Dear Players

Based on a lot of feedback, both from CPM, Community and previous CCP designs, one of the things we are able to conjure up is the much wanted Equipment Bandwidth feature.

* We want to fix Equipment spam to increase framerate
* We want Quality over Quantity Equipment gameplay
* We want a solid Logistics progression at using Equipment
* We want Logistics to excel at using Equipment, and other roles less so
* We want Equipment diversity

Now, we want to get your feedback as early as possible, so chime in. But here are some clarifications of intent.

Equipment Limit
The main design is primarily based off of Drones in EVE.

Every dropsuit has a built-in Equipment Controller, which has a certain Bandwidth Capacity (in MHz). That Controller Bandwidth is used to manage deployed Equipment through constant signaling.

Each piece of deployed Equipment has a different Bandwidth Cost (or Usage). Note that all Equipment still has the same current limitations of GÇPdeployed per typeGÇ£.

Obviously Logistics are made for this purpose, and some Logistics more than others.

In the case of deployed Equipment Bandwidth exceeding the Players current Bandwidth, deployed Equipment self-destructs instantly, in the sequence it was deployed. In the attached spreadsheet, we show an example of such a scenario.

This feature will allow proper Logistics to excel at their deployment role, while keeping Assaults & Commandos relatively useful and Scouts will be diminished in capability as they were never meant to be a king of deployables, the additional slot was added for the Cloak Field.

Quality over Quantity
We want players to use the best Equipment they have at their disposal. ThatGÇÖs why Bandwidth will not increase with item tiers. We also have the capability and intent to reduce Scan Profile with tiers, so Advanced and Complex gear is not as easy to scan. However, this also allows us to increase the carried amount, for rapid redeployment. Spawn first Nanohive and Drop Uplink at point A, redeploy to Objective B, spawn second Nanohive and Drop Uplink, and so on. Stay out of trouble and you wonGÇÖt need to switch or restock for quite some time.

Progression
Logistics will have the, by far, the highest Bandwidth, with Caldari and Amarr the highest. We may need to reword or change some of their role bonuses. Bandwith progression will follow the Equipment slot progression so a Logistics player can almost always use their full allotment of deployable Equipment.

Logistics vs other Dropsuits
One of the key aspects of this proposal is that all Equipment is tied to the active Dropsuit of the Player. Switch from a suit with a high Bandwidth to another suit with lower Bandwidth, and the signal is lost. This means that starting as a Logistics dropsuit, throw down as much cheap Equipment as possible, then switch into another Logistics dropsuit at a Supply Depot, repeat and then finally switch into another role, Sentinel, Scout, Assault or Commando, will not be possible anymore.

Diversity
We can now influence players to use more Proximity Mines for example, as Scan Profile will allow them to be hidden from low Precision Vehicle Players, as well as having a lower Bandwidth Cost, allowing more at the same time, without allowing more Uplinks and Nanohives. Extra damage wouldnGÇÖt hurt either.

Now, to the numbers found in this spreadsheet. Please remember that these numbers are placeholders, and are definitely up for debate so form your arguments for changes into clear and concise statements.

Please read the Example as well, it should explain the whole design clearly.

Again, your feedback and input is appreciated.

Prove me wrong

- reduce RE bw isn't equal increase scout bw. Scout still has the lowest ability to deploy equipment.
- AV is for every suit. AV RE is suit scout because it require low profile and ability to run fast.
- I dare you run assault to stack 3 RE on a proper tank without him notice and run away.

1.Medium frame suits don't run fast enough to get in close to Tanks without being slaughtered. They can do it sometimes, but not as reliably as Scouts can. Placing REs on Tanks is really not an Assault or Logi role.



2.By saying this you are simply dismissing every concern about Bandwidth as just Spammer QQ. If we assume out of hand that there are no problems at all with the Bandwidth proposal, and it requires no critical examination or discussion, then what was the point of Rattati posting it on the Forums in the first place?

Well........It takes out the flexibility u have been offered in this game.Now this makes heavies rely almost 90% on team members as they cant place an uplink on a desired place . So if u have a team of noobs then the match is dead.

Now all u can do is either play a slayer logi(difficult to) or dont use logi suits at all....bcoz if u use once in a game then to make advantage of it u shud wear it throught the game irrespective of circumstances..

I still think that low HP scouts should be able to speed tank effectively, as if they make a mistake they die instantly. That is why I like having a Strafe penalty attached to Armor Plate modules rather than the Scout suit.

1. Agreed...but you can keep your deployables if you do have bandwidth right? One or two slots worth depending on suit. The cost of switching to suits is exorbitantly higher for the logi with no upside. Losing one or two ammo hives does not in anyway equate to losing a full rack of proto uplinks, ammo hives and triage hives.

2. Agreed.

3. Never said that it did. I heard some folks kicking that around as an alternative and mentioned it, thats all.

Also, there is no getting around that if you want to address equipment spam you have to apply hard nerfs to logi suits....which then further undercut a role already being left behind in the dust.

My biggest concern is that BW width will go in and we still won't have a rework for the logi suits in hand. If BW (which i still think is a poor idea) goes in...or rather when it goes in, it MUST be either after the logi suit rework or in conjunction with it.

With no dev feedback for over 10 days I'm guessing they're not interested in community responses or ideas that aren't in line with the original post.