DUST Search - Cloaking need to be remove from the game.

Cordera Ray wrote:

Destructive Habits wrote:

Okay, so you are saying that since the cloak field gives someone a SMALL strategic advantage over you that it's overpowered and it should be removed? The cloak has a few advantages (temporary invisibility) and many disadvantages (small cloak time, long recharge, partial invisibility, dampened scan precision, delay from firing after cloak). Most players just get better at observing their surroundings and get better scans, but a few just decide it's too much effort to fit a few modules to find cloaked scouts (or commandos :p). It honestly isn't that hard to find a cloaked enemy.

I didn't say it overpower, I did explain seconds on how long use and how long they recharge.

Like I said, I didn't minded it at first, but playing domination and skirmish it strategy with a full team.

Let say you play skirmish and u know closes flag is B flag and enemy will be C flag, A flag is wide open so few your team mate goes for A flag and cap it and set up a defense. Now before the cloaking enemy team will snipe, bull rush with HMG, Use Tank to flush the enemy out and set up Drop Unlink near by, simple Now with the cloak the can easily walk thru your defense without even notice and kill you on the spot unless u let them.

Your post when u said that isn't hard to find a cloaked enemy, I don't believe that for a second that if isn't hard to spot them when cloaked.


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Destructive Habits Universal Protectors of the Universe 1	Posted - 2014.11.17 22:45:00 - [1] - Quote Okay, so you are saying that since the cloak field gives someone a SMALL strategic advantage over you that it's overpowered and it should be removed? The cloak has a few advantages (temporary invisibility) and many disadvantages (small cloak time, long recharge, partial invisibility, dampened scan precision, delay from firing after cloak). Most players just get better at observing their surroundings and get better scans, but a few just decide it's too much effort to fit a few modules to find cloaked scouts (or commandos :p). It honestly isn't that hard to find a cloaked enemy. Click here for a BPO Assault Rifle, a BPO SMG and a BPO Militia Dropsuit.
Destructive Habits Universal Protectors of the Universe 1	Posted - 2014.11.20 00:09:00 - [2] - Quote Cordera Ray wrote: Destructive Habits wrote: Okay, so you are saying that since the cloak field gives someone a SMALL strategic advantage over you that it's overpowered and it should be removed? The cloak has a few advantages (temporary invisibility) and many disadvantages (small cloak time, long recharge, partial invisibility, dampened scan precision, delay from firing after cloak). Most players just get better at observing their surroundings and get better scans, but a few just decide it's too much effort to fit a few modules to find cloaked scouts (or commandos :p). It honestly isn't that hard to find a cloaked enemy. I didn't say it overpower, I did explain seconds on how long use and how long they recharge. Like I said, I didn't minded it at first, but playing domination and skirmish it strategy with a full team. Let say you play skirmish and u know closes flag is B flag and enemy will be C flag, A flag is wide open so few your team mate goes for A flag and cap it and set up a defense. Now before the cloaking enemy team will snipe, bull rush with HMG, Use Tank to flush the enemy out and set up Drop Unlink near by, simple Now with the cloak the can easily walk thru your defense without even notice and kill you on the spot unless u let them. Your post when u said that isn't hard to find a cloaked enemy, I don't believe that for a second that if isn't hard to spot them when cloaked. Well, I think that you need to understand that just because you don't quite understand how to observe your surroundings (or type for that matter) doesn't mean that you should blame the cloak for all of the problems that you have with the game. Even though the cloak has been released, I still see people "bull rush with hmg" "use tank to flush out enemy" and "set up Drop Unlink". Do you want to know why? It's because the cloak is not overpowered (which you actually did say). If it was overpowered, everybody would be running around with shotguns and cloak fields, and nobody would even try to "set up Drop Unlink". Nobody will be able to "walk thru your defense without even notice and kill you on the spot" if you use your minimap or (god forbid) your EYES. Click here for a BPO Assault Rifle, a BPO SMG and a BPO Militia Dropsuit.
Destructive Habits Universal Protectors of the Universe 2	Posted - 2014.11.21 22:35:00 - [3] - Quote Cordera Ray wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Cordera Ray wrote: Michael Arck wrote: What is the deadly impact of cloaks? That it puts more scouts onto the field? I have been trying to figure out what is the real problem with cloaks for a long time now. Yea but did your consider of what suit that they where. Combination is either Proto Logi or Lightweight Drop suit with Shot Gun and Machine Pistol or Iron Pistol either one. The reason I ask because I don't think cloaks are part of the problem. I think they have lead to over saturation of the roles, but if cloaks are removed, will it actually alleviate the problem? Just curious for the discussion points. I'm not saying it should be remove, It need something to counter it. Even thou Flux Grenade only think to disable Shield and Electronic. Before the cloaked, there was no issue on how the game actually played at the time they add it in. So I don't see it Alleviate the Problem. Oh, so you're saying that you didn't say that cloaking needs to be removed from the game? The thread is titled "cloaking needs to be remove from the game" You know what can counter a cloak? Scanners, team communication, and SITUATIONAL AWARENESS! Honestly, I notice cloaked enemies more often than they kill me, and that's saying something (I'm not very good) but I am aware of what is going on. They aren't a threat if you use your eyes. (It helps to be good, also) Click here for a BPO Assault Rifle, a BPO SMG and a BPO Militia Dropsuit.
Destructive Habits Universal Protectors of the Universe 2	Posted - 2014.11.22 04:00:00 - [4] - Quote Honestly, if you would just look around a little, you would see that your opinion does not matter at this point. Your opinion is a grain of salt in a sea of ***** that we don't give. Click here for a BPO Assault Rifle, a BPO SMG and a BPO Militia Dropsuit.
Destructive Habits Universal Protectors of the Universe 4	Posted - 2014.11.25 00:09:00 - [5] - Quote Cordera Ray is 100% done with this thread. Click here for a BPO Assault Rifle, a BPO SMG and a BPO Militia Dropsuit.