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[Veteran_Community] 0	Posted - 2012.05.04 11:55:00 - [1] - Quote DUST 514: MorduGÇÖs Private Trials is a closed test of a work in progress, not final product. Please remember, if you choose to participate, everything associated with this test is confidential and may not be discussed outside of the DUST 514: MorduGÇÖs Private Trials Closed Test Forums [http://forums.dust514.com]. Your participation in the DUST 514: MorduGÇÖs Private Trials closed testing is always subject to the EULA and Confidentiality Agreement. Purchase and use of AUR and the AURUM Pack requires access to the DUST 514: MorduGÇÖs Private Trials. This in-game virtual currency may only be used during and in conjunction with the Private Trials. However, any AURUM Pack purchases made during this beta phase will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514 character account in connection with the commercial release of DUST 514. Any such credit will happen after a character wipe takes place during beta testing, and/or upon completion of the beta phase and subsequent release of the commercial version of DUST 514. No other refund of AUR or this AURUM PACK will be permitted. Please refer to the DUST 514 EULA for full terms and conditions on deletion of characters and in-game items upon completion of the beta phase.
[Veteran_Bred Fear] 0	Posted - 2012.05.18 04:01:00 - [2] - Quote On this topic, I have found myself in a Thursday through Sunday beta, some boosters are 7 days, so, does it only count weekends?
[Veteran_Nova Knife] 0	Posted - 2012.05.18 04:22:00 - [3] - Quote No, it's 7 actual days. You're probably better off buying the 3 day boosters!
[Veteran_Nor ic] 0	Posted - 2012.05.26 02:09:00 - [4] - Quote Can we transfer Aurum from our Eve accounts at this point in time?
[Veteran_Fingal Senga] 0	Posted - 2012.05.30 08:56:00 - [5] - Quote Nope, also not sure if that will ever be the case. Isk yes eventually.
[Veteran_Lucas Gauss] 0	Posted - 2012.05.31 17:38:00 - [6] - Quote So, we will be able to move isk over from eve to dust? Nice.
[Veteran_Halcyon Daio] 0	Posted - 2012.06.02 06:58:00 - [7] - Quote It was my understanding that no, EVE players CAN'T move ISK over to their DUST characters because it'd be an unfair advantage over the DUSTers that don't play EVE. Granted, a couple L2 missions can pay for anything you could ever need in DUST (At current beta prices, anyway...), but still...
[Veteran_Stylus Stoked] 0	Posted - 2012.06.02 13:08:00 - [8] - Quote Halcyon Daio wrote: It was my understanding that no, EVE players CAN'T move ISK over to their DUST characters because it'd be an unfair advantage over the DUSTers that don't play EVE. Granted, a couple L2 missions can pay for anything you could ever need in DUST (At current beta prices, anyway...), but still... If Isk can't flow from Eve to Dust... wouldn't various CCP interview videos be a fallacy? I can directly quote CCP talking about ISK flowing back and forth. Furthermore... How would Eve-Centric corps contract Dust mercs to take over the planets, i.e the whole point to Dust in the first place? Please provide a link to your "understanding" because your claim is game breaking in my opinion...
[Veteran_Halcyon Daio] 0	Posted - 2012.06.02 22:24:00 - [9] - Quote Stylus Stoked wrote: Halcyon Daio wrote: It was my understanding that no, EVE players CAN'T move ISK over to their DUST characters because it'd be an unfair advantage over the DUSTers that don't play EVE. Granted, a couple L2 missions can pay for anything you could ever need in DUST (At current beta prices, anyway...), but still... If Isk can't flow from Eve to Dust... wouldn't various CCP interview videos be a fallacy? I can directly quote CCP talking about ISK flowing back and forth. Furthermore... How would Eve-Centric corps contract Dust mercs to take over the planets, i.e the whole point to Dust in the first place? Please provide a link to your "understanding" because your claim is game breaking in my opinion... Let me rephrase: In EVE, you can select a player and right click -> Give Money. I don't think (And think you shouldn't be able to) you can do that to a DUSTer.
