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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.11.16 15:50:00 -
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Patrilicus wrote:My roomate is proto Minmando but he finds that the range on the swarms isn't far enough, it has problems locking on when the dropship is near enemy buildings (cru, supply depot, etc) and that swarms are just too easy to avoid.
I think it is silly that you cant use swarms to destory a neutral building.
175 meter lock with 400 meter travel isn't long enough?
@_@
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.16 16:32:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Patrilicus wrote:My roomate is proto Minmando but he finds that the range on the swarms isn't far enough, it has problems locking on when the dropship is near enemy buildings (cru, supply depot, etc) and that swarms are just too easy to avoid.
I think it is silly that you cant use swarms to destory a neutral building. 175 meter lock with 400 meter travel isn't long enough? @_@ rail ads can stay out above 175m and still get kills if your accurate enough
Please share your videos of you killin a swarmer at 175 meters with a front mounted rail turret.....
A gunner may be able to if he's lucky, but most not bad AVers ride around in LAVs
People who want more lock on range for swamrs just out themselves as bad AV players. Everyone knows good AV waits till you're good and close to maximize the time they can deal damage to you. Any good pilot who sees AV coming from a distance will move away. So, git gud
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.11.16 18:16:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:White-Lion wrote:Some words Fun thought experiment: Why are swarms virtually never used in PC.
Because damage stacked rail tanks and tower forges take up most AV slots.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.11.16 19:15:00 -
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Actually it's because damaged stacked rails are sill OP (2 shot almost any fit before pilot can even respond) and tower forges can also shoot at objectives.
Swarms actually are insanely powerful with effortless damage application, but PC is mostly about infantry holding points. You put on the bare minimum AV, and use AV that can also fight infantry
Thats it
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2014.11.17 18:39:00 -
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White-Lion wrote:Either way, I still think swarms are highly unbalanced against armor vehicles to the point that it almost makes them useless. I don't want swarms to be nerfed in to the ground, but I think some rebalancing is needed.
I think that they should just remove efficiency and inefficiency until they decide to finally put the rest of the weapons in game
I dont care if "because EVE", this is what we have NOW, and its unbalanced
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2014.11.18 03:28:00 -
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White-Lion wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:White-Lion wrote:Either way, I still think swarms are highly unbalanced against armor vehicles to the point that it almost makes them useless. I don't want swarms to be nerfed in to the ground, but I think some rebalancing is needed. I think that they should just remove efficiency and inefficiency until they decide to finally put the rest of the weapons in game I dont care if "because EVE", this is what we have NOW, and its unbalanced Ehh, that wouldn't work. That would just put all the rifles for example, on the same standard as each other. Making it so the best weapon is the one with the highest dps on the suit with the most ehp.
I just meant for AV. Infantry weapons are even enough, unlike AV whcih is strongly stacked against armor
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:24:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:White-Lion wrote:
Popped a number of vehicles using Rail
Numb of vehicles
Vehicles
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Vehicles aren't the problem, it's infantry that can't be touched by rails.
dropshops are not meant as easy kills against infantry. git gud and deal with it.
Swarm user detected
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:51:00 -
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That would be a partly fair argument if we had a full suite of AV weapons, instead of the vast majority being anti armor
That also doesn't address swarms being TOO effective vs Armor
I dont expect you of all people to acknowledge an imbalance that works in your favor, particularly against vehicles, considering your answer is "stop using vehicles". You're notorious for not understanding vehicles, but happily chiming in to get them nerfed at every turn
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2014.11.18 22:28:00 -
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ghy6tr4 wrote:Honestly, OP.....I personally feel like ADS should be worried about AV. I feel like its balanced perfectly.
You ADS pilots want to sit in the sky and be totally untouchable while you rain down missiles upon infantry and you want a fair shake. However, that in of itself is hardly a fair shake. Boots on the ground where its a 50/50 shot each time is much more fair.
So yes, AV SHOULD be over powered....it SHOULD be very hard to ADS if you plan to sit nestled in your little piece of the sky and rack up kills for your KDR.
Fly away little birdie, fly away :D
You don't even have the balls to troll on your main? Get in a dropship and let us show you how bad you are
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