DUST Search - F**k the teleporting RE

deezy dabest wrote:

REs have tons of issues.

Blast radius too large (if in fact they are a/v as they claim this is not needed)
If anything blast radius is too small (smaller than a grenade), furthermore the blast radius has a further tendency to glitch to 0, not killing someone stood directly on it.

Sentinels not getting resistances
This is probably for the best, Sentinels aren't meant to be door kickers and RE's are area denial. In reality if you are Ant's nesting RE's are the counter to your gameplay.

Refilled by nanohives and supply depots (no other equipment is)
Probably because no other equipment does damage. Futhermore the only other equipmemt that needs restocking, the nanohive, is restockable by simply reselecting your suit from the depot.

Random sliding when place around an objective that leaves them immune to flux and EYES
This was fixed, what you may instead be experiemce is when an RE clips through the cannon to sit under the console.

Can be frisbee tossed many meters which actually seems to count off of the activation timer while they are flying
This has been fixed, once more I can attest to this. You can test it yourself, find a tall building like the towers in line harvest. You can not detonate the RE's before they stop moving AND THEN arm.

If only two of these issues got fixed maybe they would be more in line, I am not even pointing at any specific item from the list.
The fact your complaining about stuff that's already been fixed, would say otherwise.

This is Scout 514 and the r/e benefits the scout so I can not say I expect to see any thing done about them.

They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!

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shaman oga The Dunwich Horror 3186	Posted - 2014.11.16 20:56:00 - [1] - Quote My line is not the best, but CCP you actually don't give a ** about a broken game mechanic. How much time does it have to pass to fix this **? There is no counter. Flux? > immune till they reach their position Explosives weapons? > immune till they reach their position Scan? > invisible till they reach their position
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14681	Posted - 2014.11.16 21:02:00 - [2] - Quote shaman oga wrote: My line is not the best, but CCP you actually don't give a ** about a broken game mechanic. How much time does it have to pass to fix this *? There is no counter. Flux? > immune till they reach their position Explosives weapons? > immune till they reach their position Scan? > invisible till they reach their position If JLAVs remain the most viable means of anti vehicle ordinance in the game and I have to tolerate that...you certainly can tolerate this. "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this."* -Kador Ouryon
tander09 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 183	Posted - 2014.11.16 21:03:00 - [3] - Quote ya know, there is a scanner that you use everywhere that will spot REs, YOUR EYES! "If the gallente brainwash me again, they shall be purged by God himself!" -Nexle Skimfuse AMARRIAN4LYFE
shaman oga The Dunwich Horror 3186	Posted - 2014.11.16 21:13:00 - [4] - Quote tander09 wrote: ya know, there is a scanner that you use everywhere that will spot REs, YOUR EYES! Your reading comprehension must be worst than mine. Equipments are teleporting, you drop them on location A and they appear in location B. Eyes doesn't help.
Hakyou Brutor Capital Acquisitions LLC 1607	Posted - 2014.11.16 21:14:00 - [5] - Quote Rush the scout. Knight Soiaire = my bae
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 1015	Posted - 2014.11.16 21:34:00 - [6] - Quote shaman oga wrote: My line is not the best, but CCP you actually don't give a ** about a broken game mechanic. How much time does it have to pass to fix this **? There is no counter. Flux? > immune till they reach their position Explosives weapons? > immune till they reach their position Scan? > invisible till they reach their position I'm really tired. I'm waiting for eight months. Please support fair play!
H0riz0n Unlimit Dead Man's Game 199	Posted - 2014.11.16 21:38:00 - [7] - Quote First two post in this thread are 2 of the 4 main problems in this game that will never fixed; the other 2 are cal scout and amarr heavy :/ The KTM DuKe lives here, send a message after the "beep". TheD1ck is on the table fan club. MPRQ-MakingPeopleRageQuit
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2849	Posted - 2014.11.16 21:42:00 - [8] - Quote RE's are fine. However, Sentinel resistances aren't applying to equipment, so the RE insta pops them. As much as I hate heavy spam, there is a problem in the coding, and it needs to be fixed. To fix heavy spam, I think heavies need a slight HP nerf, and spawn time nerf. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1914	Posted - 2014.11.16 21:46:00 - [9] - Quote tander09 wrote: ya know, there is a scanner that you use everywhere that will spot REs, YOUR EYES! i use active scanners, it also helps my derps.. err team mates see the RE's too [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1914	Posted - 2014.11.16 21:48:00 - [10] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: RE's are fine. However, Sentinel resistances aren't applying to equipment, so the RE insta pops them. As much as I hate heavy spam, there is a problem in the coding, and it needs to be fixed. To fix heavy spam, I think heavies need a slight HP nerf, and spawn time nerf. keep the hp and spawn times as is but allow the sentinel to NOT use their resistance against RE's that way there s still scouts with RE's who can counter sentinels. and comming form me who is a massive anti scout person that should mean alot. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7

