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Cordera Ray
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Posted - 2014.11.17 21:46:00 -
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You know I had to wonder what in the world was CCP thinking when it was good idea to put Cloaking in this game.
Now the strategy in this game is completely @#$%.
Element of surprise. Wow.
I going to say this at first I didn't minded as much when playing Skirmish and Domination. Every time, Moving to Objective or Defend Objective, Capping the Flag, or just walking tore the objective . Get kill by Shot gunner in close range, getting shot from behind, it ridiculous.
Then trying to shoot them, they go cloaked, Don't know where there going to kill u from, Option is, He Hide, Flank around, Or chase him down. Then boom your dead from behind.
It get ignoring as hell, And I don't know need someone on here to tell me just sucked up and adopt. U know for the people that play it they brag about there proto suit, logi suit and gear, how much ISK and SP in a hours spent.
CCP need to make a modules or weapon of some sort to counter it. Like Infrared scanning or heat seeker.
Yes I know I have look at cloak field in marketplace if some of u trying to tell me it only use for short period of time 15,30,40 second of use, and 10, 15, 20 second of recharging.
You wonder no new player will ever stay with this game long term. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
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Posted - 2014.11.18 01:47:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:TBH I liked the game much more before the cloak.
Then again, I'm not sure what would happen if the only viable counter to the HMG were not in the game.
What was the better way to beat HMG then, Flux and Locus Grenade, Flay lock Pistol, Mass Driver and shot gun. I don't see them using most of that now. Before the cloaked most player will just gang up on them shoot the crap out them. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
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Posted - 2014.11.18 01:49:00 -
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CharacterNameWasTaken wrote:i wonder why your grammar is so bad is the the thing i.wonder.
If that your answers because u don't want to say that oh I been killed by them a bunch time and I don't have problem with it.
For you to say that make no freaking sense if you think I'm just sitting here complaining. I'm not. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
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Posted - 2014.11.18 01:51:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:You know I had to wonder what in the world was CCP thinking when it was good idea to put Cloaking in this game.
Now the strategy in this game is completely @#$%.
Element of surprise. Wow.
I going to say this at first I didn't minded as much when playing Skirmish and Domination. Every time, Moving to Objective or Defend Objective, Capping the Flag, or just walking tore the objective . Get kill by Shot gunner in close range, getting shot from behind, it ridiculous.
Then trying to shoot them, they go cloaked, Don't know where there going to kill u from, Option is, He Hide, Flank around, Or chase him down. Then boom your dead from behind.
It get ignoring as hell, And I don't know need someone on here to tell me just sucked up and adopt. U know for the people that play it they brag about there proto suit, logi suit and gear, how much ISK and SP in a hours spent.
CCP need to make a modules or weapon of some sort to counter it. Like Infrared scanning or heat seeker.
Yes I know I have look at cloak field in marketplace if some of u trying to tell me it only use for short period of time 15,30,40 second of use, and 10, 15, 20 second of recharging.
You wonder no new player will ever stay with this game long term. Shut your wh*re mouth.
Yup that coming from a player that really doesn't matter how the game is play. Survival of the fittest huh. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
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Posted - 2014.11.18 02:08:00 -
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Destructive Habits wrote:Okay, so you are saying that since the cloak field gives someone a SMALL strategic advantage over you that it's overpowered and it should be removed? The cloak has a few advantages (temporary invisibility) and many disadvantages (small cloak time, long recharge, partial invisibility, dampened scan precision, delay from firing after cloak). Most players just get better at observing their surroundings and get better scans, but a few just decide it's too much effort to fit a few modules to find cloaked scouts (or commandos :p). It honestly isn't that hard to find a cloaked enemy.
I didn't say it overpower, I did explain seconds on how long use and how long they recharge.
Like I said, I didn't minded it at first, but playing domination and skirmish it strategy with a full team.
Let say you play skirmish and u know closes flag is B flag and enemy will be C flag, A flag is wide open so few your team mate goes for A flag and cap it and set up a defense. Now before the cloaking enemy team will snipe, bull rush with HMG, Use Tank to flush the enemy out and set up Drop Unlink near by, simple Now with the cloak the can easily walk thru your defense without even notice and kill you on the spot unless u let them.
Your post when u said that isn't hard to find a cloaked enemy, I don't believe that for a second that if isn't hard to spot them when cloaked. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
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Posted - 2014.11.18 02:10:00 -
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DDx77 wrote:This is not a game where you can just go auto pilot in a heavy and kill everyb......oh wait
Seriously:
turn and shoot.
Watch your back.