[Veteran_Senkiri Mitsuho] 0	Posted - 2012.06.02 22:28:00 - [10] - Quote Yes, it won't be transferring ISK like giving money to your alt, however, EVE Corps will contract DUST Corps to perform tasks for them (go blow up these guy's home base cause we feel like griefing them today), DUST Corps will probably most likely also contract EVE Corps (please come and perform an orbital strike for us?). Then there is the question of the shared infrastructure, in EVE many items that you can buy on market are only there because players make them, there are no NPC seeders for a large and growing list of items in the game (the entire idea is to make EVE and its Economy "real"). So, will DUST equipment eventually be made by EVE Players? Or will EVE equipment or components be manufactured by DUST Corps with the planetary territory they control? No, you shouldn't be able to "directly" fund your DUST account from your EVE account. However, there's nothing stopping you from "contracting" yourself at what would be quite above market-prices.

[Veteran_Maran Quinto] 0	Posted - 2012.06.03 18:28:00 - [11] - Quote If they make the market shared between the game in any way, they will be helpless to prevent it. Also, the fact that a corp can have both EvE and DUST players in it, it would make sense that Corp assets such as ISK flowed freely between the games. I mean, nothing woul probably prevent us from setting up fixed contracts anyways to 'transfer' ISK, so no reason to not allow direct transfer. (By fixed I mean that if contracting is going to make ANY sense, EvE players need to be able to limit who can take a contract down to granularity af directly assigning the job to one specific DUST team, and if you can do that, you can reward them as you see fit this transfering ISK at will...) These games will be connected and teh ISK will flow. Better find your EvE sugar daddy now than later...
[Veteran_Joe Darkwater] 0	Posted - 2012.06.03 20:32:00 - [12] - Quote The more progress you make in Dust the more ISK you'll need. Imagine matches where you loose your tanks like you loose your militia suits now. Think about giving a new player 10.000.000 ISK in EVE. Thats a fortune for that guy but for a long time player 10m ISK is the smallest amount he can think of :)
[Veteran_Agne Joringer] 0	Posted - 2012.06.05 18:35:00 - [13] - Quote Right now, Eve players can't see Dust players, and therefore can't give them anything. I know; I tried. I also suspect that will change as the beta progresses. Maybe eventually the Eve players can log into the test server and see/pay the Dusters. And when it goes live, Eve players on Tranquility will have full interaction with Dust players. By that time, I expect Eve players to be able to give ISK to Dust players, and Dust players to be able to give ISK to anyone. If you think about it, that will be necessary for the sandbox. I doubt there will be a "betrayal" or "corporate espionage" contract, so these sorts agreement will need some other way to pay people. And before you worry that game mechanics won't require payment, that's the point. If you do business on the black market, remember you're dealing with crooks
[Veteran_Austin Biffeh] 0	Posted - 2012.06.08 19:12:00 - [14] - Quote Halcyon Daio wrote: I don't think (And think you shouldn't be able to) you can do that to a DUSTer. Wut. Why can't we give money to DUSTers?
[Veteran_Ankenor] 0	Posted - 2012.06.08 23:54:00 - [15] - Quote AFAIK, no official specifics about the interoperability between EVE Online and Dust 514 have been released. With that in mind, I can't help but think that transferring wealth from EVE to Dust and back will in some form be a giant ISK sink for the economy. The number of directions it could go is staggering, so its hard to speculate. Anyone have any links or information on what the interface between the games will be like? I'm very curious to know.
[Veteran_JayRunner] 0	Posted - 2012.06.10 22:43:00 - [16] - Quote In the e3 trailer in 2011 it showed prices of units being much higher than this beta, so perhaps the price and rewards will rise in the later build of the game to allow it to flow in the eve economy and allow some equilibrium in the eve universe.
