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Mejt0
Puff n Puffers
504
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Posted - 2014.11.16 13:43:00 -
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Maybe then people would stop qq about cloakers.
Right now people with headphones can tell if someone decloak behind them. I died many times because of decloak sound or knives charging sound.
Ps. Playing any fps without headphones is like playing with disadvantage. In dust it's not that big deal but it always helps.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox
456
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Posted - 2014.11.16 13:47:00 -
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because you can hear a cloaked scout when theres 5 other people around you all moveing as well now I use a surround sound headset. so unless iam out away by myself with no one else around and standing still so I don't hear my self moveing and there nothing showing on radar then sure. its a cloaked scout comeing from somewhere. but lol,no you do not hear them around even 2+ people.
Elite Gallenten Soldier
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dzizur
6 dayz
111
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Posted - 2014.11.16 14:00:00 -
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yeah.... if only we had different volume sliders for all the voice chat ;)
seriously though, from what I hear on comms, people are rarely even playing in headphones, not to mention listening to music at the same time etc ;P
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Mejt0
Puff n Puffers
504
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Posted - 2014.11.16 14:00:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:because you can hear a cloaked scout when theres 5 other people around you all moveing as well now I use a surround sound headset. so unless iam out away by myself with no one else around and standing still so I don't hear my self moveing and there nothing showing on radar then sure. its a cloaked scout comeing from somewhere. but lol,no you do not hear them around even 2+ people.
If there are 5 people around you (squad of course) then scout won't do anything. Even if he will score a kill then rest will kill him and revive the dead one.
And yes they can hear decloak around other people. You have to adjust ingame sound settings.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
718
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Posted - 2014.11.16 14:00:00 -
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Agreed
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Louis Domi
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
782
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Posted - 2014.11.16 14:03:00 -
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Make sure scouts fully decloak before shooting = Less cloak qq |
Mejt0
Puff n Puffers
504
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Posted - 2014.11.16 14:04:00 -
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dzizur wrote:yeah.... if only we had different volume sliders for all the voice chat ;)
seriously though, from what I hear on comms, people are rarely even playing in headphones, not to mention listening to music at the same time etc ;P
Well if someone play as a scout, he can listen to music :). I play with almost no sound because of damn headset catching all that sound.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
389
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Posted - 2014.11.16 14:06:00 -
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If you play solo, then yes, headphones helps. But good luck catching that decloak sound on the ccal cout who detected you 50 m away passively and opens up with his kalikiota rail
If you play in a with friends, then no. I'm trying to commnicate and not have my own tv blasting though my headpiece.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
293
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Posted - 2014.11.16 14:10:00 -
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The real meta k/b and headphones who knew.
The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
298
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Posted - 2014.11.16 14:10:00 -
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The real meta k/b and headphones who knew.
The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
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Spectral Clone
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3120
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Posted - 2014.11.16 14:22:00 -
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You can hear footsteps also.
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dzizur
6 dayz
111
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Posted - 2014.11.16 14:25:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote: Well if someone play as a scout, he can listen to music :). I play with almost no sound because of damn headset catching all that sound.
I would say quite the opposite, when I'm in my scout suit I sometimes even stop for a second to check out if I can hear other footsteps nearby. While in a assault or some other hp buffer, I don't have to because I'm trying to stick to a squad or at least other blueberries, so that makes shotty clackers useless ;)
@BFM
K/b meta? You're playing Legion already? O_o
EDIT: Btw. one of the (I think Gallente) sockets has wrong footsteps sound, it sounds like you are walking on grass :) |
JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
162
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Posted - 2014.11.16 14:29:00 -
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Ok. Buy my kid diapers and pay my car insurance and I'll buy headphones. |
hold that
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
392
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Posted - 2014.11.16 14:33:00 -
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Hey guys we made a item that forces you to use headphones to combat |
dzizur
6 dayz
111
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Posted - 2014.11.16 14:37:00 -
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blueberry from future wrote:Hey guys we made a item that forces you to actually play
those damn ****-developers |
Bri Bub
Eternal Beings Dark Taboo
73
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Posted - 2014.11.16 14:57:00 -
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dzizur wrote:blueberry from future wrote:Hey guys we made a item that forces you to actually play those damn fuhrer-developers (I can't post the "n" word...) Hey, well thanks for letting us know you are an ignoramus! We might not have picked up on that otherwise...
