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killertojo42
KnightKiller's inc.
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Posted - 2014.11.17 15:00:00 -
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Rifle ``rebalancing``, suit rebalancing and constant nerfing and rebuffing usually unnecessary things and yet somehow the shotgun still hasn't got it's it's needed nerf, i just lost a match to a whole Q-sync of shotgun scouts and when i pulled my heavy out they started chucking REs, seriously this game is dying because everything goes dead by scout, remove the second equipment slot, the cloak is extremely OP now so i don't want complaints about scouts losing the "RE" slot and as for shotguns just fix the damn things, give them all breach ROF or slower and knock the dam by 10%, you keep making a god mode class and this game won't be fun for anyone or keep new players
When walking on the battlefield i stand alone
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Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1392
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Posted - 2014.11.17 15:23:00 -
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I wonder what would happen if you lost to squad/team of assaults using shotguns and RE's... or logi suits... now that would be pretty funny.
I might hate the shotgun scout, but if you think this game is dying because of it, perhaps it might be time to find a new game without C4 and stealth mechanics.
I want to punch.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
5880
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Posted - 2014.11.17 15:27:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:Rifle ``rebalancing``, suit rebalancing and constant nerfing and rebuffing usually unnecessary things and yet somehow the shotgun still hasn't got it's it's needed nerf, i just lost a match to a whole Q-sync of shotgun scouts and when i pulled my heavy out they started chucking REs, seriously this game is dying because everything goes dead by scout, remove the second equipment slot, the cloak is extremely OP now so i don't want complaints about scouts losing the "RE" slot and as for shotguns just fix the damn things, give them all breach ROF or slower and knock the dam by 10%, you keep making a god mode class and this game won't be fun for anyone or keep new players
I dont use shotguns.
I dont think they need a nerf.
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
275
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Posted - 2014.11.17 15:41:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:Rifle ``rebalancing``, suit rebalancing and constant nerfing and rebuffing usually unnecessary things and yet somehow the shotgun still hasn't got it's it's needed nerf, i just lost a match to a whole Q-sync of shotgun scouts and when i pulled my heavy out they started chucking REs, seriously this game is dying because everything goes dead by scout, remove the second equipment slot, the cloak is extremely OP now so i don't want complaints about scouts losing the "RE" slot and as for shotguns just fix the damn things, give them all breach ROF or slower and knock the dam by 10%, you keep making a god mode class and this game won't be fun for anyone or keep new players Us a rifle at <15 meters and they die rather quickly. They are the counter to heavies, use an assault or scout.
It's like complaining that the HMG killed you when you rushed him head on....
Yes it sucks but it's part of the challenge
The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
4866
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Posted - 2014.11.17 15:43:00 -
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The SG weapon itself doesn't appear to be OP. It has a very limited range. It's the ability of cloaked up scouts to get in that limit range incredibly quickly, and without being noticed, that makes the SG overperform.
My advice to you, playa...
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WARxion ForDUST
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
131
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Posted - 2014.11.17 15:47:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:Rifle ``rebalancing``, suit rebalancing and constant nerfing and rebuffing usually unnecessary things and yet somehow the shotgun still hasn't got it's it's needed nerf, i just lost a match to a whole Q-sync of shotgun scouts and when i pulled my heavy out they started chucking REs, seriously this game is dying because everything goes dead by scout, remove the second equipment slot, the cloak is extremely OP now so i don't want complaints about scouts losing the "RE" slot and as for shotguns just fix the damn things, give them all breach ROF or slower and knock the dam by 10%, you keep making a god mode class and this game won't be fun for anyone or keep new players
It's not the SG Scout that killed you, neither the RE, but teamwork. So CCP should nerf and remove teams. And nerf multiplayer gameplay and VOIP.
Yes, I'm that desperate...
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
300
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:23:00 -
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It isn't a 'Godmode' class, just misused. I have a Logiscout w/ needle, rep and ACR I have a 'command' scout with a Cloak and a SG w/ Armor rep mod. No this isn't a slayer fit, it is used to get somewhere unseen and order my squad to do something. SG is for when I need to quickly kill a threat. I also have no sidearm I have a scout with ACR that has a cloak and an uplink...
Now I do have REs, on my assault fit...
Love your enemy for he toughens you.
Love your state for it protects you
Love your work
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1352
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:28:00 -
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OP's signature is his main problem.
