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rithu
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2014.11.17 15:24:00 -
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Why dont you take away scouts,cloak & shotgun from this game.
Remember tho, the only counter to heavies are RE & shotgun scouts. |
KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.11.17 15:32:00 -
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rithu wrote:Why dont you take away scouts,cloak & shotgun from this game.
Remember tho, the only counter to heavies are RE & shotgun scouts.
Scouts are ok.
And no. teamwork is the counter to everything in Dust514.
Hell, even my Amarr Assault ak.0 with Viziam is a good anti sentinel counter.
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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rithu
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
234
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Posted - 2014.11.17 15:38:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:rithu wrote:Why dont you take away scouts,cloak & shotgun from this game.
Remember tho, the only counter to heavies are RE & shotgun scouts. Scouts are ok.And no. teamwork is the counter to everything in Dust514. Hell, even my Amarr Assault ak.0 with Viziam is a good anti sentinel counter.
dude no. Sentinels with a logi repping him ? You wont see those in open maps. And sentinels are always OP in closed Building maps (almost all). Your shield melting viziam will tickle amarr & gal armor tanks. |
BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna
Dark Taboo
3350
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:35:00 -
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Whats the counter to a shotgun scout?
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
300
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:43:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Whats the counter to a shotgun scout?
Range and awareness
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Echo 1991
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
564
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:46:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Whats the counter to a shotgun scout? Range and awareness
You can't see behind you. You know they wont run at you head on. |
Jack McReady
Dust University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:48:00 -
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there is no counter to real scouts
dedicated damp suits have better BASE scan profile than dedicated suits have BASE scan precision
AND
damps are stronger than precision enhancers
math wins here. binary mechanic ftl.
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
300
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:49:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Whats the counter to a shotgun scout? Range and awareness You can't see behind you. You know they wont run at you head on.
Let me rephrase that Range and Awareness
Or scanners, scanners help too!
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:51:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:there is no counter to real scouts
dedicated damp suits have better BASE scan profile than dedicated suits have BASE scan precision
AND
damps are stronger than precision enhancers
math wins here. binary mechanic ftl.
Oh, but wait if you happen to shoot one he's either going to charge (10% - 90% chance) or run (1% - 80%) or run
So yeah stay at range and stay alert
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:54:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:rithu wrote:Why dont you take away scouts,cloak & shotgun from this game.
Remember tho, the only counter to heavies are RE & shotgun scouts. Scouts are ok.And no. teamwork is the counter to everything in Dust514. Hell, even my Amarr Assault ak.0 with Viziam is a good anti sentinel counter.
Probs cos the amar assault can tank over 1000 armour HP and still have 3 DMG mods up front  |
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Echo 1991
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
565
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:57:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Whats the counter to a shotgun scout? Range and awareness You can't see behind you. You know they wont run at you head on. Let me rephrase that Range and AwarenessOr scanners, scanners help too!
Yeah scanners do help. If its on a gal logi. Otherwise one dampener and you can hide from every scanner apart from the focused. |
Midas Fool
Prophets of the Velocirapture
527
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Posted - 2014.11.17 19:14:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Whats the counter to a shotgun scout?
Strategy.
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4617
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Posted - 2014.11.17 19:16:00 -
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rithu wrote:Why dont you take away scouts,cloak & shotgun from this game.
Remember tho, the only counter to heavies are RE & shotgun scouts.
No let's not remove content...let's balance content.
When you say the only counter to heavies are RE and shotgun scouts...that's just evidence that the HMG/Sentinel needs to be balanced further.
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
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Patrilicus
Trash Bucket
65
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Posted - 2014.11.17 20:12:00 -
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A great Sentinel has a counter
A great Assault has a counter
A great Scout runs around undetected on hit and run missions and is nearly uncounterable.
A scout needs only patience and timing to wreck.
imo a scout should have to choose between a cloak or r/e's. Choices, sacrifices. You know, just like everyone else.
Garbage Day!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
2869
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Posted - 2014.11.17 20:14:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Whats the counter to a shotgun scout? Range and awareness You can't see behind you. You know they wont run at you head on.
Then look behind you every so often, or turn around when they uncloak or start shooting....Damn its not hard.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4622
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Posted - 2014.11.17 20:17:00 -
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[quote=Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p turn around when they uncloak or start shooting....Damn its not hard.[/quote]
The sound for them decloaking doesn't play until AFTER you get 2 shotgun shots off.
Yeah...
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.11.17 20:19:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Then look behind you every so often, or turn around when they uncloak or start shooting....Damn its not hard. I still don't hear certain sounds, like decloaking or footsteps, when they originate from behind my character. Behind my character is pretty much where SG scouts live.
My advice to you, playa...
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
957
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Posted - 2014.11.17 20:23:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Whats the counter to a shotgun scout?
A mass driver with a twitchy trigger.