Be just and if you can't be just be arbitrary.
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
425
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Posted - 2014.11.16 15:04:00 -
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No sound because im listening to music and talking about nonsense on comms. I just play paranoid and keep moving.
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dzizur
6 dayz
111
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Posted - 2014.11.16 15:27:00 -
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Bri Bub wrote:dzizur wrote:blueberry from future wrote:Hey guys we made a item that forces you to actually play those damn fuhrer-developers (I can't post the "n" word...) Hey, well thanks for letting us know you are an ignoramus! We might not have picked up on that otherwise...
What do you mean by that? That I find that its stupid to censor the n word? |
Bri Bub
Eternal Beings Dark Taboo
73
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Posted - 2014.11.16 15:35:00 -
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dzizur wrote: What do you mean by that? That I find that its stupid to censor the n word?
This isn't K-K-K 514 but I do agree that censorship does limit the ability of the community to recognize jackoffs that feel the need to use terminology like that in an open forum... You helped us out though by pointing out you wanted to use it, so thanks for that!
Be just and if you can't be just be arbitrary.
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dzizur
6 dayz
111
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Posted - 2014.11.16 15:45:00 -
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Bri Bub wrote:dzizur wrote: What do you mean by that? That I find that its stupid to censor the n word?
This isn't K-K-K 514 but I do agree that censorship does limit the ability of the community to recognize jackoffs that feel the need to use terminology like that in an open forum... You helped us out though by pointing out you wanted to use it, so thanks for that!
So if I understood right, you feel offended by "terminology like that"? If I wrote Marxist-Leninist-developers you would feel better?
Apart from that, I wrote that as a joke (maybe a stupid one but still), and you're the one that's acting like an uneducated ***** by insulting me in the first place |
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Bri Bub
Eternal Beings Dark Taboo
74
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Posted - 2014.11.16 15:50:00 -
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dzizur wrote:Bri Bub wrote:dzizur wrote: What do you mean by that? That I find that its stupid to censor the n word?
This isn't K-K-K 514 but I do agree that censorship does limit the ability of the community to recognize jackoffs that feel the need to use terminology like that in an open forum... You helped us out though by pointing out you wanted to use it, so thanks for that! So if I understood right, you feel offended by "terminology like that"? If I wrote Marxist-Leninist-developers you would feel better? Apart from that, I wrote that as a joke (maybe a stupid one but still), and you're the one that's acting like an uneducated ***** by insulting me in the first place Your life must be fantastic!
Be just and if you can't be just be arbitrary.
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Kain Spero
Goonfeet
3835
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Posted - 2014.11.16 15:52:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Maybe then people would stop qq about cloakers.
Right now people with headphones can tell if someone decloak behind them. I died many times because of decloak sound or knives charging sound.
Ps. Playing any fps without headphones is like playing with disadvantage. In dust it's not that big deal but it always helps.
Unfortunately the decloak sound doesn't happen until AFTER the shooting starts.
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Mejt0
Expert Intervention Caldari State
506
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Posted - 2014.11.16 21:46:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Mejt0 wrote:Maybe then people would stop qq about cloakers.
Right now people with headphones can tell if someone decloak behind them. I died many times because of decloak sound or knives charging sound.
Ps. Playing any fps without headphones is like playing with disadvantage. In dust it's not that big deal but it always helps. Unfortunately the decloak sound doesn't happen until AFTER the shooting starts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-jnU96Tif4
I don't know how exactly it sounds, but as i told peoeple turn back as fast as i decloak. And it was actualy in town, so yea they can hear that.
(to be clear, i was under 15db)
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1288
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Posted - 2014.11.16 22:04:00 -
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Bri Bub wrote:dzizur wrote: What do you mean by that? That I find that its stupid to censor the n word?
This isn't K-K-K 514 but I do agree that censorship does limit the ability of the community to recognize jackoffs that feel the need to use terminology like that in an open forum... You helped us out though by pointing out you wanted to use it, so thanks for that!
While a silly argument, the problem here is the mistaken N-word. Kind of funny actually.