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Echo 1991
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
564
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:31:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:It isn't a 'Godmode' class, just misused. I have a Logiscout w/ needle, rep and ACR I have a 'command' scout with a Cloak and a SG w/ Armor rep mod. No this isn't a slayer fit, it is used to get somewhere unseen and order my squad to do something. SG is for when I need to quickly kill a threat. I also have no sidearm I have a scout with ACR that has a cloak and an uplink...
Now I do have REs, on my assault fit... Scouts shouldn't be able to logi. That's a logis job. |
Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
949
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:33:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:It isn't a 'Godmode' class, just misused. I have a Logiscout w/ needle, rep and ACR I have a 'command' scout with a Cloak and a SG w/ Armor rep mod. No this isn't a slayer fit, it is used to get somewhere unseen and order my squad to do something. SG is for when I need to quickly kill a threat. I also have no sidearm I have a scout with ACR that has a cloak and an uplink...
Now I do have REs, on my assault fit... Scouts shouldn't be able to logi. That's a logis job.
if the suits got an equipment slot, it CAN logi.
in chrome, when ammo was plenty and ttk was super long, i had a 3 man Logssault team. All assaults, one rep tool, two needles. Stupid fun, and op.
Fairly certain killertojo woulda called for us to be nerfed had he ran into us back then.
Please Lone-wolf responsibly. Calling for nerfs because you died is bad, cause its usually your own stupid fault.
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Echo 1991
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
564
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:36:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:It isn't a 'Godmode' class, just misused. I have a Logiscout w/ needle, rep and ACR I have a 'command' scout with a Cloak and a SG w/ Armor rep mod. No this isn't a slayer fit, it is used to get somewhere unseen and order my squad to do something. SG is for when I need to quickly kill a threat. I also have no sidearm I have a scout with ACR that has a cloak and an uplink...
Now I do have REs, on my assault fit... Scouts shouldn't be able to logi. That's a logis job. if the suits got an equipment slot, it CAN logi. in chrome, when ammo was plenty and ttk was super long, i had a 3 man Logssault team. All assaults, one rep tool, two needles. Stupid fun, and op. Fairly certain killertojo woulda called for us to be nerfed had he ran into us back then. I'm not saying it can't. Im saying it shouldn't. Why should a scout have 2 equipment slots? They should choose between stealth or utility, not have both.
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IRON PATRIOT 1
General Tso's Alliance
155
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:38:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:Rifle ``rebalancing``, suit rebalancing and constant nerfing and rebuffing usually unnecessary things and yet somehow the shotgun still hasn't got it's it's needed nerf, i just lost a match to a whole Q-sync of shotgun scouts and when i pulled my heavy out they started chucking REs, seriously this game is dying because everything goes dead by scout, remove the second equipment slot, the cloak is extremely OP now so i don't want complaints about scouts losing the "RE" slot and as for shotguns just fix the damn things, give them all breach ROF or slower and knock the dam by 10%, you keep making a god mode class and this game won't be fun for anyone or keep new players
Shotgun has been the weapon of choice for scouts since the beginning of this game. They are low up suits that need a high alpha damage weapon to take down enemies fast because they don't last long in a gun fight. You newbs always try to change the meta of dust and it's disgusting. |
Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
306
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:56:00 -
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The problem with any attempt to balance light weapons to hinder a scout is it effects every other class, one of the reasons I promote side arms only scout. I know you're thinking who uses a shotgun apart from a scout well I do I use it on my commando because it has poor uptime and I use it to defend myself while I regain I would also consider it for a logi. They are great for holding choke points and are abused by the scout class.
The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
317
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:56:00 -
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The problem with any attempt to balance light weapons to hinder a scout is it effects every other class, one of the reasons I promote side arms only scout. I know you're thinking who uses a shotgun apart from a scout well I do I use it on my commando because it has poor uptime and I use it to defend myself while I regain I would also consider it for a logi. They are great for holding choke points and are abused by the scout class.
The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
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Mike Ox Bigger
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
424
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Posted - 2014.11.17 17:12:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:I wonder what would happen if you lost to squad/team of assaults using shotguns and RE's... or logi suits... now that would be pretty funny.
I might hate the shotgun scout, but if you think this game is dying because of it, perhaps it might be time to find a new game without C4 and stealth mechanics.
LMAO yeah cause all other games have C4 and the ability to be compeletely invisible. Want to fix the cloak? Make it shimmer at all times even when standing still. |
killertojo42
KnightKiller's inc.
