sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.11.24 06:14:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Mostly because they carry the following message, "If we nerf it and it's still okay to use then it was OP; if it is difficult to use, then it was never OP". It's just like witch hunt logic.
This is a dangerous way to think. It makes unnecessary nerfs on weapons for the wrong reasons which leads to whole classes being nerfed into the ground until they teeter between okay to terrible. People asking for nerfs to any equipment that stands out in the slightest want to make all weapons equally effective at all situations. Or if they are an extreme weapon(Shotgun and Sniper Rifle) so useless that people are forced to use a more moderate weapon like an AR or Scrambler Rifle.
It's happened to the Flaylock, the Scrambler Pistol, Logi's... The Rail Rifle...
Now people are pushing to nerf the Breach AR and Shotgun. What's next? The Laser Rifle, Nova Knives, Mass Driver, Plasma Cannon even? It's just a matter of time. The nerf cycle has a domino effect where anything that stands out as useful gets taken down a peg and then the next biggest gets chopped down.
When will the lunacy end!? When will we decide to start buffing under powered gear rather than nerfing everything down to dismal effectiveness? We can't always buff either but we need to make better decisions as a community on what we believe is OP or UP. Whatever happened to taking things like a man and learning how to counter things rather than complaining about anything that forces one into even the slightest of disadvantages? The sense of entitlement to a fair fight in all situations is baseless.
We all accept that a Sniper Rifle should be better than a Shotgun at range, and vice-versa. So why do people complain about getting owned by a RR at range, a Flaylock in CQC, an MD when in a group, a Laser Rifle when charging across a field, a remote explosive when hacking an objective, a cloak user running straight at you because you rely to much on your map instead of on you eyes, a Scrambler Rifle when you shield tank or a bolt pistol when you armor tank? You can't always expect a fair fight, but that's okay because you're oponents don't always have the advantage.
Why can't we accept that the entire point of having different weapons is to put other players at a disadvantage? In some fights I will have the high ground and other times I will fight an uphill battle. All a mercenary can do is rub his hands together and start climbing and that's the way it's suppose to be. So much fuss when the BrAR is about to be nerfed, but no one cares that they destroyed the RR. 'It's fine.' means obviously you haven't used it as it isn't what it's supposed to be. Where again did you defend the RR before it got nerfed into CQC?
AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
450
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Posted - 2014.11.24 12:14:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Mostly because they carry the following message, "If we nerf it and it's still okay to use then it was OP; if it is difficult to use, then it was never OP". It's just like witch hunt logic.
This is a dangerous way to think. It makes unnecessary nerfs on weapons for the wrong reasons which leads to whole classes being nerfed into the ground until they teeter between okay to terrible. People asking for nerfs to any equipment that stands out in the slightest want to make all weapons equally effective at all situations. Or if they are an extreme weapon(Shotgun and Sniper Rifle) so useless that people are forced to use a more moderate weapon like an AR or Scrambler Rifle.
It's happened to the Flaylock, the Scrambler Pistol, Logi's... The Rail Rifle...
Now people are pushing to nerf the Breach AR and Shotgun. What's next? The Laser Rifle, Nova Knives, Mass Driver, Plasma Cannon even? It's just a matter of time. The nerf cycle has a domino effect where anything that stands out as useful gets taken down a peg and then the next biggest gets chopped down.
When will the lunacy end!? When will we decide to start buffing under powered gear rather than nerfing everything down to dismal effectiveness? We can't always buff either but we need to make better decisions as a community on what we believe is OP or UP. Whatever happened to taking things like a man and learning how to counter things rather than complaining about anything that forces one into even the slightest of disadvantages? The sense of entitlement to a fair fight in all situations is baseless.
We all accept that a Sniper Rifle should be better than a Shotgun at range, and vice-versa. So why do people complain about getting owned by a RR at range, a Flaylock in CQC, an MD when in a group, a Laser Rifle when charging across a field, a remote explosive when hacking an objective, a cloak user running straight at you because you rely to much on your map instead of on you eyes, a Scrambler Rifle when you shield tank or a bolt pistol when you armor tank? You can't always expect a fair fight, but that's okay because you're oponents don't always have the advantage.
Why can't we accept that the entire point of having different weapons is to put other players at a disadvantage? In some fights I will have the high ground and other times I will fight an uphill battle. All a mercenary can do is rub his hands together and start climbing and that's the way it's suppose to be. So much fuss when the BrAR is about to be nerfed, but no one cares that they destroyed the RR. 'It's fine.' means obviously you haven't used it as it isn't what it's supposed to be. Where again did you defend the RR before it got nerfed into CQC? It was actually meant to be a buff not a nerf. I actually argued not to give it the "buff"(nerf). It nerfed it's performance... I meant where... I believe you, but you didn't seem too happy about me wanting the 'buff' to be undone.
AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.
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