shaman oga The Dunwich Horror 3189	Posted - 2014.11.16 21:52:00 - [11] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: RE's are fine. However, Sentinel resistances aren't applying to equipment, so the RE insta pops them. As much as I hate heavy spam, there is a problem in the coding, and it needs to be fixed. To fix heavy spam, I think heavies need a slight HP nerf, and spawn time nerf. With your connection probably you see RE in the same position where people drop them. With my connection i see RE in a place, then they magically teleport a few meters away from their original position.
shaman oga The Dunwich Horror 3189	Posted - 2014.11.16 21:53:00 - [12] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: tander09 wrote: ya know, there is a scanner that you use everywhere that will spot REs, YOUR EYES! i use active scanners, it also helps my derps.. err team mates see the RE's too You can scan them only when they reach their final position. If i scan immediatly after someone drop a equipment, i will not see the equipment in my scan, tried a lot of times.
MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1056	Posted - 2014.11.16 23:29:00 - [13] - Quote Yes, its broken. I have seen exactly what you are describing happen to me many times. Hell, I have been the scout throwing them, and I've seen them "teleport". I can't guess what's causing it, but I've got a very good feel for where the REs will actually end up when I chuck them. That said, here's my advice for dealing with it until they hopefully fix it, which has saved MY ass plenty of times so I can vouch for its effectiveness: Assume the scout is used to this bull** and knows where his RE is actually going to end up (your feet) Assume the RE is currently arming itself on your ankles, regardless of what your eyes are telling you. MOVE THE ** AWAY FROM WHERE YOU WERE STANDING OH GOD JC A BOMB GET OUT OF THERE ITS GONNA BLOW Kill the scout while he desperately hopes you will walk back over the RE
xavier zor G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 271	Posted - 2014.11.16 23:31:00 - [14] - Quote True Adamance wrote: shaman oga wrote: My line is not the best, but CCP you actually don't give a ** about a broken game mechanic. How much time does it have to pass to fix this **? There is no counter. Flux? > immune till they reach their position Explosives weapons? > immune till they reach their position Scan? > invisible till they reach their position If JLAVs remain the most viable means of anti vehicle ordinance in the game and I have to tolerate that...you certainly can tolerate this. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA True Adamance i feel your pain i once jihaad a nyain squad until they stopped calling out proto tanks Highest plasma cannon kill: 132 metres
D4GG3R Fatal Absolution 517	Posted - 2014.11.16 23:34:00 - [15] - Quote RE'S are perfect how they are <3 I'm pretty plain. I watch anime for the boobs
shaman oga The Dunwich Horror 3195	Posted - 2014.11.16 23:41:00 - [16] - Quote xavier zor wrote: True Adamance wrote: shaman oga wrote: My line is not the best, but CCP you actually don't give a ** about a broken game mechanic. How much time does it have to pass to fix this ? There is no counter. Flux? > immune till they reach their position Explosives weapons? > immune till they reach their position Scan? > invisible till they reach their position If JLAVs remain the most viable means of anti vehicle ordinance in the game and I have to tolerate that...you certainly can tolerate this. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA True Adamance i feel your pain i once jihaad a nyain squad until they stopped calling out proto tanks Jihad Lav are **... But CCP totally support them, think... in public match there is nothing friendly that can trigger RE explosion, they don't explode if the owner flux them, they don't explode if mixed with proxy mines, they don't explode if the owner MD them..... The explosion is triggered only by: 1) Pushing L1 2) Friendly vehicle exploding
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2601	Posted - 2014.11.16 23:47:00 - [17] - Quote shaman oga wrote: xavier zor wrote: True Adamance wrote: shaman oga wrote: My line is not the best, but CCP you actually don't give a ** about a broken game mechanic. How much time does it have to pass to fix this ? There is no counter. Flux? > immune till they reach their position Explosives weapons? > immune till they reach their position Scan? > invisible till they reach their position If JLAVs remain the most viable means of anti vehicle ordinance in the game and I have to tolerate that...you certainly can tolerate this. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA True Adamance i feel your pain i once jihaad a nyain squad until they stopped calling out proto tanks Jihad Lav are **... But CCP totally support them, think... in public match there is nothing friendly that can trigger RE explosion, they don't explode if the owner flux them, they don't explode if mixed with proxy mines, they don't explode if the owner MD them..... The explosion is triggered only by: 1) Pushing L1 2) Friendly vehicle exploding I am not sure if CCP totally supports them or had no idea it would happen. "Remotes should stick to vehicles so they can be used against enemy vehicles." They add it in, have it stick to all vehicles rather than making it specific because that would have been annoying to code, and suddenly people are using suicide bombs in their jeeps. The points of 1) and 2) happened long before they could stick to vehicles. They are coded to work like yourself rather than teammates. So teammates can't hurt you but you can hurt yourself which is why I believe you can shoot your own Remotes and why they kill you when activated but not friendlies. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Mejt0 Hollywood Undead. 507	Posted - 2014.11.17 00:51:00 - [18] - Quote Words,words,words. . Leave remotes alone. Something have to kill these ,,i have 1,6k hp, i am wielding 1k dps gun, and i have slave logi behind my a**'' in one solid explosion. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
CharacterNameWasTaken 238	Posted - 2014.11.17 00:54:00 - [19] - Quote The best one i came up with was explosive frisbees. If you kill a scout while he is throwing it at you just say "i won that game of frisbee better get rid of it" promptly fluxes frisbee "Stop it the bouncing is making me uncomfortable" - Senji/Crow
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1124	Posted - 2014.11.17 08:54:00 - [20] - Quote REs have tons of issues. Blast radius too large (if in fact they are a/v as they claim this is not needed) Sentinels not getting resistances Refilled by nanohives and supply depots (no other equipment is) Random sliding when place around an objective that leaves them immune to flux and EYES Can be frisbee tossed many meters which actually seems to count off of the activation timer while they are flying If only two of these issues got fixed maybe they would be more in line, I am not even pointing at any specific item from the list. This is Scout 514 and the r/e benefits the scout so I can not say I expect to see any thing done about them.

