Equipment spam is a necessary evil and it isn't as common as other exploits. Move the supply depot at the gallente research facilty and BAM, 90% of all cases of equipment spam are gone. The gallente lag facility is the only place i consistently see people do this.

Meanwhile I see frisbee REs all the time.

cloaked shotgun scouts literally every match.

Suit switching at supply depots frequently.

and Spawn camping.

All of these could be fixed. We even had a client side update in which none of these things where fixed, in fact the things that where supposed to be fixed weren't fixed!

Anyway, particularly with uplinks quantity is far superior to quality. Here is why:

1. scouts infest the map: there are no clear battle lines because scouts can be invisible on the radar of most suits permanently and relatively unnoticeable due to cloaks (especially in the heat of battle with visible enemies) for extended periods of time. They sneak and destroy equipment that would otherwise survive. The most undetectable suits in the game are also the fastest, equipment is easy to see and easy to scan. All it takes is a single melee hit to destroy it.

2. Logi suits suck to the point they cannot defend their own equipment. If by some miracle a logi wins a fight in which they cannot run away and likely had to reload their gun all that their opponent needs to do is throw a grenade or RE and the equipment is indefensible. So really an enemy hardly needs to engage a logi at all if their goal is only to destroy equipment.

3. Large quantities of uplinks are the only way for a logi prevent a speedy redline if your team isn't as capable competitively. You like the sort of matches where neither team can gain any ground on the other and everyone fights really hard? Thank equipment spam for that. Keeping player's ammo full and allowing a team to respawn in time that all the links aren't destroyed.

Really if one wants to reduce the necessity of uplink spam, reduce spawn time.

also equipment spam doesn't cause lag, so can someone answer? What is the reason to implement this? Just cuz? The maps too blue for people? Do scouts need another edge over logistics suits? Did someone put an uplink by Rattati's uplink while he was shotgun scouting? What is it?

#63Posted: 2014.11.27 21:43 | Report
True Adamance wrote:

However you have yet to suggest why the logistics player should gain the benefit of using their suit, switching to another, and continuing to have personal and team wide benefits despite being a completely different role.


My response:

Every suit has this ability to varying degrees already...the uplinks you placed in the perfect spot as a scout remain, correct? Even with bandwidth applied those uplinks will likely still be active when that scout switches to his Six Kin HMG fit then back to his cloak shotgunner fit a few minutes later. Effectively every suit can enjoy the benefits you describe while being in a different role and switch roles with near impunity. I for one actually think that is a strength of the game.

The issue is the scale or capacity for spam that logi suits have seem to be the point of contention you bring up. There is no way to impact that without a negative impact on Logi suits short of a dramatic revision of how equipment works in the game. Perhaps the idea of squad bandwidth might level things out...it's honestly difficult to tell.

There are numerous variables that are difficult to sort through to try and find an optimal solution in regards to equipment spam. Logi suits desperately need significant redesign already and perhaps bandwidth can be a positive factor but it can't simply be another constraint that they carry the lionshare of the consequences on.

One thing i do know about Dust is that nothing scales well. Two scouts add flavor and variety to a team and added tactical challenge to an opponent but 13 of them on one team is broken. The same can be said for heavies, vehicles, and apparently equipment.

Is this really THAT difficult to comprehend?