First off scouts "ScoutGÇÖs Core Role" is not nor ever intended to be AV. This was just a mere side effect of them getting the extra equipment slot. They got this slot so they could fit a cloak, place an uplink, or whip out the scanner to light up the area for the squad. Then they also got all the ewar as well and their passive scans made the active scanner pointless for a scout to carry. *edit* with the recent/soon cloak fixes will see less desirability of the cloak.

I do agree with everything else you posted and really agree with plates reducing strafe speed is needed as a small step to unf*****g the battlefield balance. Strafing across the field needs serious work period. Scout speed tanking should be viable but this matrix bullet dodging and hopping above a grenade/MD rounds needs to be brought down some.

We do not have enough people per match to start locking people into set roles.

only 16 players means you need to be able to switch to the role that is needed. The only reason I support this is because it somewhat nerfs scout logis but it does not address the issue of scout medics who are keeping everyone alive as well as lighting up the entire enemy team.

TL;DR The real issue is at best partially getting fixed so I am done even trying to give input that will never be seen. Fix scout logis before you try to nerf already **** logi suits.


@CCP STOP LISTENING TO THE DAMN FORUMS. You can join any channel and there will be plenty of players there to give you issues and ideas. This would go much further as half the forum trolls dont play more than one match a week anyway. How much AUR does a dev token cost? I would be glad to pay for his 2 hours of time to sit in one of our channels with a few selected players to give an informed opinion of **** in this game.

This has already happened, and the proof is in the rampant imbalances allowed to persist continually with little to no improvement that doesn't simultaneously degrade other game elements.

Just want to add, from the perspective of someone who uses re's on a scout to take out vehicles, I generally find most HAV's need 4 re's to make certain they pop.

Rattati...quick point on this. It does limit the tactical flexibility players have when they get painted into a corner (i.e. perhaps too steep a cost for switching roles in the match). The ability to adapt mid-game between suits / fits ect is at least for me a major positive of the game and this may induce too steep a penalty.

Consider this...quite a few dedicated Logi players also play Sentinel as well. Imagine dropping a couple uplinks and seeding your nanohives and if it looks like the enemy push is gaining momentum you switch to your heavy hmg and poof...the hardpoint you had set up to support your team is gone.

That said, I do generally like the idea of bandwidth and the thought process of deriving it from EVE. I think it's also key to remember that in EVE you don't die (i.e. lose ships) nearly on the same scale as Dust. Also, when you die in EVE the drones still stay in space and don't die with you. I think with perhaps some tweaks this system could work in Dust but I'm not sure quite how to implement it at the moment.

with the changes, seeing as the amount of prox mines dropped is limited could we perhaps have them magnetized in teh same way as AV nades with say a 5 or 10m seek range? it'd make them so much more usefull and mixed with the lower sig radius of a proto one then at least passive scans wont just light them up all time because as it is prox mines are pointless. every tank ont he map can see em from a mile off

Maybe for the frames that have combat efficient base stats to start with, but for the Logistics class, who don't, that won't help enough.

The idea (yours) as proposed saps HP from suits already gimped HP side, with no equitable buffs to ewar, movement or weapons use. TLDR: We're already sitting ducks largely, with little to no offensive or defensive capabilities and to equip BW mods will inhibit our ability to make our already meager for expected conditions base stats better even more limited.

BW will be of critical concern especially for Logis since ALL of our gameactions within our "maximized" discipline (support) will be constantly under the throttling of BW limits, as the BW idea as proposed stands. Except the ones who live inside the rears of heavies. Those guys dgaf.

I'm saying that to facilitate actual Combat Logistics we will.
And no, I'm not a spammer. I'm a fully invested, 100% DS Upgrades fully protoed in 3 of the 4 Logistics suits, with my 4th not far off, PC vetted, open-beta vet LOGI. A Logi who understands Strategically what it takes to take, hold and reinforce the MAP, not just feed ammo and lash on a heavy.

My tank is abysmal (like most Logis) already especially my fits for PC (usually in the 4-500 total hp range. Which is where BW extension as a module doesn't sit well with me. You know who would like that? The spammer looking to spam, switch, and never switch back.