[Veteran_Cobalt Lavitz] 0	Posted - 2012.06.13 03:01:00 - [17] - Quote Don't forget the sheer number of items that will be consumed by dusters on a daily basis. Dusters will probably fight thousands of battles weekly with much more expensive gear, balancing the isk input from capsuleers. Additionally, all that money only means extra shinies for the very good players.
[Veteran_Zwierz Test] 0	Posted - 2012.06.16 02:57:00 - [18] - Quote Some things should work like in EvE - after battle the winning team should can salvage/loot the corpses/wrecks to get some intact items and weapons, even jumpsutis from suicide. 25% drop rate should be enough...
[Veteran_mikel Dracionas] 0	Posted - 2012.06.16 08:23:00 - [19] - Quote Halcyon Daio wrote: It was my understanding that no, EVE players CAN'T move ISK over to their DUST characters because it'd be an unfair advantage over the DUSTers that don't play EVE. Granted, a couple L2 missions can pay for anything you could ever need in DUST (At current beta prices, anyway...), but still... It was my understand that you would be able to send money via mail and paid contracts and basicly "give" money to your duster from your eve the only advantage that would give evers is that theyll have isk to buy thing at their current skill lvl
[Veteran_Silas Krisolo] 0	Posted - 2012.06.16 15:44:00 - [20] - Quote Back to the topic at hand: Just asking for clarification to be safe. So any AURUM purchased NOW, during the beta, will be refunded every single time a wipe occurs, and when the game actual has its commercial release? So I just bought 5000 AUR. After beta ends and the game is released, I'll have 5000 AUR no matter what happened in between?

[Veteran_SILENTSAM 69] 0	Posted - 2012.06.18 09:08:00 - [21] - Quote Yes, they will give you back any AUR you buy now after any wipe, until the game is released.
XRAY Th3 F3ar3D Algintal Core Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2012.06.28 18:22:00 - [22] - Quote Forums Veteran wrote: Yes, they will give you back any AUR you buy now after any wipe, until the game is released. That is good to know, I was debating if I should by AUR or not during Beta.
crazy space ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2012.06.28 20:08:00 - [23] - Quote What about the rest of the pack? what happens to my 30 day booster if i use it now? I only get 3 days out of it at a time. So should I save it untill beta end so it's not wasted?
Eco Esper Algintal Core Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2012.06.29 03:00:00 - [24] - Quote crazy space wrote: What about the rest of the pack? what happens to my 30 day booster if i use it now? I only get 3 days out of it at a time. So should I save it untill beta end so it's not wasted? You'll get everything back after each wipe.
Renzo Kuken Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 369	Posted - 2012.06.29 19:04:00 - [25] - Quote Forums Veteran wrote: Back to the topic at hand: Just asking for clarification to be safe. So any AURUM purchased NOW, during the beta, will be refunded every single time a wipe occurs, and when the game actual has its commercial release? So I just bought 5000 AUR. After beta ends and the game is released, I'll have 5000 AUR no matter what happened in between? yes all AUM purchased will be refunded every time there is a wipe
ArcAngel Slayer Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1	Posted - 2012.07.02 11:14:00 - [26] - Quote I'm assuming all SP's are gone after the summer beta is wiped?
Dimitri Tanaka Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2012.07.02 22:10:00 - [27] - Quote Forums Veteran wrote: No, it's 7 actual days. You're probably better off buying the 3 day boosters! Like EvE, Dust won't protect you from making bad choices.
Sohkar Adelis Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 61	Posted - 2012.07.03 03:45:00 - [28] - Quote since nothing we actually accomplish in the beta will be transfered over, with the exception of AURUM. lots of BETA's do the same thing. Only thing that will carry over is your AURUM.
Roldrage Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 49	Posted - 2012.07.05 10:01:00 - [29] - Quote Sohkar Adelis wrote: since nothing we actually accomplish in the beta will be transfered over, with the exception of AURUM. lots of BETA's do the same thing. Only thing that will carry over is your AURUM. And your Mercenary Pack equipment.
Ama Drake IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2012.07.05 12:45:00 - [30] - Quote Can you stack xp booster? Like have 3 50% going at the same time (150%).



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