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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:31:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:First off, Put the proper time and effort into Fixing Needles.
You have effectively killed it and removed an entire part of the game that could of been great.
I Have spent two years posting about Needles. I Have posts with thousands of likes regarding -1 death from needle use.
Logis are fine with a WP cap over time for reviving, everyone is fine with it.
Removing an entire part of the game instead of building and adding to it... IS going backwards.
I Hate "I Told you So's" But there are hundreds of times now that I have given CCP plenty of forward warning about purposed changes that will hurt the game and they went ahead and screwed themselves anyway.
IS there a point to feedback if a Developers mind is already closed?
Fixing needles? what's wrong with them?
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:32:00 -
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John Psi wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:[quote=John Psi]Your suggested solution of having equipment die when the person who places them dies will mean that every member of the team will have to quip Uplinks all the time, just to insure there are always uplinks up. No one would play logi, because the only effective way to keep your Uplinks up after you placed them would be to withdraw from the fight. No team wants to be down a man, so Logi would be useless in PC. Absolutley correct. Logi has no place in combat, since losing the efficiency over for asault/scout/etc. Nobody wants to lose better fighter in pursuit of efficiency, it makes logi stupid suit for battlefield preparation. You can remove his rifle - he does not need. Once equpment drop - play Mario.
Yeah no, I disagree...but if you go spawn in as a heavy..yeah all dat logi equipment say bye bye.
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:41:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
Yeah no, I disagree...but if you go spawn in as a heavy..yeah all dat logi equipment say bye bye.
this dosnt matter.. its just stupid... if equipment were to expire when a logi died (which is goddamned often due to being slow/low ehp/yellow will just make EVERYONE persecute logi even more meaning NO ONE even die hard logi like myself would want to play logi anymore.[/quote]
If you spawn back in a logi suit...your equipment should persist from the previous life.
if you spawn in an assault...equipment from your previous logi life should pop until you get down to your current suits allotted bandwidth.
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:46:00 -
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Minime Al wrote:
In team they ok. Solo - they useless.
Why?
People don't wait for them?
People don't use them?
I mean...there's plenty of things that are going to get used less in pubs vs a team environment. (you know how often i notice a person with hack modules on?)
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:52:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:A couple points about some of this.
Scouts with two slots aka the scout logi: This is rarely used to deploy equipment at logistic levels. They will still use a rep tool and needles just as well as any non minmatar logi, or the same with uplinks with any non amarr logi. I don't see any change here. The only deployable they spam are R.Es, which has its own major issues.
Quality: Then there must be a decrease in high tier equipment prices. Proto equiment, especially nano hives are tremendously expensive both in terms of PG/CPU and isk.
In PC it's much more conducive to run a scout with 2 links than a logi because scanning immunity means you can operate unimpeded and you're much quicker about it. Scouts are the logi's of the competitive scene.
The barbershop often says a scanned scout is a dead scout
In PC...a scanned anything is a dead anything unless you're a blob or a heavy
I seriously believe ether logi's should just get another 25% buff to fitting equipment. Equipment fitting costs should be one of the incentives to running a logi suit.
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.18 20:11:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote: Cross Atu wrote:
With respect Fox being suck playing a suit with bandwidth if you want to have equipment deployed at any given level is exactly the point.
There has been a lot of talk about a nerf to heavies, hmgs, or both, because of "heavy spam". However it is the current game and map meta not the class balance which feeds this proliferation of heavies. The Sentinel frame has zero equipment slots using depot/spawn swap as is currently possible gets around one of the fundamental drawbacks built into the frame and adds to the excessive proliferation of Sentinels on the field because if you can provide your own deployable support, gain scout level eWar from a friendly scout on the field, and use a LAV or DS for mobility the question effectively becomes why not use a Sentinel?
The context which creates that last question needs addressed both for diversity of game play and for the preservation of the Sentinel role itself.
0.02 ISK Cross
On the contrary, Heavy proliferation started when they got an inadvertent buff in 1.8 when all weapons -besides- HMGs received a 10% damage nerf and Proficiency was changed. The HMG had a really good balance in 1.7 due to the implementation of proper spread and increased rate-of-fire (which sky rocketed it's DPS) but that balance was upset when it's DPS was left alone by comparison of it's competition. If HMGs received a DPS nerf to compensate for what the rest of us are dealing with, I think it'd establish a good balance. More-so then heat mitigation gameplay ever will. Talking 5%, 10% at most. It's not something we couldn't undo if it wound up being problematic either but experimenting with heat mitigation every hotfix clearly isn't warranting enough of an impact. Again, as previously stated elsewhere, the problem isn't so much the one heavy as ten heavies stacking on top of one another. That is something heat mitigation will never fix.
THIS
HMG's were much more balanced in 1.7 because of damage mods...proficiency...and the increased damage rifles did.
We NEED to nerf the HMG back a bit.
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.19 01:56:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:According to my understanding of the system, the statement above is false. In actuality, ifI start the match as a Logi with 24Bw (For the sake of argument) and use up all of my bandwidth to put down equipment in the order -
- Flux Uplink
- Gauged Uplink
- Triage Nanohive
- Remote explosive
- then when I switch suits, my equipment will be destroyed in reverse order until I reach my new suit's bandwidth. That is to say that I would still have an active Flux and Gauged uplink on the field, but no nanohive or remote explosive. Thus, no one is being "shoe-horned" into a role. If you plan on making dynamic changes to your loadout, then plan your equipment deployment carefully. For the sake of opening more options, I could agree with a module that increases a suits Bw (up to a maximum suit value of 24) so that players who wish to sacrifice something to keep their equipment alive in a different suit would also have recourse to do so
Except it'd be oldest equipment popping first.
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
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