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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.11.17 12:25:00 -
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Last sunday 2pm Eve time I started grinding this char from 73,3 M SP.
Seven days (and 12hrs) after:
79,4 M SP.
That's 6,1 M SP in time period of seven days.
What a grind. Finally got decent sleep, and now have to start the grind on next char.
By the way, it took 88 weeks (22months) to reach 70 M SP.
Now one tenth was given out in a single week... That DOES seem radically out of balance to me. Maybe to some others as well?
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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Orber Gen
Academy Inferno
E-R-A
232
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Posted - 2014.11.17 12:26:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Last sunday 2pm Eve time I started grinding this char from 73,3 M SP.
Seven days (and 12hrs) after:
79,4 M SP.
That's 6,1 M SP in time period of seven days.
What a grind. Finally got decent sleep, and now have to start the grind on next char.
By the way, it took 88 weeks (22months) to reach 70 M SP.
Now one tenth was given out in a single week... That DOES seem radically out of balance to me. Maybe to some others as well?
A lot of player do same math. Clearly 750k SP just kills the game. |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
2606
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Posted - 2014.11.17 12:40:00 -
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750k SP isn't killing the game. 750k + Boosters + post battle boosters is going to kill the game. Chalk it up to Rattati for having a brain fart about how boosters work.
My money is on "boosters are just going to help you cap FASTER rather than give more SP" and cap of 750k will stay. The logic will be "not everyone will cap out every week unless they grind, grind, grind or buy boosters."
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Sequal Rise
Les Desanusseurs
285
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Posted - 2014.11.17 12:40:00 -
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Orber Gen wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Last sunday 2pm Eve time I started grinding this char from 73,3 M SP.
Seven days (and 12hrs) after:
79,4 M SP.
That's 6,1 M SP in time period of seven days.
What a grind. Finally got decent sleep, and now have to start the grind on next char.
By the way, it took 88 weeks (22months) to reach 70 M SP.
Now one tenth was given out in a single week... That DOES seem radically out of balance to me. Maybe to some others as well? A lot of player do same math. Clearly 750k SP just kills the game.
Honestly I could cap out 190k SP per week before relatively easily, but now 750k is just impossible for me. There is no SP per battle multiplier increase so except if you are a tryhard without job/college, this cap is unreachable.
I think 300k could be nice.
Take out all forms of scans and you'll see how great Dust can be.
Scrubs will cry, good players will love it.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
5287
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Posted - 2014.11.17 12:42:00 -
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I haven't come remotely close to capping either week.
I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
5071
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Posted - 2014.11.17 12:45:00 -
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You're going to need to pay me higher than 16.00/hour to make capping in DUST my second job.
I applaud your masochism and dedication to self suffering.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Ryme Intrinseca
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
2009
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Posted - 2014.11.17 12:47:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Last sunday 2pm Eve time I started grinding this char from 73,3 M SP.
Seven days (and 12hrs) after:
79,4 M SP.
That's 6,1 M SP in time period of seven days.
What a grind. Finally got decent sleep, and now have to start the grind on next char.
By the way, it took 88 weeks (22months) to reach 70 M SP.
Now one tenth was given out in a single week... That DOES seem radically out of balance to me. Maybe to some others as well?
Probably Soraya will be along in a minute to explain how triple boosters+instant boosters=6mil SP in a week isn't PTW  |
Orber Gen
Academy Inferno
E-R-A
232
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Posted - 2014.11.17 12:57:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:750k SP isn't killing the game.
One simple truth - "U need 4 weeks to get 1 proto suite and 1 proto gun", and another 4 weeks to max out the gun. Anyway, u can get good suite in 3-4 months without boosters... That is mean u don't need a boosters  No boosters = no money = no honey 
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
543
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Posted - 2014.11.17 13:06:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Last sunday 2pm Eve time I started grinding this char from 73,3 M SP.
Seven days (and 12hrs) after:
79,4 M SP.
That's 6,1 M SP in time period of seven days.
What a grind. Finally got decent sleep, and now have to start the grind on next char.
By the way, it took 88 weeks (22months) to reach 70 M SP.
Now one tenth was given out in a single week... That DOES seem radically out of balance to me. Maybe to some others as well?
I see some 1 is spending money on omega boosters.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1529
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Posted - 2014.11.17 13:28:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:750k SP isn't killing the game. 750k + Boosters + post battle boosters is going to kill the game. Chalk it up to Rattati for having a brain fart about how boosters work.
My money is on "boosters are just going to help you cap FASTER rather than give more SP" and cap of 750k will stay. The logic will be "not everyone will cap out every week unless they grind, grind, grind or buy boosters."
Let's hope there will be that change.
BTW the 750k cap IS currently "killing the game" it is such a stupendously high amount of game time required to reach the 'game's intented weekly goal'.
Note that goal of course hasn't been announced as such but nevertheless that is how it appears to playerbase and how the games' psychology works.
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1529
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Posted - 2014.11.17 13:31:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:You're going to need to pay me higher than 16.00/hour to make capping in DUST my second job.
I applaud your masochism and dedication to self suffering.
Suffering is the correct word.
It is a pain alongside full time work and gf.
My gf even pointed out: "Honey, is there any sensibility in that thing [high number of games required]"
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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Orber Gen
Academy Inferno
E-R-A
233
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Posted - 2014.11.17 13:31:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:BTW the 750k cap IS currently "killing the game" it is such a stupendously high amount of game time required to reach the 'game's intented weekly goal'.