Izlare Lenix Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 1126	Posted - 2014.11.17 09:56:00 - [21] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: REs have tons of issues. Blast radius too large (if in fact they are a/v as they claim this is not needed) Sentinels not getting resistances Refilled by nanohives and supply depots (no other equipment is) Random sliding when place around an objective that leaves them immune to flux and EYES Can be frisbee tossed many meters which actually seems to count off of the activation timer while they are flying If only two of these issues got fixed maybe they would be more in line, I am not even pointing at any specific item from the list. This is Scout 514 and the r/e benefits the scout so I can not say I expect to see any thing done about them. All of these problems need to be addressed but for me the biggest problem is these teleporting REs. It is so aggravating to watch a scout toss an RE at a friendly, see that it landed nowhere near you, go to flux said RE only to be blown up because somehow that RE is now under your feet. There is no way to counter something that isn't actually where you think it is. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3550	Posted - 2014.11.17 10:17:00 - [22] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: RE's are fine. However, Sentinel resistances aren't applying to equipment, so the RE insta pops them. As much as I hate heavy spam, there is a problem in the coding, and it needs to be fixed. To fix heavy spam, I think heavies need a slight HP nerf, and spawn time nerf. With your connection probably you see RE in the same position where people drop them. With my connection i see RE in a place, then they magically teleport a few meters away from their original position. Then the problem is your crappy connection, not the game. As for the whole invulnerable to explosives thing, as Madbomber myself I guarantee you they are not immune. The amount of times I've commited suicide deploying an RE over an enemy grenade is too many to count. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3550	Posted - 2014.11.17 10:34:00 - [23] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: REs have tons of issues. Blast radius too large (if in fact they are a/v as they claim this is not needed) If anything blast radius is too small (smaller than a grenade), furthermore the blast radius has a further tendency to glitch to 0, not killing someone stood directly on it. Sentinels not getting resistances This is probably for the best, Sentinels aren't meant to be door kickers and RE's are area denial. In reality if you are Ant's nesting RE's are the counter to your gameplay. Refilled by nanohives and supply depots (no other equipment is) Probably because no other equipment does damage. Futhermore the only other equipmemt that needs restocking, the nanohive, is restockable by simply reselecting your suit from the depot. Random sliding when place around an objective that leaves them immune to flux and EYES This was fixed, what you may instead be experiemce is when an RE clips through the cannon to sit under the console. Can be frisbee tossed many meters which actually seems to count off of the activation timer while they are flying This has been fixed, once more I can attest to this. You can test it yourself, find a tall building like the towers in line harvest. You can not detonate the RE's before they stop moving AND THEN arm. If only two of these issues got fixed maybe they would be more in line, I am not even pointing at any specific item from the list. The fact your complaining about stuff that's already been fixed, would say otherwise. This is Scout 514 and the r/e benefits the scout so I can not say I expect to see any thing done about them. Hah please, it's not that RE's benifit scouts, it's that they are effeftive verses heavies. God forbid something should be capable of 5-10 people packing themselves into small rooms like sardines right? Now I'll know what your gonna say. Use a Mass Driver or plasma cannon. Next time you play the Research facility domination, and you have the enemy team ant's nesting in the supply depot bunker, with sentinels running with well over a thousand armour, you show me Scout 514 there. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