82
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Posted - 2014.11.17 17:21:00 -
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All weapons meta has been changed and so ahotgun is up for another change akso since cloaks got even more upgraded lately they now are a virtual god mode because the shimmer is just barely visible within a few meters but past that they are invisible
When walking on the battlefield i stand alone
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Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1397
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Posted - 2014.11.17 22:30:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:I wonder what would happen if you lost to squad/team of assaults using shotguns and RE's... or logi suits... now that would be pretty funny.
I might hate the shotgun scout, but if you think this game is dying because of it, perhaps it might be time to find a new game without C4 and stealth mechanics. LMAO yeah cause all other games have C4 and the ability to be compeletely invisible. Want to fix the cloak? Make it shimmer at all times even when standing still.
Actually, most shooters coming out today do have C4, it's quite a bit deadlier in most of those games as well, and in some of them it can be thrown quite a bit further than in Dust and comes with almost no delay. And that wouldn't fix the cloak, it would just make people stop u-... oh, I see what you did there~! Still kinda wish CCP would have gone with the Crysis style cloaking. Harder to spot, but generally shorter intervals and much easier to end up without any cloaking energy if a mistake is made.
I want to punch.
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Sergeant Sazu
Kitties of Doom
185
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Posted - 2014.11.17 22:53:00 -
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Well, let's take a look at Planetside 2.
Infiltrator class:
-Cloak lasts 7 seconds (Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's short)
-No OHK weapons, aside from a headshot from the Bolt-Action Sniper Rifle.
-The class is considered comparitively underpowered, but can be a threat in the right hands.
Just some info to compare with.
[33.5m SP - Next skill: Combat Rifle Sharpshooter 5]
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
314
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Posted - 2014.11.17 23:26:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:It isn't a 'Godmode' class, just misused. I have a Logiscout w/ needle, rep and ACR I have a 'command' scout with a Cloak and a SG w/ Armor rep mod. No this isn't a slayer fit, it is used to get somewhere unseen and order my squad to do something. SG is for when I need to quickly kill a threat. I also have no sidearm I have a scout with ACR that has a cloak and an uplink...
Now I do have REs, on my assault fit... Scouts shouldn't be able to logi. That's a logis job. if the suits got an equipment slot, it CAN logi. in chrome, when ammo was plenty and ttk was super long, i had a 3 man Logssault team. All assaults, one rep tool, two needles. Stupid fun, and op. Fairly certain killertojo woulda called for us to be nerfed had he ran into us back then. I'm not saying it can't. Im saying it shouldn't. Why should a scout have 2 equipment slots? They should choose between stealth or utility, not have both. Sir, I believe I have told you why they have 2 slots. 1 uplink, 1 cloak, but guess what Dust gives you freedom to do what you want with what you've got. I was a Logissault before Logiscout. I'd be Logimando if I had the choice to. I won't be a Logi for awhile and when I do become a Logi I'm going to be Minmatar logi cause it was the Original Medic
Love your enemy for he toughens you.
Love your state for it protects you
Love your work
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1938
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Posted - 2014.11.17 23:39:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:I wonder what would happen if you lost to squad/team of assaults using shotguns and RE's... or logi suits... now that would be pretty funny.
I might hate the shotgun scout, but if you think this game is dying because of it, perhaps it might be time to find a new game without C4 and stealth mechanics. scouts are killing the game because of their low TTK moderate EHP cloaks ewar, movment/sprint/strafe speeds and when you get a whole squad or more of scouts its near impossable to win a match..
logi are slow and have low ehp compaired to assaults.. sentinels are slow and easly shot in the back twice/3 times to kill them
almost no one runs proto gal logi+focused scanners but even then a full damp scout can STILL get under the focused scanner..
i saw a damp and double kinkat minmatar assautl with shotgun and NKs.. and he still did not perform as well as a scout would.. and he couldnt fit a cloak... and only had a single equipment slot..
medium suits were supposed to be the versitile suits not scouts..
so one simple change would be remove 1 equipment slot from scout (not light as they lack cpu/pg for cloaks) and give a second equipment slot to medium suits/assaults.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1938
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Posted - 2014.11.17 23:40:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:It isn't a 'Godmode' class, just misused. I have a Logiscout w/ needle, rep and ACR I have a 'command' scout with a Cloak and a SG w/ Armor rep mod. No this isn't a slayer fit, it is used to get somewhere unseen and order my squad to do something. SG is for when I need to quickly kill a threat. I also have no sidearm I have a scout with ACR that has a cloak and an uplink...
Now I do have REs, on my assault fit... it may not be a GODMODE suit but it is a DEMI-GOD suit and it needs nerfing hard to make it MORTAL again.. like what happened to Assault dropships
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