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DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5946	Posted - 2014.11.16 05:58:00 - [1] - Quote For some reason the recoil of this weapon does not match up AT ALL with the actual path of the projectiles. Why? Probably balance. A similar recoil mechanic has been used in other shooters to make weapons only visually inaccurate. So to anyone that calls the Assault Scrambler Rifle bad at range, just remember that you should aim where the center of your screen is; not where the sights are pointung after the first shot. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7912	Posted - 2014.11.16 06:45:00 - [2] - Quote Side Note: I'm really glad that there is someone on this forum that knows the difference between Precision and Accuracy. Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in! FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 13245	Posted - 2014.11.16 06:51:00 - [3] - Quote I've been saying that from the start. I did tests, people just kept ignoring what I say. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5955	Posted - 2014.11.16 16:34:00 - [4] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Side Note: I'm really glad that there is someone on this forum that knows the difference between Precision and Accuracy. That middle school science though. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Spectral Clone Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3123	Posted - 2014.11.16 17:09:00 - [5] - Quote https://airdropgaming.com/hipshotdot OP EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
Zindorak Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 1291	Posted - 2014.11.16 17:17:00 - [6] - Quote AScR is bad lets face it Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Gk0 Scout yay :)
Spectral Clone Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3123	Posted - 2014.11.16 17:24:00 - [7] - Quote Zindorak wrote: AScR is bad lets face it indeed. very bad. EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
zzZaXxx Vengeance Unbound 660	Posted - 2014.11.16 17:34:00 - [8] - Quote You are fools. See me in game and I will drill you down with my 72 clip at 8000m. OP, thanks for the tip on the reticule.
JIMvc2 The Wanga Empire Strikes Back 405	Posted - 2014.11.16 17:43:00 - [9] - Quote I got a chance to play yesterday and to be honest My aiming was sooo bad that I was aiming at the wall xD When college keeps me busy = Its good but when I come back to Dust 514 = omg ;_; MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5959	Posted - 2014.11.16 18:23:00 - [10] - Quote Zindorak wrote: AScR is bad lets face it If people think it's difficult to use, then good. It just means that it won't get nerfed. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.

Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 13246	Posted - 2014.11.16 18:34:00 - [11] - Quote The ASCR is a great Assault weapon if you just look at the stats. Get your head around the fact that the recoil is visual (It has zero to very little actual recoil from my tests), and you will be destroying things. Largest clip, most damage per clip, fastest reload time, second longest range, probably the best sight for an Assault weapon (Red dot) and decent DPS.* *In comparison to other Assault variants Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4608	Posted - 2014.11.16 18:42:00 - [12] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Side Note: I'm really glad that there is someone on this forum that knows the difference between Precision and Accuracy. That middle school science though. All I remember from middle school is the components of stars and how different bars means certain types of chemicals. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5959	Posted - 2014.11.16 18:53:00 - [13] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Side Note: I'm really glad that there is someone on this forum that knows the difference between Precision and Accuracy. That middle school science though. All I remember from middle school is the components of stars and how different bars means certain types of chemicals. I remember Algebra... Good times Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4944	Posted - 2014.11.16 19:00:00 - [14] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: The ASCR is a great Assault weapon if you just look at the stats. Get your head around the fact that the recoil is visual (It has zero to very little actual recoil from my tests), and you will be destroying things. Largest clip, most damage per clip, fastest reload time, second longest range, probably the best sight for an Assault weapon (Red dot) and decent DPS.* *In comparison to other Assault variants Worst weapon choice possible against most targets because large amounts of armor make up the majority of dropsuit loadouts in the game, and it gets an incredible penalty to armor. Add to the fact that armor HP is higher than shield HP in general, and it is a very ineffective weapon for killing anything other than scouts.
