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Edgar Reinhart wrote:

I think a lot of it comes down to having a small player base and that the best veteran players all tend to gravitate together as they are in well formed, organised corporations/ chat/ comms. ie. oh look x, y, and z are all online tonight, how you guys doing lets squad up.

This means that at any one time there are a limited number of 'good' squads online. Unless two of these squads happen to queue up at the same time for the same game mode on the same server the chances of them meeting each other are probably actually quite small.

Therefore Scotty adds the squad to one team, works his way down the list, and then even having filled up the entire other team with available players hasn't managed to equal the same mu score of the original veteran squad..... but still has to add other players into their team too. Hence the stomping.

I agree though that sometimes it goes completely off the rails and you end up with something like a full squad of 1UP and a squad of Italian Hunters against a deeply frustrated vet and a bunch of blueberrys like myself.

I can only assume that what happens here is either Scotty has a sadistic side or maybe matches up one all available players in the queue and then the last squad joins late so they just get added to the empty slot without moving all the other players around first.

I've also said before that I think there is something funny in the idea of balancing the match purely on mu and therefore you could end up with a vet protostomper having to solo it against a team of 16 fresh faced recruits.

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Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2032	Posted - 2014.11.20 23:52:00 - [1] - Quote just been doing a half dozen of pubs and they were most always onesided not a decent fight in any of them.. did Mu get broken or something? [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6045	Posted - 2014.11.20 23:56:00 - [2] - Quote I think it exists, and the system just isn't working as intended. It kind of undermines what the devs are trying to do with balance when Scotty makes ridiculously out of balance games. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2032	Posted - 2014.11.21 00:02:00 - [3] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I think it exists, and the system just isn't working as intended. It kind of undermines what the devs are trying to do with balance when Scotty makes ridiculously out of balance games. its pathetic.. wait like an hour or so for fw or get a terrible scrubby one sided pub game.. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Operative 1174 Uuali the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 105	Posted - 2014.11.21 00:12:00 - [4] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: just been doing a half dozen of pubs and they were most always onesided not a decent fight in any of them.. did Mu get broken or something? Doesn't match teams. It organizes a team. Other team is still squading, comming and stomping. No place for people looking for casual fun. Apparently, games like this are for young boys to measure their c*cks before their balls drop. CCP is catering to a very, very slim demographic and it is showing. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 697	Posted - 2014.11.21 00:22:00 - [5] - Quote Yup MU seems death now *"In the rust we trust"*
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5307	Posted - 2014.11.21 00:23:00 - [6] - Quote MU doesn't account for pu$$ies I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6047	Posted - 2014.11.21 00:23:00 - [7] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: just been doing a half dozen of pubs and they were most always onesided not a decent fight in any of them.. did Mu get broken or something? Doesn't match teams. It organizes a team. Other team is still squading, comming and stomping. No place for people looking for casual fun. Apparently, games like this are for young boys to measure their c*cks before their balls drop. CCP is catering to a very, very slim demographic and it is showing. Rattati did say that the system was intended to place corp squads opposite one another. Often that doesn't happen. Sometimes there are even 2 corp squads against randoms. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2033	Posted - 2014.11.21 00:43:00 - [8] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: just been doing a half dozen of pubs and they were most always onesided not a decent fight in any of them.. did Mu get broken or something? Doesn't match teams. It organizes a team. Other team is still squading, comming and stomping. No place for people looking for casual fun. Apparently, games like this are for young boys to measure their c*cks before their balls drop. CCP is catering to a very, very slim demographic and it is showing. Rattati did say that the system was intended to place corp squads opposite one another. Often that doesn't happen. Sometimes there are even 2 corp squads against randoms. i hope rattatti can fix it cause i would have thought it had gotten better after a fornight in FW but no, pub matches are still more onesided then anything [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 8554	Posted - 2014.11.21 02:47:00 - [9] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: just been doing a half dozen of pubs and they were most always onesided not a decent fight in any of them.. did Mu get broken or something? Doesn't match teams. It organizes a team. Other team is still squading, comming and stomping. No place for people looking for casual fun. Apparently, games like this are for young boys to measure their c*cks before their balls drop. CCP is catering to a very, very slim demographic and it is showing. I'd like to invite you to EVE where you won't have a chance of survival and the age demographic is much higher than DUST's. CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14914	Posted - 2014.11.21 02:52:00 - [10] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: just been doing a half dozen of pubs and they were most always onesided not a decent fight in any of them.. did Mu get broken or something? Doesn't match teams. It organizes a team. Other team is still squading, comming and stomping. No place for people looking for casual fun. Apparently, games like this are for young boys to measure their ccks before their balls drop. CCP is catering to a very, very slim demographic and it is showing. I'd like to invite you to EVE where you won't have a chance of survival and the age demographic is much higher than DUST's. On fleet comms I think I'm usually the youngest one there at 22 and when we get dunked by a smarter, more organised, more numerous fleet grouping the only thing I tend to hear is self critique on what we can do better and a general "GG". For all the crap EVE players get touted as sociopaths .....they're significantly more mature than this player base and accept their game is fundamentally not fair. I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this. Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...*

DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5998	Posted - 2014.11.21 02:52:00 - [11] - Quote I'm pretty sure that connection triumphs over ++ as it should. Which means you get matched up with people with the best connection relative to you even if your ++'s are different. Which is really for the best; since ++ means nothing if you have a noticeable amount of latency. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5307	Posted - 2014.11.21 03:07:00 - [12] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: just been doing a half dozen of pubs and they were most always onesided not a decent fight in any of them.. did Mu get broken or something? Doesn't match teams. It organizes a team. Other team is still squading, comming and stomping. No place for people looking for casual fun. Apparently, games like this are for young boys to measure their c*cks before their balls drop. CCP is catering to a very, very slim demographic and it is showing. I'd like to invite you to EVE where you won't have a chance of survival and the age demographic is much higher than DUST's. On fleet comms I think I'm usually the youngest one there at 22 and when we get dunked by a smarter, more organised, more numerous fleet grouping the only thing I tend to hear is self critique on what we can do better and a general "GG". For all the crap EVE players get touted as sociopaths .....they're significantly more mature than this player base and accept their game is fundamentally not fair. Could you imagine a player like the OP going onto the Eve forums and whining like he does here? I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14915	Posted - 2014.11.21 03:15:00 - [13] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: just been doing a half dozen of pubs and they were most always onesided not a decent fight in any of them.. did Mu get broken or something? Doesn't match teams. It organizes a team. Other team is still squading, comming and stomping. No place for people looking for casual fun. Apparently, games like this are for young boys to measure their ccks before their balls drop. CCP is catering to a very, very slim demographic and it is showing. I'd like to invite you to EVE where you won't have a chance of survival and the age demographic is much higher than DUST's. On fleet comms I think I'm usually the youngest one there at 22 and when we get dunked by a smarter, more organised, more numerous fleet grouping the only thing I tend to hear is self critique on what we can do better and a general "GG". For all the crap EVE players get touted as sociopaths .....they're significantly more mature than this player base and accept their game is fundamentally not fair. Could you imagine a player like the OP going onto the Eve forums and whining like he does here? Ass Reaming inbound! Hell I am almost unwilling to post there because of this reason. I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this. Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...*
A Sassy BlackWoman Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2014.11.21 03:23:00 - [14] - Quote If you ain't runnin' in a squad honey child, you best believe you be in for a hurtin'! Hi Mu is like the devil himself for solo cats. Best be stickin' to strength in numbers if you don' want no marks on yo backside OP!!!
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 4653	Posted - 2014.11.21 04:18:00 - [15] - Quote Mu is CCP's way of telling you, "Run with a squad to screw with the system, or prepare to get slaughtered."
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2035	Posted - 2014.11.21 07:03:00 - [16] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: just been doing a half dozen of pubs and they were most always onesided not a decent fight in any of them.. did Mu get broken or something? Doesn't match teams. It organizes a team. Other team is still squading, comming and stomping. No place for people looking for casual fun. Apparently, games like this are for young boys to measure their c*cks before their balls drop. CCP is catering to a very, very slim demographic and it is showing. I'd like to invite you to EVE where you won't have a chance of survival and the age demographic is much higher than DUST's. i personally play eve too and with deep intricate kknowledge one could say "eve is easy" [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2035	Posted - 2014.11.21 07:04:00 - [17] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: just been doing a half dozen of pubs and they were most always onesided not a decent fight in any of them.. did Mu get broken or something? Doesn't match teams. It organizes a team. Other team is still squading, comming and stomping. No place for people looking for casual fun. Apparently, games like this are for young boys to measure their c*cks before their balls drop. CCP is catering to a very, very slim demographic and it is showing. I'd like to invite you to EVE where you won't have a chance of survival and the age demographic is much higher than DUST's. On fleet comms I think I'm usually the youngest one there at 22 and when we get dunked by a smarter, more organised, more numerous fleet grouping the only thing I tend to hear is self critique on what we can do better and a general "GG". For all the crap EVE players get touted as sociopaths .....they're significantly more mature than this player base and accept their game is fundamentally not fair. Could you imagine a player like the OP going onto the Eve forums and whining like he does here? i do play eve, however in eve i have more things to do so less need to BS on the forums [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
jane stalin Ametat Security Amarr Empire 17	Posted - 2014.11.21 07:23:00 - [18] - Quote I think Mu has to produce broken matches I will say it again I think Mu has to produce broken matches Why? Lots of players will spend at least some of time as AFKers and this makes Scotty think they are totally ****.
STYLIE77 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 267	Posted - 2014.11.21 07:41:00 - [19] - Quote In my pub matches today I created a squad and imo had some of the best match making I have seen in weeks today. FW will not match make properly due to you picking a team. Pubs is where you judge the MU based matchmaking effectiveness... not FW. I played about 12 matches of Dom, only saw one redline fest. Otherwise there was a lot of very intense games, my blue dots were veterans and they pushed hard. Totally opposite of my experience when queing solo... I lost a few games, but didn't feel bad due to how close they were.
Ablerober Pretty Violence 201	Posted - 2014.11.21 08:06:00 - [20] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: just been doing a half dozen of pubs and they were most always onesided not a decent fight in any of them.. did Mu get broken or something? I played a few decent pub games last night on the US servers. From the boards it looked like two teams of randoms in every game which is perfect for a solo player. With the player base as small as it is, you are bound to run into the same tryhards eventually - but yesterday was an exception. - Officer weapons x 3 (Bon's shotgun) which I quickly sold. Kind regards.

Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2037	Posted - 2014.11.21 08:07:00 - [21] - Quote STYLIE77 wrote: In my pub matches today I created a squad and imo had some of the best match making I have seen in weeks today. FW will not match make properly due to you picking a team. Pubs is where you judge the MU based matchmaking effectiveness... not FW. I played about 12 matches of Dom, only saw one redline fest. Otherwise there was a lot of very intense games, my blue dots were veterans and they pushed hard. Totally opposite of my experience when queing solo... I lost a few games, but didn't feel bad due to how close they were. thats a good point.. why does it seem that vets(blueberrys) seem to get put more with squads(you) instead of on the opposing teams to balance the Mu more? atleast pub should be casual friendly and not have a totally nessesary need to squad up JUST for a non stomp game [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2038	Posted - 2014.11.21 08:09:00 - [22] - Quote Ablerober wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: just been doing a half dozen of pubs and they were most always onesided not a decent fight in any of them.. did Mu get broken or something? I played a few decent pub games last night on the US servers. From the boards it looked like two teams of randoms in every game which is perfect for a solo player. With the player base as small as it is, you are bound to run into the same tryhards eventually - but yesterday was an exception. - Officer weapons x 3 (Bon's shotgun) which I quickly sold. Kind regards. +1 for selling those scrub weapons [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution 1192	Posted - 2014.11.21 08:51:00 - [23] - Quote lol to anyone thinking there is matchmaking in FW. Amarrica! killed again has ebola
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5308	Posted - 2014.11.21 09:07:00 - [24] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Mu is CCP's way of telling you, "Run with a squad to screw with the system, or prepare to get slaughtered." Or play in a squad and get every window licker on your team I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2038	Posted - 2014.11.21 09:19:00 - [25] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Joel II X wrote: Mu is CCP's way of telling you, "Run with a squad to screw with the system, or prepare to get slaughtered." Or play in a squad and get every window licker on your team seems i get windowlicking potatos when i solo.. but im a logi so my mu cannot be THAT powerful [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5314	Posted - 2014.11.21 13:07:00 - [26] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: STYLIE77 wrote: In my pub matches today I created a squad and imo had some of the best match making I have seen in weeks today. FW will not match make properly due to you picking a team. Pubs is where you judge the MU based matchmaking effectiveness... not FW. I played about 12 matches of Dom, only saw one redline fest. Otherwise there was a lot of very intense games, my blue dots were veterans and they pushed hard. Totally opposite of my experience when queing solo... I lost a few games, but didn't feel bad due to how close they were. thats a good point.. why does it seem that vets(blueberrys) seem to get put more with squads(you) instead of on the opposing teams to balance the Mu more? atleast pub should be casual friendly and not have a totally nessesary need to squad up JUST for a non stomp game Last night I lost like 15 matches in a row while in a squad. I actually left our squad and jumped in another squad in a match with us to get on their comms just to find out what the point of playing Dust was if not to at least simulate playing a FPS. It seems like everyone has a different experience, but I seem to ALWAYS be stuck with idiots. It needs a tweak that's for sure. I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 2654	Posted - 2014.11.21 13:21:00 - [27] - Quote I am matched with very good players... go figure!... Dust Loyalist *Greedy Bastards*
