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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:02:00 -
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I've seen a lot of misinformation about the nature of headshots on both the Scrambler Rifle and the Scrambler Pistol. I aim *hehe* to clear this up...
The headshot bonus on the Scrambler Pistol is exactly 375%. On the nose.
Compare this to the headshot bonus of most weapons, which is 150%. Weapons like the Rail Rifle, the SMG, the HMG, the Combat Rifle, the Ion Pistol and the Assault Rifle all do 150% headshot damage. I will confidently say that 150% is the standard headshot multiplier, as most weapons have this same multiplier.
The Scrambler Rifle does not have a boosted headshot multiplier. A lot of people seem to believe it does. It has the same 150% multiplier you would see on most weapons.
It has never had a boosted multiplier either. Since it was released, it was 150%, and it remained to this day.
Take this for whatever you will, I only want to clear up some misconceptions.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:05:00 -
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But but it has a charge mechanic and that's obviously OP because I was clack scout and it hurtz!
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:06:00 -
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I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the ScP has a headshot multiplier of 350% not 375%. |
Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:08:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the ScP has a headshot multiplier of 350% not 375%.
Nope. Its 375. I've done enough testing to know...
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:11:00 -
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And I suppose you've tested the Ion Pistol and confirmed it's 150% and not 250%, too?
I believe you are incorrect on both points. I base my assertions on the spreadsheet data that Rattati released with the sidearm balance hotfix. I have not tested it, but will.....
[edited to add: original thread is here (note: spreadsheet is no longer publicly available, but I have a copy)] |
CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:11:00 -
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Does the plasma cannon get a headshot bonus I wonder? I will have to test that next time I see a fat boy hacking something.
Would be nice to know as occasionally there is a walking brick that takes my plasma **** like a man!
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:14:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:And I suppose you've tested the Ion Pistol and confirmed it's 150% and not 250%, too?
I believe you are incorrect on both points. I base my assertions on the data that Rattati released with the balance hotfix. I have not tested it, but will.....
I might be wrong with the Ion Pistol...
Last time I ever really used it, which was before its latest buff, it was 150%.
But I can assure you the ScP has a 275% bonus.
Please, make my Opus pretty...
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TRULY ELITE
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:32:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:And I suppose you've tested the Ion Pistol and confirmed it's 150% and not 250%, too?
I believe you are incorrect on both points. I base my assertions on the data that Rattati released with the balance hotfix. I have not tested it, but will..... I might be wrong with the Ion Pistol... Last time I ever really used it, which was before its latest buff, it was 150%. And I don't remember that they buffed the Ion Pistol headshot damage... I thought they messed with the Bolt Pistol's multiplier. But I can assure you the ScP has a 375% bonus. Unless they changed that in the sidearm hotfix too...
Before the sidearm hotfix all sidearms but ScP had a 150% headshot multiplier however all of them got buffed to 250%+ including the Flaylock pistol |
LUGMOS
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:36:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Does the plasma cannon get a headshot bonus I wonder? I will have to test that next time I see a fat boy hacking something.
Would be nice to know as occasionally there is a walking brick that takes my plasma **** like a man!
Sadly, no. Even if it did, you'd have to be standing above someone to hit the head perfectly, otherwise it would register as a body shot. I've hit heads before, and no gong.
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Supernus Gigas
The Cooked Goose Coalition
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Posted - 2014.11.21 17:16:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Does the plasma cannon get a headshot bonus I wonder? I will have to test that next time I see a fat boy hacking something.
Would be nice to know as occasionally there is a walking brick that takes my plasma **** like a man! Sadly, no. Even if it did, you'd have to be standing above someone to hit the head perfectly, otherwise it would register as a body shot. I've hit heads before, and no gong.
Same with the Forge Gun too I think.
However I did get a headshot with a grenade once, that was a real wtf moment.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
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Posted - 2014.11.21 17:22:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Does the plasma cannon get a headshot bonus I wonder? I will have to test that next time I see a fat boy hacking something.
Would be nice to know as occasionally there is a walking brick that takes my plasma **** like a man! Sadly, no. Even if it did, you'd have to be standing above someone to hit the head perfectly, otherwise it would register as a body shot. I've hit heads before, and no gong.
Lol. It should have an infinite HS bonus. If you can crack off a direct headshot with a PLC you should be able to kill the hardest bricked suit possible.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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CommanderBolt
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Posted - 2014.11.21 17:49:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Does the plasma cannon get a headshot bonus I wonder? I will have to test that next time I see a fat boy hacking something.
Would be nice to know as occasionally there is a walking brick that takes my plasma **** like a man! Sadly, no. Even if it did, you'd have to be standing above someone to hit the head perfectly, otherwise it would register as a body shot. I've hit heads before, and no gong.
Ok so I just checked it out, the plasma cannon does indeed grant bonus damage for a headshot according to the -efficency- indicator at the bottom of the screen.
Against shield target with my skills it read I think 112% for a body shot, 162% or so for a headshot. (level 4 plc prof.)
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CharacterNameWasTaken
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Posted - 2014.11.21 17:55:00 -
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When did scp heasshots gwt reduced to 375 because ive always seen it at 419.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.21 18:01:00 -
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CharacterNameWasTaken wrote:When did scp heasshots gwt reduced to 375 because ive always seen it at 419.
You are probably taking into account the damage bonus against shielded targets. Remember the eff. numbers always show your skills and against what type of target they are facing.
So seeing as the scrambler pistol deals bonus shield damage, it might be that which is boosting the number if the target you are shooting at has his shields.
