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Maitue Mae
Involuntary Manslaughter
106
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Posted - 2014.11.15 04:08:00 -
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The RR sucks right now. I can't get a single kill with the base one unless my targets are far from me and from cover. The ARR is kinda working, but I feel like I keep loosing engagements of which I have set up to be in my advantage (Shadowing them from behind, unload into their head in ADS). What should I do?
Ishukone gave me my papers to transfer into the State
Hail To The Caldari State
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4569
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Posted - 2014.11.15 04:11:00 -
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You're supposed to kill them from far away? That's the purpose of the Rail Rifle.
The Assault version trades that off for a closer focus.
Use a Magsec with your Rail Rifle. It's great up close now that the kick is manageable AND it's Caldari if you want to stay pure. |
Maitue Mae
Involuntary Manslaughter
106
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Posted - 2014.11.15 04:13:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:You're supposed to kill them from far away? That's the purpose of the Rail Rifle.
The Assault version trades that off for a closer focus.
Use a Magsec with your Rail Rifle. It's great up close now that the kick is manageable AND it's Caldari if you want to stay pure.
For some reason the Magsec sucks for me. I have it prof 3, but I just think I don't know how to use it.
Ishukone gave me my papers to transfer into the State
Hail To The Caldari State
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
109
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Posted - 2014.11.15 04:16:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:Joel II X wrote:You're supposed to kill them from far away? That's the purpose of the Rail Rifle.
The Assault version trades that off for a closer focus.
Use a Magsec with your Rail Rifle. It's great up close now that the kick is manageable AND it's Caldari if you want to stay pure. For some reason the Magsec sucks for me. I have it prof 3, but I just think I don't know how to use it. I have it on prof 4. Every other sidearm I use is more useful most of the time. |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4569
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Posted - 2014.11.15 04:17:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:Joel II X wrote:You're supposed to kill them from far away? That's the purpose of the Rail Rifle.
The Assault version trades that off for a closer focus.
Use a Magsec with your Rail Rifle. It's great up close now that the kick is manageable AND it's Caldari if you want to stay pure. For some reason the Magsec sucks for me. I have it prof 3, but I just think I don't know how to use it. Unless CCP changed it from the last time I've used it, you'll be fine. It's easy to get a hang of it. I have it at Operation 3 and the kick is very easy to handle. |
Maitue Mae
Involuntary Manslaughter
106
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Posted - 2014.11.15 04:18:00 -
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Maitue Mae wrote:Joel II X wrote:You're supposed to kill them from far away? That's the purpose of the Rail Rifle.
The Assault version trades that off for a closer focus.
Use a Magsec with your Rail Rifle. It's great up close now that the kick is manageable AND it's Caldari if you want to stay pure. For some reason the Magsec sucks for me. I have it prof 3, but I just think I don't know how to use it. I have it on prof 4. Every other sidearm I use is more useful most of the time.
Well ****
Ishukone gave me my papers to transfer into the State
Hail To The Caldari State
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
1190
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Posted - 2014.11.15 04:20:00 -
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pure? in that case your allowed to use any hybrid weapon.
in eve caldari and gallente share hybrids and get bonuses to all hybrids. so caldari ship bonuses apply to blasters and rails and gallente ship bonuses apply to rails and blasters. they do not differentiate between the 2. theres no such thing as a hybrid:rail or hybrid:blaster bonus.
its just "hybrids" so if your pure caldari just use any hybrid your comfortable with. from a shotgun or ar, to a sniper rifle or railrifle. its all the same category lore wise.
its an idiosyncrasy in dust due to them trying to distribute the weapons evenly when they arent supposed to be distribted evenly because hybrids are the most widely used weapon lore wise as both caldari and gal can use any hybrids they want with no penalty.
so go ahead and use an assault rifle if you want youre still playing pure caldari. eve trumps dusts as the source material and if anyone criticizes you for it they dont know what theyre talking about and feel free to redirect them to this thread and this post.
its something thats bothered me since i started playing dust because its completely wrong and its never explained properly in dust. its not the first time ive gone on rants about this and it wont be my last until shanghai fixes it.
Don't vote for iron wolf saber.
Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
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hfderrtgvcd
1170
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Posted - 2014.11.15 04:20:00 -
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use a breach ar
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1337
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Posted - 2014.11.15 04:20:00 -
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This is how I fit one. |
VikingKong iBUN
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
198
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Posted - 2014.11.15 04:20:00 -
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you should start a forum campaign for rail rifle to be un-nerf'd |
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Maitue Mae
Involuntary Manslaughter
107
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Posted - 2014.11.15 04:25:00 -
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VikingKong iBUN wrote:you should start a forum campaign for rail rifle to be un-nerf'd
How would one do this? I have been lurking for a while here, and it seems that there is now a policy of no qq'ing if their is no Data. I do not have a capture card, and so the only thing I would be able to do to record is google docs numbers (of which I doubt the forum warriors will trust me with), or taking ****** images with my damn phone. Who the hell takes pictures of their tv?
Ishukone gave me my papers to transfer into the State
Hail To The Caldari State
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
1190
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Posted - 2014.11.15 04:26:00 -
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VikingKong iBUN wrote:you should start a forum campaign for rail rifle to be un-nerf'd
ill support that any day.
Don't vote for iron wolf saber.
Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
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VikingKong iBUN
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
198
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Posted - 2014.11.15 04:27:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:VikingKong iBUN wrote:you should start a forum campaign for rail rifle to be un-nerf'd How would one do this? I have been lurking for a while here, and it seems that there is now a policy of no qq'ing if their is no Data. I do not have a capture card, and so the only thing I would be able to do to record is google docs numbers (of which I doubt the forum warriors will trust me with), or taking ****** images with my damn phone. Who the hell takes pictures of their tv? just use alts to create new threads every days saying "rail rifle is ****" |
Lloyd Orfay
SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
207
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Posted - 2014.11.15 04:30:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:The RR sucks right now. I can't get a single kill with the base one unless my targets are far from me and from cover. The ARR is kinda working, but I feel like I keep loosing engagements of which I have set up to be in my advantage (Shadowing them from behind, unload into their head in ADS). What should I do?
No advice for you.
If you can waste your time complaining about a long ranged weapon not being useable in short ranges, you can alse use that time to make a fit.
There is literally no sense for team killing to be possible in any gamemode.
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Maitue Mae
Involuntary Manslaughter
107
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Posted - 2014.11.15 04:44:00 -
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Lloyd Orfay wrote:Maitue Mae wrote:The RR sucks right now. I can't get a single kill with the base one unless my targets are far from me and from cover. The ARR is kinda working, but I feel like I keep loosing engagements of which I have set up to be in my advantage (Shadowing them from behind, unload into their head in ADS). What should I do? No advice for you. If you can waste your time complaining about a long ranged weapon not being useable in short ranges, you can alse use that time to make a fit.
I have been making fit after fit for the last two days. Either I just suck, or Caldari stuff is bad for the perceived playstyle I was told to use (Use cover, fight at ranged, rush in only when enemy is weak in numbers). I think I have lost 20Mil in just trying to experiment and then saying **** it.
Ishukone gave me my papers to transfer into the State
Hail To The Caldari State
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
259
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Posted - 2014.11.15 05:24:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:Lloyd Orfay wrote:Maitue Mae wrote:The RR sucks right now. I can't get a single kill with the base one unless my targets are far from me and from cover. The ARR is kinda working, but I feel like I keep loosing engagements of which I have set up to be in my advantage (Shadowing them from behind, unload into their head in ADS). What should I do? No advice for you. If you can waste your time complaining about a long ranged weapon not being useable in short ranges, you can alse use that time to make a fit. I have been making fit after fit for the last two days. Either I just suck, or Caldari stuff is bad for the perceived playstyle I was told to use (Use cover, fight at ranged, rush in only when enemy is weak in numbers). I think I have lost 20Mil in just trying to experiment and then saying **** it. The CCPs nerfed my baby! This was a real nerf too! Now I am killed by a militia AR at 60m before I even get to fire my Kaal! Anyway, For The State! and I would say magsec/bolt pistol. Or do what I do and use everything except gallente (They have all the FotMs!) Anyway, good luck! May the winds guide you!
Pal'Ahm kim kama'Ahm
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
8457
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Posted - 2014.11.15 06:02:00 -
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Well if I were a Caldari like I was in the very early, early days of DUST. This is what I would have fitted had I went on my Roleplaying Kick-ass assault Path.
This is what I'd use if I was Caldari (Lore Appropriate): http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/831/7747
And this is what I use in real life as a True Gallente (of course it's lore appropriate!): http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/164/7714
My Caldari Counterpart has 115 more health than my Gallente suit repairs shield at 10 more hp/s second than my Gallente Recharge delay is 8 seconds faster and depletion delay is 7 seconds faster My Caldari counterpart has 21.75 less armor repair per second to my Gallente. Every other stat is the exact same
The Gallente is more Short ranged, ambush oriented. The Gallente is more long, mid range oriented with stand and deliver tactics.