Clone D Grundstein Automation 855	Posted - 2014.11.21 13:24:00 - [28] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: just been doing a half dozen of pubs and they were most always onesided not a decent fight in any of them.. did Mu get broken or something? I actually wrote a program to realistically simulate mu in the Dust environment with approximately the same number of player base, number of players per match, varying levels of skill, etc. Mu actually does work to eventually separate out the good players from the bad. The only problem is that you only start to see the sieve effect at about 200 iterations (per player), so unless ALL players pass the 200 match mark we will still see a huge jumble of skilled/unskilled players thrown together in matches. In a system where there are consistently new players, the new players won't have a mu that reflects their skill and they will get put into matches with more advanced players. I agree with you that matchmaking is broken, but that could also be due to our small player base. There are only so many people on at the same time, and of those people only so many are searching for matches simultaneously, so I'm guessing that Scotty just scoops up the current peeps searching, sorts them by mu takes the top 16 for each side and sends them on their way. Unfortunately, due to small player base, that top 16 for each side could range from beginner to master. ISK Trader channel: blitz
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 699	Posted - 2014.11.21 13:28:00 - [29] - Quote Nope i remember the time when even "lonely wolf" matches were balanced under MUs reign. But it seems something is with algorytm or im to OP (what is honestly nonsence - mostly with not much killing skill), because its kicking me to UP band mostly. *"In the rust we trust"*
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2043	Posted - 2014.11.21 13:29:00 - [30] - Quote Clone D wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: just been doing a half dozen of pubs and they were most always onesided not a decent fight in any of them.. did Mu get broken or something? I actually wrote a program to realistically simulate mu in the Dust environment with approximately the same number of player base, number of players per match, varying levels of skill, etc. Mu actually does work to eventually separate out the good players from the bad. The only problem is that you only start to see the sieve effect at about 200 iterations (per player), so unless ALL players pass the 200 match mark we will still see a huge jumble of skilled/unskilled players thrown together in matches. In a system where there are consistently new players, the new players won't have a mu that reflects their skill and they will get put into matches with more advanced players. I agree with you that matchmaking is broken, but that could also be due to our small player base. There are only so many people on at the same time, and of those people only so many are searching for matches simultaneously, so I'm guessing that Scotty just scoops up the current peeps searching, sorts them by mu takes the top 16 for each side and sends them on their way. Unfortunately, due to small player base, that top 16 for each side could range from beginner to master. 200 matches on the NEW Mu system? or total overall? but yeah.. the more one sided stomps seem to happen as it approaches prime time and during prime.. during offpeak it dosnt seem to be as onesided [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7

Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2043	Posted - 2014.11.21 13:30:00 - [31] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: Nope i remember the time when even "lonely wolf" matches were balanced under MUs reign. But it seems something is with algorytm or im to OP (what is honestly nonsence - mostly with not much killing skill), because its kicking me to UP band mostly. But hey i have still some ISKies and SP/LP. Its still game, little broken now, still game. i dont squad that much in pub but i alway sseem to go against higher tier/proto/squads more often :/ [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Edgar Reinhart Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2014.11.21 13:39:00 - [32] - Quote I think a lot of it comes down to having a small player base and that the best veteran players all tend to gravitate together as they are in well formed, organised corporations/ chat/ comms. ie. oh look x, y, and z are all online tonight, how you guys doing lets squad up. This means that at any one time there are a limited number of 'good' squads online. Unless two of these squads happen to queue up at the same time for the same game mode on the same server the chances of them meeting each other are probably actually quite small. Therefore Scotty adds the squad to one team, works his way down the list, and then even having filled up the entire other team with available players hasn't managed to equal the same mu score of the original veteran squad..... but still has to add other players into their team too. Hence the stomping. I agree though that sometimes it goes completely off the rails and you end up with something like a full squad of 1UP and a squad of Italian Hunters against a deeply frustrated vet and a bunch of blueberrys like myself. I can only assume that what happens here is either Scotty has a sadistic side or maybe matches up one all available players in the queue and then the last squad joins late so they just get added to the empty slot without moving all the other players around first. I've also said before that I think there is something funny in the idea of balancing the match purely on mu and therefore you could end up with a vet protostomper having to solo it against a team of 16 fresh faced recruits.
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 699	Posted - 2014.11.21 13:41:00 - [33] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: postapo wastelander wrote: Nope i remember the time when even "lonely wolf" matches were balanced under MUs reign. But it seems something is with algorytm or im to OP (what is honestly nonsence - mostly with not much killing skill), because its kicking me to UP band mostly. But hey i have still some ISKies and SP/LP. Its still game, little broken now, still game. i dont squad that much in pub but i alway sseem to go against higher tier/proto/squads more often :/ Mostly same with me, hell i thing the MU is broken. I remember time when they implement him and fights were quite balanced. Now i can see one sided matches again. I dont know. *"In the rust we trust"*
Ryme Intrinseca Dead Man's Game RUST415 2058	Posted - 2014.11.21 13:45:00 - [34] - Quote Not worth playing solo if you have a high Mu, the teams are almost always heavily stacked against you and the blues are 50-100 clones behind by the time they lose.
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 699	Posted - 2014.11.21 13:50:00 - [35] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Not worth playing solo if you have a high Mu, the teams are almost always heavily stacked against you and the blues are 50-100 clones behind by the time they lose. Thats the problem, i dont have "hi mu" i basicaly suck big time in shooting and thats reason why im mostly in second wave like support. In FW im squaded up, but in PCs im sometimes soloing and thats time when MU mostly hate me *"In the rust we trust"*
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2044	Posted - 2014.11.21 14:22:00 - [36] - Quote Edgar Reinhart wrote: I think a lot of it comes down to having a small player base and that the best veteran players all tend to gravitate together as they are in well formed, organised corporations/ chat/ comms. ie. oh look x, y, and z are all online tonight, how you guys doing lets squad up. This means that at any one time there are a limited number of 'good' squads online. Unless two of these squads happen to queue up at the same time for the same game mode on the same server the chances of them meeting each other are probably actually quite small. Therefore Scotty adds the squad to one team, works his way down the list, and then even having filled up the entire other team with available players hasn't managed to equal the same mu score of the original veteran squad..... but still has to add other players into their team too. Hence the stomping. I agree though that sometimes it goes completely off the rails and you end up with something like a full squad of 1UP and a squad of Italian Hunters against a deeply frustrated vet and a bunch of blueberrys like myself. I can only assume that what happens here is either Scotty has a sadistic side or maybe matches up one all available players in the queue and then the last squad joins late so they just get added to the empty slot without moving all the other players around first. I've also said before that I think there is something funny in the idea of balancing the match purely on mu and therefore you could end up with a vet protostomper having to solo it against a team of 16 fresh faced recruits. so in laymans terms.. not enough people.. so scotty is filling matches with what he can regardless of Mu [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2044	Posted - 2014.11.21 14:24:00 - [37] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Not worth playing solo if you have a high Mu, the teams are almost always heavily stacked against you and the blues are 50-100 clones behind by the time they lose. Thats the problem, i dont have "hi mu" i basicaly suck big time in shooting and thats reason why im mostly in second wave like support. In FW im squaded up, but in PCs im sometimes soloing and thats time when MU mostly hate me heh yeah i mostly solo in pubs too tho sometimes i join a squad or just hotdrop a squad for the extra points per action performed. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7


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