Because, that's why.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
17733
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Posted - 2014.11.16 22:06:00 -
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Sound related issues prevent this from being useful.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
5962
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Posted - 2014.11.16 23:21:00 -
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Is it really that hard to see a giant blue blob running straight at you?
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
85
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Posted - 2014.11.16 23:30:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Maybe then people would stop qq about cloakers.
Right now people with headphones can tell if someone decloak behind them. I died many times because of decloak sound or knives charging sound.
Ps. Playing any fps without headphones is like playing with disadvantage. In dust it's not that big deal but it always helps.
Cloaked shotty ninja doesn't belong in this game at all sound or no. Make EVE ARENA or DUST TOURNAMENT. Problem solved, everybody happy.
I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
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Zaria Min Deir
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
856
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Posted - 2014.11.16 23:42:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Mejt0 wrote:Maybe then people would stop qq about cloakers.
Right now people with headphones can tell if someone decloak behind them. I died many times because of decloak sound or knives charging sound.
Ps. Playing any fps without headphones is like playing with disadvantage. In dust it's not that big deal but it always helps. Unfortunately the decloak sound doesn't happen until AFTER the shooting starts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-jnU96Tif4 Well, Kane, that is what your crystal ball is for, duh...
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Sound related issues prevent this from being useful. Pretty much this. And yes, I use a headset, always have, and I know exactly how useful sound effects can be even in Dust... but only when they work correctly.
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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D4GG3R
Fatal Absolution
517
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Posted - 2014.11.16 23:45:00 -
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Zaria Min Deir wrote:Kain Spero wrote:Mejt0 wrote:Maybe then people would stop qq about cloakers.
Right now people with headphones can tell if someone decloak behind them. I died many times because of decloak sound or knives charging sound.
Ps. Playing any fps without headphones is like playing with disadvantage. In dust it's not that big deal but it always helps. Unfortunately the decloak sound doesn't happen until AFTER the shooting starts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-jnU96Tif4 Well, Kane, that is what your crystal ball is for, duh... Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Sound related issues prevent this from being useful. Pretty much this. And yes, I use a headset, always have, and I know exactly how useful sound effects can be even in Dust... but only when they work correctly.
I find they work very well about 11% of the time <3
I'm pretty plain.
I watch anime for the boobs
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
3476
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Posted - 2014.11.16 23:49:00 -
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Multiple members on the CPM have stated that their is an issue where sounds made behind you are not registering, so how am I supposed to here a sound that makes no noise.
Fatal Absolution Director
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D4GG3R
Fatal Absolution
517
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Posted - 2014.11.17 00:14:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Multiple members on the CPM have stated that their is an issue where sounds made behind you are not registering, so how am I supposed to here a sound that makes no noise.
Very carefully
I'm pretty plain.
I watch anime for the boobs
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
407
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Posted - 2014.11.17 00:29:00 -
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No because you can't be a viable scout in this metagame without a cloak.
F*k this cash grab fix the shit that matters: unkillable uplinks, invisible remotes on null cannon hack panels, etc.
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Z3dog
BIG BAD W0LVES
13
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Posted - 2014.11.17 01:28:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Maybe then people would stop qq about cloakers.
Right now people with headphones can tell if someone decloak behind them. I died many times because of decloak sound or knives charging sound.
Ps. Playing any fps without headphones is like playing with disadvantage. In dust it's not that big deal but it always helps. If you want to play a game where hardware gives advantages go play a computer fps.
CCP should not be putting items in game that are impossible to see in standard definition and impossible to hear without good headphones.
Dust 5/14
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dzizur
6 dayz
114
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Posted - 2014.11.17 05:25:00 -
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Z3dog wrote:Mejt0 wrote:Maybe then people would stop qq about cloakers.
Right now people with headphones can tell if someone decloak behind them. I died many times because of decloak sound or knives charging sound.
Ps. Playing any fps without headphones is like playing with disadvantage. In dust it's not that big deal but it always helps. If you want to play a game where hardware gives advantages go play a computer fps. CCP should not be putting items in game that are impossible to see in standard definition and impossible to hear without good headphones.