Anticipate
Use scanners
Use eyes to see blue ghostie thing and shoot it
Your target sight will turn red when you point it at a cloak, again shoot
Mass driver at their feet!!!!! (Hint very effective)
Yes sometimes they are overwhelming.
I also noticed you only mentioned shotgun, you dont mind when knives kill you just as fast?
Yes the cloak should be exposed if you land shots on it but that's my only problem with them.
I actually think the duration times for each tier should be increased
But no, it's not leaving the game. Ever
Everything u just said tell me that u really don't have single problem when dealing with them.
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Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
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Posted - 2014.11.18 02:13:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:No i just learned how to adapt to the delay
Everyone will say the same thing without concern and trying to act natural with it like nothing happen. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
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Posted - 2014.11.18 02:16:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:What is the deadly impact of cloaks? That it puts more scouts onto the field? I have been trying to figure out what is the real problem with cloaks for a long time now.
Yea but did your consider of what suit that they where. Combination is either Proto Logi or Lightweight Drop suit with Shot Gun and Machine Pistol or Iron Pistol either one. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
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Posted - 2014.11.18 02:41:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:So you didn't feel like commenting in one of the other number of threads with practically the same title?
First of there I been away from this forum almost year. Second my PS3 out of commission when they started adding new things in the game so that was like 7-8 month ago since I been back on here and the game.. Trust me I know how your player are when come to thing like these. You act like there nothing wrong with instead of saying to me that I don't have a problem. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:15:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:I'm so sick of the cloak being used as a scapegoat. Yes the cloak-fire delay is still fugged but I have not died to a rifle-weilding scout in this fashion. Ever.
Then your just lying too your self by saying that I haven't die from it. Tell me this , Do u stay in one spot and not get into a fire fight or do u use a tank to mauled down enemy or do u ever go tours the objective but use the cloaked to be Undetected by enemy team. There no way that u cant possible say that I haven't been killed by any player that use cloaking. |
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Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:18:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Michael Arck wrote:What is the deadly impact of cloaks? That it puts more scouts onto the field? I have been trying to figure out what is the real problem with cloaks for a long time now.
Yea but did your consider of what suit that they where. Combination is either Proto Logi or Lightweight Drop suit with Shot Gun and Machine Pistol or Iron Pistol either one. The reason I ask because I don't think cloaks are part of the problem. I think they have lead to over saturation of the roles, but if cloaks are removed, will it actually alleviate the problem? Just curious for the discussion points.
I'm not saying it should be remove, It need something to counter it. Even thou Flux Grenade only think to disable Shield and Electronic. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
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Posted - 2014.11.21 03:40:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:You need to be removed from the game.
I don't need to tell me to stop playing this game just because I'm complaining over lousy cloaked. All I saying is it ruin the strategy of the game. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
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Posted - 2014.11.21 03:42:00 -
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Destructive Habits wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Destructive Habits wrote:Okay, so you are saying that since the cloak field gives someone a SMALL strategic advantage over you that it's overpowered and it should be removed? The cloak has a few advantages (temporary invisibility) and many disadvantages (small cloak time, long recharge, partial invisibility, dampened scan precision, delay from firing after cloak). Most players just get better at observing their surroundings and get better scans, but a few just decide it's too much effort to fit a few modules to find cloaked scouts (or commandos :p). It honestly isn't that hard to find a cloaked enemy.
I didn't say it overpower, I did explain seconds on how long use and how long they recharge. Like I said, I didn't minded it at first, but playing domination and skirmish it strategy with a full team. Let say you play skirmish and u know closes flag is B flag and enemy will be C flag, A flag is wide open so few your team mate goes for A flag and cap it and set up a defense. Now before the cloaking enemy team will snipe, bull rush with HMG, Use Tank to flush the enemy out and set up Drop Unlink near by, simple Now with the cloak the can easily walk thru your defense without even notice and kill you on the spot unless u let them. Your post when u said that isn't hard to find a cloaked enemy, I don't believe that for a second that if isn't hard to spot them when cloaked. Well, I think that you need to understand that just because you don't quite understand how to observe your surroundings (or type for that matter) doesn't mean that you should blame the cloak for all of the problems that you have with the game. Even though the cloak has been released, I still see people "bull rush with hmg" "use tank to flush out enemy" and "set up Drop Unlink". Do you want to know why? It's because the cloak is not overpowered (which you actually did say). If it was overpowered, everybody would be running around with shotguns and cloak fields, and nobody would even try to "set up Drop Unlink". Nobody will be able to "walk thru your defense without even notice and kill you on the spot" if you use your minimap or (god forbid) your EYES.
I will respect your comment but that not how I saw the game when I first play it.
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