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:14:00 -
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ScP 410% (unskilled) headshot damage to shields.
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jace silencerww
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:17:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the ScP has a headshot multiplier of 350% not 375%. Nope. Its 375. I've done enough testing to know...
lol it is a shield weapon so on shields it is higher. my scr pistol is 463% on shield headshots. |
Lonewolf Heavy
Chaotic Company
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:19:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:LUGMOS wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Does the plasma cannon get a headshot bonus I wonder? I will have to test that next time I see a fat boy hacking something.
Would be nice to know as occasionally there is a walking brick that takes my plasma **** like a man! Sadly, no. Even if it did, you'd have to be standing above someone to hit the head perfectly, otherwise it would register as a body shot. I've hit heads before, and no gong. Lol. It should have an infinite HS bonus. If you can crack off a direct headshot with a PLC you should be able to kill the hardest bricked suit possible.
Note that the PLC does enough damage against a body shot to down 90% of heavies at base damage. Adding in proficiency, you down somewhere between 90-95% of heavies. Headshot damage should instant kill any infantry.
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:20:00 -
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jace silencerww wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the ScP has a headshot multiplier of 350% not 375%. Nope. Its 375. I've done enough testing to know... lol it is a shield weapon so on shields it is higher. my scr pistol is 463% on shield headshots.
I've taken that into account.
My scrambler pistol, with no proficiency, does 450% headshot damage to shields.
450/1.2=375 wow! such maths!
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:20:00 -
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Then the ScR headshot should be 375% like the ScP. It's the Amarr trademark
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:22:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Then the ScR headshot should be 375% like the ScP. It's the Amarr trademark
Lol.
As much as I would love this... We just can't have something that insanely OP.
The charged shots bro... the shieldmaidens would throw a fit.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:28:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:LUGMOS wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Does the plasma cannon get a headshot bonus I wonder? I will have to test that next time I see a fat boy hacking something.
Would be nice to know as occasionally there is a walking brick that takes my plasma **** like a man! Sadly, no. Even if it did, you'd have to be standing above someone to hit the head perfectly, otherwise it would register as a body shot. I've hit heads before, and no gong. Lol. It should have an infinite HS bonus. If you can crack off a direct headshot with a PLC you should be able to kill the hardest bricked suit possible.
Also the match should stop for 30 seconds while every bodies clones go into an applause animation while the the Shooter bows 
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Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:33:00 -
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Breach ScP is 457% (Against shields at least) It' makes me sad that I haven't used ScP's in so long that I've forgotten the other multipliers. Le Sigh... Well, time to go back and check things again.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
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Posted - 2014.11.21 20:19:00 -
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Lonewolf Heavy wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:LUGMOS wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Does the plasma cannon get a headshot bonus I wonder? I will have to test that next time I see a fat boy hacking something.
Would be nice to know as occasionally there is a walking brick that takes my plasma **** like a man! Sadly, no. Even if it did, you'd have to be standing above someone to hit the head perfectly, otherwise it would register as a body shot. I've hit heads before, and no gong. Lol. It should have an infinite HS bonus. If you can crack off a direct headshot with a PLC you should be able to kill the hardest bricked suit possible. Note that the PLC does enough damage against a body shot to down 90% of heavies at base damage. Adding in proficiency, you down somewhere between 90-95% of heavies. Headshot damage should instant kill any infantry.
Well, yes, but it should be 100%.
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Posted - 2014.11.21 20:25:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:CharacterNameWasTaken wrote:When did scp heasshots gwt reduced to 375 because ive always seen it at 419. You are probably taking into account the damage bonus against shielded targets. Remember the eff. numbers always show your skills and against what type of target they are facing. So seeing as the scrambler pistol deals bonus shield damage, it might be that which is boosting the number if the target you are shooting at has his shields.
OK yeah thx forgot about that.
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
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Posted - 2014.11.21 22:46:00 -
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Speaking of headshots, anyone else having trouble getting them on Commandos? Was trying to to counter snipe a calmando and just couldn't find a spot that didn't flicker back-n-forth between headshot & bodyshot and I even moved all over the map. Ended up 20 meters behind the dude and still couldn't get it.
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Sinboto Simmons
Bloodline Rebellion
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.11.21 23:16:00 -
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One of those threads I just need to back away from......
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.22 01:52:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Zindorak wrote:Then the ScR headshot should be 375% like the ScP. It's the Amarr trademark Lol. As much as I would love this... We just can't have something that insanely OP. The charged shots bro... the shieldmaidens would throw a fit.
oh yea i forgot how easly those things cry
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.11.22 02:00:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:I've seen a lot of misinformation about the nature of headshots on both the Scrambler Rifle and the Scrambler Pistol. I aim *hehe* to clear this up...
The headshot bonus on the Scrambler Pistol is exactly 375%. On the nose.
Compare this to the headshot bonus of most weapons, which is 150%. Weapons like the Rail Rifle, the SMG, the HMG, the Combat Rifle, and the Assault Rifle all do 150% headshot damage. I will confidently say that 150% is the standard headshot multiplier, as most weapons have this same multiplier.
The Scrambler Rifle does not have a boosted headshot multiplier. A lot of people seem to believe it does. It has the same 150% multiplier you would see on most weapons.
It has never had a boosted multiplier either. Since it was released, it was 150%, and it remained to this day.
Take this for whatever you will, I only want to clear up some misconceptions.
indeed scramblers are devistating if you can get a HS but by no means do they auto track to the head
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