Dude, it's like you're saying "Dust display should always scale to 10x10 cm, so people with big a$$ tvs dont have an advantage", thats BS and you know it. Same goes to better microphone, game controler (original DS3 deadzone in dust is about 30% of its space). Hell even if you have a better sofa and food you'll probably play better than someone hungry sitting on the floor.. :P |
Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
4600
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Posted - 2014.11.17 05:38:00 -
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As others have already said...the decloak sound plays AFTER the scout has gotten 2 shotgun shots off.
Not only that but the noise around you in a CQC environment can prevent you from hearing the blast as well.
This happens to me ALL the time.
I hear no footsteps...no decloak...
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NextDark Knight
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
612
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Posted - 2014.11.17 09:10:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:As others have already said...the decloak sound plays AFTER the scout has gotten 2 shotgun shots off.
Not only that but the noise around you in a CQC environment can prevent you from hearing the blast as well.
This happens to me ALL the time.
I hear no footsteps...no decloak...
Out of all the bugs in dust I have never ever ran into this problem. I just reviewed my recordings from 1.9 and the sounds always works for me.
Over 60+ Million SP and full proto in all Caldari Suits. Dust just won't die on PS3/Xbox. Dustin since 6/29/2012
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1766
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Posted - 2014.11.17 09:21:00 -
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Cloak QQ won't stop until it is no longer possible for any weapon to be fired while cloaked; as I just found out in-game a few minutes ago, it's not just the shotgun that can do it. I tested the AR, CR, ScR, and SMG and each one can fire while cloaked. All you got to do is tap the trigger until it starts firing; full-auto weapons won't fire if you just hold down the trigger but if you tap until it starts firing you can then hold down the trigger and it'll keep firing.
I'm surprised Maynard hasn't been assassinated yet.
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Jack McReady
Dust University Ivy League
1638
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Posted - 2014.11.17 10:56:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Maybe then people would stop qq about cloakers.
Right now people with headphones can tell if someone decloak behind them. I died many times because of decloak sound or knives charging sound.
Ps. Playing any fps without headphones is like playing with disadvantage. In dust it's not that big deal but it always helps. I have an expensive surround sound system, your headphones are for sure crap compared to it and I can hear cloak sounds fine.
does not change the fact that a cloaking scout can headshot you for 7xx damage before any sound is played on your end. he can do it twice before cloak animation finishes.
beside that, there is still the bug where no shotgun or cloak sounds are played from a cloaked suit on regular basis.
in short: your point is invalid. |
Mejt0
Hollywood Undead.
510
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Posted - 2014.11.17 14:11:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Mejt0 wrote:Maybe then people would stop qq about cloakers.
Right now people with headphones can tell if someone decloak behind them. I died many times because of decloak sound or knives charging sound.
Ps. Playing any fps without headphones is like playing with disadvantage. In dust it's not that big deal but it always helps. I have an expensive surround sound system, your headphones are for sure crap compared to it and I can hear cloak sounds fine. does not change the fact that a cloaking scout can headshot you for 7xx damage before any sound is played on your end. he can do it twice before cloak animation finishes. beside that, there is still the bug where no shotgun or cloak sounds are played from a cloaked suit on regular basis. in short: your point is invalid.
My point is valid.
And it doesn't really matter how expensive surround sound system you will have. I'd bet that guy with like 20-30$ headphones will hear as much as you. The only difference would be quality of the sound.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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Mejt0
Hollywood Undead.
510
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Posted - 2014.11.17 14:26:00 -
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Z3dog wrote:Mejt0 wrote:Maybe then people would stop qq about cloakers.
Right now people with headphones can tell if someone decloak behind them. I died many times because of decloak sound or knives charging sound.
Ps. Playing any fps without headphones is like playing with disadvantage. In dust it's not that big deal but it always helps. If you want to play a game where hardware gives advantages go play a computer fps. CCP should not be putting items in game that are impossible to see in standard definition and impossible to hear without good headphones.
Just read what you wrote, and then read what i writen. It will help you to hear cloaks if you have very bad sight. Cuz they are easy to spot.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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Jack McReady
Dust University Ivy League
1638
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Posted - 2014.11.17 14:53:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote: And it doesn't really matter how expensive surround sound system you will have. I'd bet that someone in headphones for 20-30$ will hear as much as you. The only difference would be quality of the sound.