Don't forget about one thing - "stupendously high amount of game time required to reach" drives players to AFK... Today night (Moscow time) I saw ~18 AFK players in same battle. And I was one of them, because I don't want waste insane amount of time to grind. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1529
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Posted - 2014.11.17 13:36:00 -
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Smart ones of you naturally realise that my 6M was the result of two weeks cap sunday-to-sunday. Only very few overpriced instant SP boosts.
But my point stands - too high SP gain potential and too much grind.
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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loumanchew
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2014.11.17 13:42:00 -
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I personnally like the 750k, no one is putting a gun to my head for not reaching it and if I play alot I get paid alot. Also gives a chance for the new players to get some decent stats quickly and be competitive. Sure you can buy boosters and then ccp makes some money, good for them. |
Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
884
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Posted - 2014.11.17 14:48:00 -
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There's a cap?
The 750k kinda makes having an alt redundant tbh, why use an alt when you have ample sp to play around with on your main? |
zzZaXxx
Vengeance Unbound
664
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Posted - 2014.11.17 15:17:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:750k SP isn't killing the game. 750k + Boosters + post battle boosters is going to kill the game. Chalk it up to Rattati for having a brain fart about how boosters work.
My money is on "boosters are just going to help you cap FASTER rather than give more SP" and cap of 750k will stay. The logic will be "not everyone will cap out every week unless they grind, grind, grind or buy boosters." Guys relax. It's only for one month. They'll reduce it waaaay down after that. So this is a one month event for people who want to grind like that. Their one chance. No skin off my back. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1532
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Posted - 2014.11.17 22:51:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:750k SP isn't killing the game. 750k + Boosters + post battle boosters is going to kill the game. Chalk it up to Rattati for having a brain fart about how boosters work.
My money is on "boosters are just going to help you cap FASTER rather than give more SP" and cap of 750k will stay. The logic will be "not everyone will cap out every week unless they grind, grind, grind or buy boosters." Guys relax. It's only for one month. They'll reduce it waaaay down after that. So this is a one month event for people who want to grind like that. Their one chance. No skin off my back.
This is the feedback to send the message that it should be returned.
Remember, nothing is locked, CCP is looking at how this month goes and decides afterwards. With no feedback we could only blame ourselves if it would be a permanent... feature.
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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Patrilicus
Trash Bucket
68
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Posted - 2014.11.17 23:17:00 -
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Honestly it wouldn't be such a grind if the sp payouts were fixed. I believe it is the passive in battle sp that has gone wrong. Maybe connected to the new loyalty points system too. I used to be able to get 10k sp just running links in a 20 min battle with 2k wp. Now I'm lucky to get 6k for the same result.
Garbage Day!
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1937
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Posted - 2014.11.17 23:26:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Last sunday 2pm Eve time I started grinding this char from 73,3 M SP.
Seven days (and 12hrs) after:
79,4 M SP.
That's 6,1 M SP in time period of seven days.
What a grind. Finally got decent sleep, and now have to start the grind on next char.
By the way, it took 88 weeks (22months) to reach 70 M SP.
Now one tenth was given out in a single week... That DOES seem radically out of balance to me. Maybe to some others as well?
lets not forget that you most likely has tripple SP boosters and/or tripple instant boosters too.. stop trying to make the current SP system look OP when its not.. in the last week i maybe got 500k to 700k with out boosters of any kind
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1937
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Posted - 2014.11.17 23:27:00 -
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Patrilicus wrote:Honestly it wouldn't be such a grind if the sp payouts were fixed. I believe it is the passive in battle sp that has gone wrong. Maybe connected to the new loyalty points system too. I used to be able to get 10k sp just running links in a 20 min battle with 2k wp. Now I'm lucky to get 6k for the same result.
its SP per WP SP per time in battle and SP of being alive too.. or something
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Patrilicus
Trash Bucket
68
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Posted - 2014.11.17 23:29:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Patrilicus wrote:Honestly it wouldn't be such a grind if the sp payouts were fixed. I believe it is the passive in battle sp that has gone wrong. Maybe connected to the new loyalty points system too. I used to be able to get 10k sp just running links in a 20 min battle with 2k wp. Now I'm lucky to get 6k for the same result. its SP per WP SP per time in battle and SP of being alive too.. or something
From the info I've gathered it is supposed to be: 5sp/second + 2sp/wp
Garbage Day!
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1537
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Posted - 2014.11.17 23:51:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Last sunday 2pm Eve time I started grinding this char from 73,3 M SP.
Seven days (and 12hrs) after:
79,4 M SP.
That's 6,1 M SP in time period of seven days.
What a grind. Finally got decent sleep, and now have to start the grind on next char.
By the way, it took 88 weeks (22months) to reach 70 M SP.
Now one tenth was given out in a single week... That DOES seem radically out of balance to me. Maybe to some others as well? lets not forget that you most likely has tripple SP boosters and/or tripple instant boosters too.. stop trying to make the current SP system look OP when its not.. in the last week i maybe got 500k to 700k with out boosters of any kind
Yes I had triple actives, but virtually none instant SP spikes.
You are saying that player's can't get millions of SP per week? There's no stopping anyone else doing the same.
Why is it bad?
The entire skill tree and progression system is based on previous SP gain rate. This sort of surplus would create a new need for skill tree and progression system overhaul - and that work would be away from all other Dust developement.
More on whys and other points here on original 1.9 feedback thread.
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4613
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Posted - 2014.11.18 00:00:00 -
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I get around 150k sp per week. The new cap hasn't effected me in any way, and neither do I feel like I'm behind the rest of the guys that have been playing longer or around the same time that I have. |
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