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1750	Posted - 2014.11.16 19:06:00 - [15] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Side Note: I'm really glad that there is someone on this forum that knows the difference between Precision and Accuracy. That middle school science though. All I remember from middle school is the components of stars and how different bars means certain types of chemicals. I remember Algebra... Good times I remember a couple getting suspended cause they were getting freaky in the boys restroom. I'm surprised Maynard hasn't been assassinated yet. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
Spectral Clone Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3126	Posted - 2014.11.16 19:39:00 - [16] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The ASCR is a great Assault weapon if you just look at the stats. Get your head around the fact that the recoil is visual (It has zero to very little actual recoil from my tests), and you will be destroying things. Largest clip, most damage per clip, fastest reload time, second longest range, probably the best sight for an Assault weapon (Red dot) and decent DPS.* *In comparison to other Assault variants Worst weapon choice possible against most targets because large amounts of armor make up the majority of dropsuit loadouts in the game, and it gets an incredible penalty to armor. Add to the fact that armor HP is higher than shield HP in general, and it is a very ineffective weapon for killing anything other than scouts. Nope. Triple Light dmg mods care to disagree. EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
I-Shayz-I I----------I 5078	Posted - 2014.11.16 19:42:00 - [17] - Quote I made this video 11 months ago to show this: http://youtu.be/hrVDPmIhkx8 The ASCR has always been UP simply because it has that weird recoil mechanic where it bounces the reticle around everywhere just slightly enough that you end up losing out on a lot of DPS because of it. Why do weapons like the breach AR not have this mechanic to prevent them being used as sniping weapons? The RR has a similar recoil, alongside barrel climb. The ASCR fortunately doesn't have barrel climb but it does kick all over the place for such a low zoom weapon that's supposed to be used at range. I remember back when my Carthum was my baby. Holy ** that thing destroyed Caldari Logistics like they were mlt frames. Now there are so many armor frames and prof 5 doesn't give you 15% armor damage, so it just doesn't work very well anymore. 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!**
Chief-Shotty WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 383	Posted - 2014.11.16 19:57:00 - [18] - Quote LOL why would you use an assault scrambler? Everyone who uses the scrambler knows a turbo scrambler rifle is the true assault scrambler........the F***KING EXPLOIT MOFOs. 8-Time New Eden Mass Driver Champion Min Commando Combat Rifle and Mass Driver = FUN and Tears OMG the Tears!! :)
Spectral Clone Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3126	Posted - 2014.11.16 20:00:00 - [19] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I made this video 11 months ago to show this: http://youtu.be/hrVDPmIhkx8 The ASCR has always been UP simply because it has that weird recoil mechanic where it bounces the reticle around everywhere just slightly enough that you end up losing out on a lot of DPS because of it. Why do weapons like the breach AR not have this mechanic to prevent them being used as sniping weapons? The RR has a similar recoil, alongside barrel climb. The ASCR fortunately doesn't have barrel climb but it does kick all over the place for such a low zoom weapon that's supposed to be used at range. I remember back when my Carthum was my baby. Holy **** that thing destroyed Caldari Logistics like they were mlt frames. Now there are so many armor frames and prof 5 doesn't give you 15% armor damage, so it just doesn't work very well anymore. 3 complex dmg mods give you +18% dmg to armor though. EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 454	Posted - 2014.11.16 20:05:00 - [20] - Quote I haven't had much trouble hitting with the AScR. Aiming with it is a bit tricky, but it isn't difficult once you adjust to the odd "recoil". I often get kills at >50m with the ADV AScR on a Quafe Amarr Assault, it just takes some adjustment. Whether or not it's underpowered? I can't really say. It's definitely behind the ScR in terms of effectiveness, so I guess it could use some adjustments. Overall, it's still a solid weapon, just not quite as versatile as the BrAR and CR, or as powerful as the RR and ScR.

Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4946	Posted - 2014.11.16 20:13:00 - [21] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The ASCR is a great Assault weapon if you just look at the stats. Get your head around the fact that the recoil is visual (It has zero to very little actual recoil from my tests), and you will be destroying things. Largest clip, most damage per clip, fastest reload time, second longest range, probably the best sight for an Assault weapon (Red dot) and decent DPS.* *In comparison to other Assault variants Worst weapon choice possible against most targets because large amounts of armor make up the majority of dropsuit loadouts in the game, and it gets an incredible penalty to armor. Add to the fact that armor HP is higher than shield HP in general, and it is a very ineffective weapon for killing anything other than scouts. Nope. Triple Light dmg mods care to disagree. .... that isn't a valid point. Triple damage mods can be applied to any weapon, many of which take advantage of it better.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5961	Posted - 2014.11.16 20:13:00 - [22] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I made this video 11 months ago to show this: http://youtu.be/hrVDPmIhkx8 The ASCR has always been UP simply because it has that weird recoil mechanic where it bounces the reticle around everywhere just slightly enough that you end up losing out on a lot of DPS because of it. Why do weapons like the breach AR not have this mechanic to prevent them being used as sniping weapons? The RR has a similar recoil, alongside barrel climb. The ASCR fortunately doesn't have barrel climb but it does kick all over the place for such a low zoom weapon that's supposed to be used at range. I remember back when my Carthum was my baby. Holy **** that thing destroyed Caldari Logistics like they were mlt frames. Now there are so many armor frames and prof 5 doesn't give you 15% armor damage, so it just doesn't work very well anymore. But the recoil is all visual. Just don't try t compensate and you'll do fine. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 13252	Posted - 2014.11.16 21:36:00 - [23] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The ASCR is a great Assault weapon if you just look at the stats. Get your head around the fact that the recoil is visual (It has zero to very little actual recoil from my tests), and you will be destroying things. Largest clip, most damage per clip, fastest reload time, second longest range, probably the best sight for an Assault weapon (Red dot) and decent DPS.* *In comparison to other Assault variants Worst weapon choice possible against most targets because large amounts of armor make up the majority of dropsuit loadouts in the game, and it gets an incredible penalty to armor. Add to the fact that armor HP is higher than shield HP in general, and it is a very ineffective weapon for killing anything other than scouts. I find it better for chewing the armor on heavies than on my Plasma Rifle simply because of the higher damage per clip. Could be I was lucky with the heavies I encountered because I don't run the ASCR much, but from my testing it's a very solid Assault weapon. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14685	Posted - 2014.11.16 21:38:00 - [24] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The ASCR is a great Assault weapon if you just look at the stats. Get your head around the fact that the recoil is visual (It has zero to very little actual recoil from my tests), and you will be destroying things. Largest clip, most damage per clip, fastest reload time, second longest range, probably the best sight for an Assault weapon (Red dot) and decent DPS.* In comparison to other Assault variants Worst weapon choice possible against most targets because large amounts of armor make up the majority of dropsuit loadouts in the game, and it gets an incredible penalty to armor. Add to the fact that armor HP is higher than shield HP in general, and it is a very ineffective weapon for killing anything other than scouts. I find it better for chewing the armor on heavies than on my Plasma Rifle simply because of the higher damage per clip. Could be I was lucky with the heavies I encountered because I don't run the ASCR much, but from my testing it's a very solid Assault weapon. Honestly I don't know how you do it. I can barely chew through even light armour at 50m. Occasionally the gun feels incredibly good other times utterly worthless and I can't place why. "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this."* -Kador Ouryon
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1914	Posted - 2014.11.16 21:55:00 - [25] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: https://airdropgaming.com/hipshotdot OP OP and will get you banned on XBL just like modded controllers do aswell as lag switchers.. iv no idea what PSN's policy is tho [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5962	Posted - 2014.11.16 23:17:00 - [26] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The ASCR is a great Assault weapon if you just look at the stats. Get your head around the fact that the recoil is visual (It has zero to very little actual recoil from my tests), and you will be destroying things. Largest clip, most damage per clip, fastest reload time, second longest range, probably the best sight for an Assault weapon (Red dot) and decent DPS.* *In comparison to other Assault variants Worst weapon choice possible against most targets because large amounts of armor make up the majority of dropsuit loadouts in the game, and it gets an incredible penalty to armor. Add to the fact that armor HP is higher than shield HP in general, and it is a very ineffective weapon for killing anything other than scouts. I find it better for chewing the armor on heavies than on my Plasma Rifle simply because of the higher damage per clip. Could be I was lucky with the heavies I encountered because I don't run the ASCR much, but from my testing it's a very solid Assault weapon. The ASCR is definitely better than the AR. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
hfderrtgvcd 1179	Posted - 2014.11.16 23:29:00 - [27] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The ASCR is a great Assault weapon if you just look at the stats. Get your head around the fact that the recoil is visual (It has zero to very little actual recoil from my tests), and you will be destroying things. Largest clip, most damage per clip, fastest reload time, second longest range, probably the best sight for an Assault weapon (Red dot) and decent DPS.* *In comparison to other Assault variants Worst weapon choice possible against most targets because large amounts of armor make up the majority of dropsuit loadouts in the game, and it gets an incredible penalty to armor. Add to the fact that armor HP is higher than shield HP in general, and it is a very ineffective weapon for killing anything other than scouts. I find it better for chewing the armor on heavies than on my Plasma Rifle simply because of the higher damage per clip. Could be I was lucky with the heavies I encountered because I don't run the ASCR much, but from my testing it's a very solid Assault weapon. The ASCR is definitely better than the AR. sometimes I wonder if you guys are playing the same game as me You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