H0riz0n Unlimit Dead Man's Game 200	Posted - 2014.11.17 11:45:00 - [24] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: shaman oga wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: RE's are fine. However, Sentinel resistances aren't applying to equipment, so the RE insta pops them. As much as I hate heavy spam, there is a problem in the coding, and it needs to be fixed. To fix heavy spam, I think heavies need a slight HP nerf, and spawn time nerf. With your connection probably you see RE in the same position where people drop them. With my connection i see RE in a place, then they magically teleport a few meters away from their original position. Then the problem is your crappy connection, not the game. As for the whole invulnerable to explosives thing, as Madbomber myself I guarantee you they are not immune. The amount of times I've commited suicide deploying an RE over an enemy grenade is too many to count. So if i kill you with my crappy connection i should be rewarded more than you, but these are broken mechanics that need to be fixed, despite connection issues The KTM DuKe lives here, send a message after the "beep". TheD1ck is on the table fan club. MPRQ-MakingPeopleRageQuit
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17737	Posted - 2014.11.17 12:09:00 - [25] - Quote It's a Desync; the RE did not teleport; just your client got told a totally false story. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 1015	Posted - 2014.11.17 12:29:00 - [26] - Quote How much we can prove a simple thing - RE can not be used like a grenade. This powerful device not a box of crisps - preparation for activation must take time !!!!! Rattati, FIX IT PLEASE!!!! Please support fair play!
shaman oga The Dunwich Horror 3206	Posted - 2014.11.17 12:31:00 - [27] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: It's a Desync; the RE did not teleport; just your client got told a totally false story. You can call it desync or teleport, the effect is the same. Since it doesn't happen only to me, i guess CCP should care about the situation and do something. The easiest thing would be increase the time before activation, enough to let every client update and show the real position of the RE.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1529	Posted - 2014.11.17 13:24:00 - [28] - Quote True Adamance wrote: shaman oga wrote: My line is not the best, but CCP you actually don't give a ** about a broken game mechanic. How much time does it have to pass to fix this *? There is no counter. Flux? > immune till they reach their position Explosives weapons? > immune till they reach their position Scan? > invisible till they reach their position If JLAVs remain the most viable means of anti vehicle ordinance in the game and I have to tolerate that...you certainly can tolerate this. No. JLAVs are not that good. Easy to counter and even without counter they often just plain fail. JLAV success ratio is far less than 50%. Far. Two best counters to vehicles are: - LAV with two man forge team in - Missile tank, with preferably AV as a pilot People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change*
Echo 1991 WarRavens Capital Punishment. 564	Posted - 2014.11.17 13:33:00 - [29] - Quote I'm fairly certain it teleports because of the fact as soon as the arm timer finishes it lands at the end of its trajectory. At least thats what I have noticed.
Mejt0 Hollywood Undead. 510	Posted - 2014.11.17 13:51:00 - [30] - Quote It's more of a animation issues. I guess. But you still can guess where it will land. Under your feets in other words. Just rush straight to scout. If you are heavy, then it's one of the counters for ya. Ps. RE is and should be like that. Effective versus vehicles but also as good versus infiantry. Sentiniels are running everywhere. I dunno why they gave them any kind of resistaces. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.