I will repeat it just for you, maybe your scrub brain manages to compute it ... you can kill suits before the other player can hear the sound
sounds of cloaked players are often not played
point invalid, deal with it.
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Mejt0
Hollywood Undead.
510
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:39:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Mejt0 wrote: And it doesn't really matter how expensive surround sound system you will have. I'd bet that someone in headphones for 20-30$ will hear as much as you. The only difference would be quality of the sound.
I will repeat it just for you, maybe your scrub brain manages to compute it ... you can kill suits before the other player can hear the sound sounds of cloaked players are often not played point invalid, deal with it.
Yes they are played.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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Jack McReady
Dust University Ivy League
1638
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:40:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Mejt0 wrote: And it doesn't really matter how expensive surround sound system you will have. I'd bet that someone in headphones for 20-30$ will hear as much as you. The only difference would be quality of the sound.
I will repeat it just for you, maybe your scrub brain manages to compute it ... you can kill suits before the other player can hear the sound sounds of cloaked players are often not played point invalid, deal with it. Yes they are played. not sure if troll or just stu..... |
LAVALLOIS Nash
QcGOLD
289
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Posted - 2014.11.17 17:39:00 -
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dzizur wrote:yeah.... if only we had different volume sliders for all the voice chat ;)
seriously though, from what I hear on comms, people are rarely even playing in headphones, not to mention listening to music at the same time etc ;P
Its essentially a clash of ideologies. Most players who are upset about the cloak are casuals who sign on for a few hours every now and then to just have some mindless fun and log off. They dont care about their long term record, they dont care about how the community perceives them, all they want is a bit of short term fun and then log off.
Cloak users are for the most part people who take video games seriously. Its what they plan to do their whole life. The only thing that matters to them is self worth and a stat sheet they can show to others or whack off to in private. If all you seek is numbers and a sense of "wow! I can accomplish something!", then turning yourself invisible and going around shooting people in the back is for you.
So its only natural that a cloak user will employ every single advantage in their surrounding gaming area (Fancy headset, darkened room, aftermarket keyboard/controller, steady supply of energy drinks, possible narcotics, ect. A casual user is not going to go through all those steps, because they aren't here to win at all costs and brag, they are just here to put on some music and put a smile on their face.
If casuals get too frustrated by cloaks, they dont go buy a Turtle Beach headset and a case to Redbull to "stop the qq". They will just go play something else. Which prettymcuh solves the cloak problem, because after long enough of it, there wont be any players in this game to hide from anymore. |
Mejt0
Hollywood Undead.
512
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Posted - 2014.11.18 00:48:00 -
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Up.
Cloak is used for fun. It's for running around the map and playing cat and mice with redberries.
People who constantly run full proto, and do crazy things just to win, are the ones who take this game too seriously.
Rest of us play for fun. We don't get mad because of lose or any kind of spam. Cuz we have other things on our heads.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
4566
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Posted - 2014.11.18 01:11:00 -
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One, you don't always hear the sound, as noted.
Two, and more importantly..... please pay attention, this is important for your clouded mind to understand:
It doesn't even matter if it does. WTF do I want to be forced to use headphones to deal with an otherwise totally broken mechanic? I have kids. I need to be able to hear what's going on in the f*cking house. You may be some neckbeard living in your parent's basement with nothing better to do than insulate yourself from your otherwise sad existence with headphones in a dark room, but some of us have actual lives and responsibilities.
What an attractive proposition you are making.... Hey! Don't like cloaks? No worries, just do something else you don't like! Problem solved!
Great solution, dumbass.
Here's a novel idea... fix the broken game mechanic instead. It's a tough concept to understand, I know. Give it time to sink in... we'll wait.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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maluble
Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance
174
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Posted - 2014.11.18 05:35:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Maybe then people would stop qq about cloakers.
Right now people with headphones can tell if someone decloak behind them. I died many times because of decloak sound or knives charging sound.
Ps. Playing any fps without headphones is like playing with disadvantage. In dust it's not that big deal but it always helps.
