a very good weapon for taking out snipers, my shotgun keeps failing me so annoying, I even had to switch to breach shotgun. I am loving the nova knives but I specced into an Amarr scout so I am not fast, can only use Militia Kin cats. Whats the best light weapon for a scout apart from the shotgun? I cant use guns without scopes my aiming is horrible. I cant use the RR not matter how hard I try Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC 439	Posted - 2014.11.25 21:14:00 - [8] - Quote Timtron Victory wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Don't expect to kill heavies with lv1 knives. At best you'll get tanky scouts and nooby meds. For starters I'd make a super cheap suit, stacked with Dampeners only. (mine is a Quafe minja with 2 basic damps, or 1 complex damp and a enhanced kincat, with a militia Combat Rifle and nova knives) Also possible would be twin dampeners, basic cloak, and only knives, but that requires both high Electronics/Engineering and high Scout level. If you're looking for a high end fit(after you've trained in the throwaway fit, hopefully) try an advanced suit with sidearm mods, and the best dampeners you can fit, or Precision/Range mods with enough damps to dodge the 28 DB scanner( i think that's just 1 complex damp) Beyond that though, experiment a LOT with varying amounts of Kincats, damage mods, equipments, and EWAR mods. Whats ewar? Its a very good weapon for taking out snipers, my shotgun keeps failing me so annoying, I even had to switch to breach shotgun. I am loving the nova knives but I specced into an Amarr scout so I am not fast, can only use Militia Kin cats. Whats the best light weapon for a scout apart from the shotgun? I cant use guns without scopes my aiming is horrible. I cant use the RR not matter how hard I try Amarr scout is both a bad suit for shotgunning as well as nova kniving. I'd suggest speccing into Gal or Min. Both are faster. The min scout is the best nova knifer due to it's bonus (+25% damage profile to nova knife) but the Gallente is easier to fit and and overall better suit. eWar are things such as precision enhancers (basically upgrades your radar to detect other suits more easily), profile dampeners (make you harder to see on the enemies radar) and Kinetic Catalyzers (make you faster), etc. There are more, but those aren't really worth mentioning for your level of skill right now. Only loyal to the republic.
Crimson ShieId Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1430	Posted - 2014.11.25 21:19:00 - [9] - Quote Timtron Victory wrote: I am at level one nova knives and could not kill a heavy with a charge and a swipe, so so sad, it happened twice in one match, even with two complex side arm damage mod, I removed the mods and tried a charge instead of just swipes, I guess the nova knives is worth it, since lag of my internet makes shotgun useless. I will try the kincat too, but it will have to be militia Yea... I wouldn't recommend trying to kill anything with basic knives. Get to advanced and then try again. I'd recommend getting the rest of your suit skills up first though. You absolutely need kincats and dampeners to be effective with knives. Trying watching some of Moody's videos and get to understand the play style. Seeing as you've got an Amarr scout, you're kind of putting yourself at a disadvantage with the knives, but try to fit at least one precision enhancer on top of a range amp or two and a dampener. Being able to see your opponents is crucial to planning your attack. For starters, you'll want to only go for weaker suits, the militia stuff, the noobs, get your skills up on them, sharpen your knives with the bones of those who don't know how to shoot... then move up to bigger prey. Once you start getting the feel for them, put on more kincats and work on your strafing, learn to close the gap on targets who know you're there. Again though, I can't stress it enough. Get advanced or proto. Basic will not cut it on the current battlefield unless you're in a maxed out Minmatar scout. Oh, and make sure you have enough HP to survive short engagements. Not brick tanking, you still need your speed, but if you can't last half a second against a plasma rifle, you're going to have a bad time. I want to punch.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6161	Posted - 2014.11.25 21:26:00 - [10] - Quote With std knives, stick with light frames and hacking mercs. If you can learn to kill with those, the other knives will be easy. Also, if you are wearing any suit other than Minmatar scout, expect to have extreme difficulty until you get proto knives. At standard level, I don't even know that the raptor jump will work, but you can use corners to your advantage when someone is chasing you. At this point, your top two priorities, if you want to be a knifer, is dampening and knife skills. Those will be the ones to benefit a knifer most. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"

Timtron Victory Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 84	Posted - 2014.11.25 22:51:00 - [11] - Quote Thanks for all the replies. I am enjoying using a Bolt Pistol as an alternative to my shotgun and paired with a militia submachine gun and range amplifier. Very much fun Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2917	Posted - 2014.11.25 23:50:00 - [12] - Quote Bright Steel wrote: Stab them in the back How to tell if someone has never used NK's... One does not simply "Stab them in the back" with nova knives. It takes too long, and you'll get shot. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 931	Posted - 2014.11.25 23:53:00 - [13] - Quote Plaama Cannon is super fun, just don't spec into it... I would actually suggest if you are running a dual sidearm scout, try replacing the SMG with a Flaylock some time. Its actually pretty decent. Quafe A question doesn't always have an answer, but a problem does. Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Mejt0 Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap 530	Posted - 2014.11.25 23:58:00 - [14] - Quote The best option would be to skill minmatar scout and OHK almost everyone with 1 charged swipe. For alternative, gal/cal with damps/kincats. Knives+ACR/ScR works well. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Blueprint For Murder Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 408	Posted - 2014.11.26 00:02:00 - [15] - Quote If you are facing a heavier frame that may have seen you or is looking in your direction, you can toss a uplink or something down to bate them from behind cover then chase them around and stab them. The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
Timtron Victory Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 84	Posted - 2014.11.26 01:19:00 - [16] - Quote Yeah smg did not pack enough punch so I switched to Breach scrambler. I will try the flaylock. Thanks for all the tips but I want to have one racial suit for each role so Gal Heavy/Comm Cal Logi Amarr Scout- because I stooopidly thought stamina was better than speed since I could just get mods for speed Min Assault- since I love the combat rifle Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 402	Posted - 2014.11.26 13:00:00 - [17] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Bright Steel wrote: Stab them in the back How to tell if someone has never used NK's... One does not simply "Stab them in the back" with nova knives. It takes too long, and you'll get shot. Actually I do use KN and my minja with a coue kincats doesn't have a problem The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST


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