shaman oga The Dunwich Horror 3210	Posted - 2014.11.17 14:10:00 - [31] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: It's more of a animation issues. I guess. But you still can guess where it will land. Under your feets in other words. Just rush straight to scout. If you are heavy, then it's one of the counters for ya. Ps. RE is and should be like that. Effective versus vehicles but also as good versus infiantry. Sentiniels are running everywhere. I dunno why they gave them any kind of resistaces. I have no problems with traps, RE should one shot like they do. I have problems with teleporting traps. I have problems with nanohives which can resupply RE (why can't i resupply my uplinks with a nano?)
Ryme Intrinseca Dead Man's Game RUST415 2010	Posted - 2014.11.17 14:11:00 - [32] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: It's a Desync; the RE did not teleport; just your client got told a totally false story. A false story which resulted in your character getting OHKed. In other words, the netcode failed horribly. If they can't fix the glitch directly they should increase the arm time to 5 seconds, so there is time for the client to catch up.
H0riz0n Unlimit Dead Man's Game 201	Posted - 2014.11.17 16:11:00 - [33] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: True Adamance wrote: shaman oga wrote: My line is not the best, but CCP you actually don't give a ** about a broken game mechanic. How much time does it have to pass to fix this **? There is no counter. Flux? > immune till they reach their position Explosives weapons? > immune till they reach their position Scan? > invisible till they reach their position If JLAVs remain the most viable means of anti vehicle ordinance in the game and I have to tolerate that...you certainly can tolerate this. No. JLAVs are not that good. Easy to counter and even without counter they often just plain fail. JLAV success ratio is far less than 50%. Far. Two best counters to vehicles are: - LAV with two man forge team in - Missile tank, with preferably AV as a pilot It depends kero, if a Jlav get you from behind is not so easy The KTM DuKe lives here, send a message after the "beep". TheD1ck is on the table fan club. MPRQ-MakingPeopleRageQuit
Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 38	Posted - 2014.11.17 16:55:00 - [34] - Quote I would like it if the blast radius of the REs was reduced and I would like to be able to shoot them to blow them up without them hurting my teammates. I have run across REs that I am not able to neutralize because I have unaware teammates dancing on top of them.


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