Wrong i am still getting shotgunned by still cloaked scouts so i dont hear **** and i wear headphones. Im a min scout with knives i dont get to knife people while still cloaked. |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
2617
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Posted - 2014.11.18 05:41:00 -
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"And if you contrast your TV so all colors are super muted other than blue, you can see all Cloaked Scouts."
I am curious what this has to do about any kind of balance though. If it isn't an option that is open to most everyone, it probably should not be put in the game as a sense of balance. As a person that is favorably described as "damn near deaf", I hate when games do that sound based crap. I had to cheat in Skyrim for non-breaking lockpicks because I can't hear the audio clue that apparently exists even with pricy headphones.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2309
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Posted - 2014.11.18 05:54:00 -
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NextDark Knight wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:As others have already said...the decloak sound plays AFTER the scout has gotten 2 shotgun shots off.
Not only that but the noise around you in a CQC environment can prevent you from hearing the blast as well.
This happens to me ALL the time.
I hear no footsteps...no decloak... Out of all the bugs in dust I have never ever ran into this problem. I just reviewed my recordings from 1.9 and the sounds always works for me. Have to agree - mostly.
Whether i survive or not, the decloak/footsteps almost always gave me enough warning to get moving. Although it does seem recently if the scout is camped very close and doesn't need to move, just decloak and fire, there's not enough time to turn around.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Mejt0
Hollywood Undead.
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Posted - 2014.11.18 23:58:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:One, you don't always hear the sound, as noted.
Two, and more importantly..... please pay attention, this is important for your clouded mind to understand:
It doesn't even matter if it does. WTF do I want to be forced to use headphones to deal with an otherwise totally broken mechanic? I have kids. I need to be able to hear what's going on in the f*cking house. You may be some neckbeard living in your parent's basement with nothing better to do than insulate yourself from your otherwise sad existence with headphones in a dark room, but some of us have actual lives and responsibilities.
What an attractive proposition you are making.... Hey! Don't like cloaks? No worries, just do something else you don't like! Problem solved!
Great solution, dumbass.
Here's a novel idea... fix the broken game mechanic instead. It's a tough concept to understand, I know. Give it time to sink in... we'll wait.
Learn to read properly. I said it helps if someone is bad and can't see them. And you wrote about your life, how awesome you think you are and how you think you are better than me.
In short i wrote : Headphones helps dealing with cloaks Your reaction : omg! I have kids dumbass! Wtf are you writing nerd! Ow i am so better than others!
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
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Posted - 2014.11.19 00:02:00 -
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No, my reaction is, if I need to wear headphones to deal with a broken mechanic that's not a logical solution. Forcing someone to change their physical out of game environment to adjust to an in-game flaw is not justifiable.
If you don't see that then I can't help you.
(p.s. Nice try accusing me of a superiority complex and then saying you only need headphones "if you're bad." Call kettle black much?)
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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Mejt0
Hollywood Undead.
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Posted - 2014.11.19 15:41:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:No, my reaction is, if I need to wear headphones to deal with a broken mechanic that's not a logical solution. Forcing someone to change their physical out of game environment to adjust to an in-game flaw is not justifiable.
If you don't see that then I can't help you.
(p.s. Nice try accusing me of a superiority complex and then saying you only need headphones "if you're bad." Call kettle black much?)
Nobody have to wear headphones to deal with cloaks. And by writing ,,if you're bad,, i mean people that don't use their eyes.
Cuz cloaks aren't hard to spot in towns. They are however hard to spot on open fields when there is strong sunlight. But people complain more about town cloakers.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
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Posted - 2014.11.19 16:30:00 -
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So,
- There are a fair amount of open spaces in this game, CCP's map designers appear to like them a lot.
- If you don't need headphones to deal with cloaks, why are you suggesting it as a way to deal with them? That's contradictory.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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Mejt0
Hollywood Undead.
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Posted - 2014.11.19 18:26:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:So,
- There are a fair amount of open spaces in this game, CCP's map designers appear to like them a lot.
- If you don't need headphones to deal with cloaks, why are you suggesting it as a way to deal with them? That's contradictory.
Most of the action is in towns, sentiniels land. Maybe there is also some space for scouts, but not much.
I suggested it because people killed me by hearing me. So others can try it, and if it won't help them, then just play as always.
Nobody here writes straight rules how to play.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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