Please Lone-wolf responsibly. Calling for nerfs because you died is bad, cause its usually your own stupid fault.
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4622
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Posted - 2014.11.17 20:25:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Then look behind you every so often, or turn around when they uncloak or start shooting....Damn its not hard. I still don't hear certain sounds, like decloaking or footsteps, when they originate from behind my character. Behind my character is pretty much where SG scouts live.
This right here.
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
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Str8 Smurfin
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2014.11.17 20:25:00 -
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rithu wrote:Why dont you take away scouts,cloak & shotgun from this game.
Remember tho, the only counter to heavies are RE & shotgun scouts.
What about the other Suits? Getting one shot by the shotgun, Getting Obliterrated by RE's,heavies are easy to counter...Just got to be smart, Don't run in front of him and start shooting at a heavy...He will **** you every single time, take different routes... |
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7 Djin
The Hundred Acre Hood
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.17 20:26:00 -
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Patrilicus wrote:A great Sentinel has a counter
A great Assault has a counter
A great Scout runs around undetected on hit and run missions and is nearly uncounterable.
A scout needs only patience and timing to wreck.
imo a scout should have to choose between a cloak or r/e's. Choices, sacrifices. You know, just like everyone else.
THIS^
Scouts need to fit more like light frames right now they simply bring too much to the table they feel loaded down and OP. |
Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
308
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Posted - 2014.11.17 20:29:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Whats the counter to a shotgun scout?
Any weapon with a range > 5m. |
deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
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Posted - 2014.11.17 20:55:00 -
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What is the counter to a proto sentinel being repped by a proto amarr scout? |
Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4624
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Posted - 2014.11.17 20:58:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:What is the counter to a proto sentinel being repped by a proto amarr scout?
Depends.
But a heavy being repped by a min logi would obviously have an advantage. 
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
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Vesta Opalus
Bloodline Rebellion
Capital Punishment.
183
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Posted - 2014.11.17 21:00:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Whats the counter to a shotgun scout? Range and awareness
Another ****** who thinks its even possible to have 24/7 360 degree perfect awareness, because thats what it takes to stop a guy from getting behind you when he can see every move you make, is invisible, and is much faster than you. And thats just against one scout. The problem spirals out of control very quickly when you add in any other threats and especially any other scouts with the same advantages as the first guy.
Oh god then later in the thread he actually suggests you use scans to find these scouts. Fun fact: ANY SCOUT can fit themselves to avoid ANY SCAN IN THIS GAME, yes this includes the gal logi with the best proto scanner available. |
Aramis Madrigal
Bloodline Rebellion
Capital Punishment.
320
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Posted - 2014.11.17 22:44:00 -
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In objective based game modes (i.e. skirmish), scouts can be countered with planning and awareness. When a scout is not obligated to play the objective, things get a bit more uncertain...
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.11.17 22:53:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Whats the counter to a shotgun scout? Range and awareness Another ****** who thinks its even possible to have 24/7 360 degree perfect awareness, because thats what it takes to stop a guy from getting behind you when he can see every move you make, is invisible, and is much faster than you. And thats just against one scout. The problem spirals out of control very quickly when you add in any other threats and especially any other scouts with the same advantages as the first guy. Oh god then later in the thread he actually suggests you use scans to find these scouts. Fun fact: ANY SCOUT can fit themselves to avoid ANY SCAN IN THIS GAME, yes this includes the gal logi with the best proto scanner available.
Not true, My scout can't fit himself to avoid scan no matter what I do.
Recently I played a game where I was attacked by a squad of scouts, I killed 4 of the 6 before one used a BP.
Guess how many had cloaks... 5 they all were running at me cloaked and I was when I turned around I saw them. I had been aware and almost killed a whole squad... I was using a ACR.
Do not come call me a ****** just because I said to stay aware, I know it's not possible sometimes, but 80% of the time it is possible!
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Love your state for it protects you
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.11.17 22:54:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:deezy dabest wrote:What is the counter to a proto sentinel being repped by a proto amarr scout? Depends. But a heavy being repped by a min logi would obviously have an advantage.
Answer, Boundless RE frisbee
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1939
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Posted - 2014.11.17 23:48:00 -
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rithu wrote:Why dont you take away scouts,cloak & shotgun from this game.
Remember tho, the only counter to heavies are RE & shotgun scouts.
nowp.. minmandos with FREEDOM MassDrivers make multch out of sentinels.
dont have to be scout to use RE's..
dont have to be scout to use shotguns
your argument is invalid.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1939
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Posted - 2014.11.17 23:48:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:deezy dabest wrote:What is the counter to a proto sentinel being repped by a proto amarr scout? Depends. But a heavy being repped by a min logi would obviously have an advantage. Answer, Boundless RE frisbee
i can vouch for this method.. i am a logi and i have been subject to this quite a few times.
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