zzZaXxx Vengeance Unbound 662	Posted - 2014.11.16 23:42:00 - [28] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The ASCR is a great Assault weapon if you just look at the stats. Get your head around the fact that the recoil is visual (It has zero to very little actual recoil from my tests), and you will be destroying things. Largest clip, most damage per clip, fastest reload time, second longest range, probably the best sight for an Assault weapon (Red dot) and decent DPS.* *In comparison to other Assault variants Worst weapon choice possible against most targets because large amounts of armor make up the majority of dropsuit loadouts in the game, and it gets an incredible penalty to armor. Add to the fact that armor HP is higher than shield HP in general, and it is a very ineffective weapon for killing anything other than scouts. You have to take advantage of its accuracy at range and super large clip. It will destroy anything Caldari or Minmatar, close or far. At longer range it doesn't matter if it's an Amarr Sentinal, the AScR will take it down eventually. Closer up yeah you need to run away from heavies. If laser dmg profile was changed to +15%/-15%, mirroring projectile, it would be more versatile.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4954	Posted - 2014.11.17 11:27:00 - [29] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The ASCR is a great Assault weapon if you just look at the stats. Get your head around the fact that the recoil is visual (It has zero to very little actual recoil from my tests), and you will be destroying things. Largest clip, most damage per clip, fastest reload time, second longest range, probably the best sight for an Assault weapon (Red dot) and decent DPS.* *In comparison to other Assault variants Worst weapon choice possible against most targets because large amounts of armor make up the majority of dropsuit loadouts in the game, and it gets an incredible penalty to armor. Add to the fact that armor HP is higher than shield HP in general, and it is a very ineffective weapon for killing anything other than scouts. I find it better for chewing the armor on heavies than on my Plasma Rifle simply because of the higher damage per clip. Could be I was lucky with the heavies I encountered because I don't run the ASCR much, but from my testing it's a very solid Assault weapon. A clip from either weapon will kill a heavy. They can't do much to evade your shots. The only question that is relevant is which clip is going to kill them faster, and the ASCR will not. That fact right there should be the end of your desire to use it. It's my fault FA exists. Direct your rage to me.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5968	Posted - 2014.11.17 14:24:00 - [30] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The ASCR is a great Assault weapon if you just look at the stats. Get your head around the fact that the recoil is visual (It has zero to very little actual recoil from my tests), and you will be destroying things. Largest clip, most damage per clip, fastest reload time, second longest range, probably the best sight for an Assault weapon (Red dot) and decent DPS.* *In comparison to other Assault variants Worst weapon choice possible against most targets because large amounts of armor make up the majority of dropsuit loadouts in the game, and it gets an incredible penalty to armor. Add to the fact that armor HP is higher than shield HP in general, and it is a very ineffective weapon for killing anything other than scouts. I find it better for chewing the armor on heavies than on my Plasma Rifle simply because of the higher damage per clip. Could be I was lucky with the heavies I encountered because I don't run the ASCR much, but from my testing it's a very solid Assault weapon. A clip from either weapon will kill a heavy. They can't do much to evade your shots. The only question that is relevant is which clip is going to kill them faster, and the ASCR will not. That fact right there should be the end of your desire to use it. But then considering you already admit you don't run it often, you probably have already subconsciously admitted its a bad weapon and do not use it as a result. You simply haven't admitted it to yourself openly yet. But the ASCR is better at delivering headshots because of tighter dispersion and higher ADS precision. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.

Spectral Clone Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3135	Posted - 2014.11.17 14:41:00 - [31] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: https://airdropgaming.com/hipshotdot OP OP and will get you banned on XBL just like modded controllers do aswell as lag switchers.. iv no idea what PSN's policy is tho How are they going to ban you for putting a dot on your screen? Please explain. EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4563	Posted - 2014.11.17 17:04:00 - [32] - Quote Was actually a underrated and very effective weapon prior to 1.7 when it got outclassed majorly by the CR and RR. Though, until it got needlessly (and massively) nerfed along with the regular ScR in delta it was honestly still pretty decent. Not great or remotely OP, to be sure, but a nice middle ground between the AR And RR in both function and overall effectiveness. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Ryme Intrinseca Dead Man's Game RUST415 2016	Posted - 2014.11.17 18:26:00 - [33] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: https://airdropgaming.com/hipshotdot OP OP and will get you banned on XBL just like modded controllers do aswell as lag switchers.. iv no idea what PSN's policy is tho How are they going to ban you for putting a dot on your screen? Please explain. From 1.9 patch notes: CCP Frame wrote: Other * Added Skill Reset and Refund option to marketplace for player convenience, purchasable for Aurum. Skillbooks are refunded at 80% of ISK Market Price. * Introducing a new Loyalty Ranks program, where Players will gain a Loyalty Rank based on Lifetime Battles, Wins, War Points and Aurum purchased and used, and more. * Video cameras now installed in all players' houses to check for any exploits. We broke in while you were at the shops.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5978	Posted - 2014.11.18 04:21:00 - [34] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Was actually a underrated and very effective weapon prior to 1.7 when it got outclassed majorly by the CR and RR. Though, until it got needlessly (and massively) nerfed along with the regular ScR in delta it was honestly still pretty decent. Not great or remotely OP, to be sure, but a nice middle ground between the AR And RR in both function and overall effectiveness. ASCR > AR Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.


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