Both grenades are meant for AV but the flux gets the bonus of hitting infantry but the AV gets the bonus of actually doing damage to vehicle armor.
I'd love to see these two fits against each other but sadly no one knows how to properly fit a Caldari suit without armor stacking it.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
4189
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Posted - 2014.11.15 06:18:00 -
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I'm no pure Caldari, but my CalLogi is fit like so. If I want to use the Kaal, I change the shield extenders around a little (thanks to it being justifiable to not use complex always nowadays).
I imagine if I had a CalAssault it'd go more like this.
CCP Rattati ily!
AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 GÇó CalLogi 5
now what?
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
4530
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Posted - 2014.11.15 06:27:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:VikingKong iBUN wrote:you should start a forum campaign for rail rifle to be un-nerf'd How would one do this? I have been lurking for a while here, and it seems that there is now a policy of no qq'ing if their is no Data. I do not have a capture card, and so the only thing I would be able to do to record is google docs numbers (of which I doubt the forum warriors will trust me with), or taking ****** images with my damn phone. Who the hell takes pictures of their tv?
Man, you see what I did? I logged in...witnessed the POS state the RR got nerfed into...and immediately started gathering feedback.
The more threads we start...the better off we'll be...the new RR changes were in response to some QQ about the hipfire kick nerfs.
QQ MOAR until the previous nerfs are implemented back in...or you come up and get support for a new nerf that satisfies Ratatti.
(maybe CQC dispersion instead of kick?)
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1881
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Posted - 2014.11.15 06:28:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:The RR sucks right now. I can't get a single kill with the base one unless my targets are far from me and from cover. The ARR is kinda working, but I feel like I keep loosing engagements of which I have set up to be in my advantage (Shadowing them from behind, unload into their head in ADS). What should I do? its sad but do what i did and put a combat rifle or BAR on there and it works nice.
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1882
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Posted - 2014.11.15 06:34:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:Lloyd Orfay wrote:Maitue Mae wrote:The RR sucks right now. I can't get a single kill with the base one unless my targets are far from me and from cover. The ARR is kinda working, but I feel like I keep loosing engagements of which I have set up to be in my advantage (Shadowing them from behind, unload into their head in ADS). What should I do? No advice for you. If you can waste your time complaining about a long ranged weapon not being useable in short ranges, you can alse use that time to make a fit. I have been making fit after fit for the last two days. Either I just suck, or Caldari stuff is bad for the perceived playstyle I was told to use (Use cover, fight at ranged, rush in only when enemy is weak in numbers). I think I have lost 20Mil in just trying to experiment and then saying **** it. don't listen to the shaking babys guy they are the worst players out there. you are doing nothing wrong its just the rail rifle sucks. caldri assault was my first proto suit and i have used it a ton. there are times with every patch that one gun is just bad. no matter if your suit gets a bonus to the gun if its bad you need to switch to a different weapon.
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
1192
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Posted - 2014.11.15 07:06:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Maitue Mae wrote:VikingKong iBUN wrote:you should start a forum campaign for rail rifle to be un-nerf'd How would one do this? I have been lurking for a while here, and it seems that there is now a policy of no qq'ing if their is no Data. I do not have a capture card, and so the only thing I would be able to do to record is google docs numbers (of which I doubt the forum warriors will trust me with), or taking ****** images with my damn phone. Who the hell takes pictures of their tv? Man, you see what I did? I logged in...witnessed the POS state the RR got nerfed into...and immediately started gathering feedback. The more threads we start...the better off we'll be...the new RR changes were in response to some QQ about the hipfire kick nerfs. QQ MOAR until the previous nerfs are implemented back in...or you come up and get support for a new nerf that satisfies Ratatti. (maybe CQC dispersion instead of kick?)
what were the pre nerf stats and current stats? idk whats been nerfed and whats what anymore. last time i used a rr it was still 1.7 around march.
Don't vote for iron wolf saber.
Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
100
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Posted - 2014.11.15 07:08:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:The RR sucks right now. I can't get a single kill with the base one unless my targets are far from me and from cover. The ARR is kinda working, but I feel like I keep loosing engagements of which I have set up to be in my advantage (Shadowing them from behind, unload into their head in ADS). What should I do? ARR still kinda sucks, use an ACR or CR, with a boundless breach smg or a basic breach with a nano.
Choo Choo
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
1192
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Posted - 2014.11.15 07:09:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Well if I were a Caldari like I was in the very early, early days of DUST. This is what I would have fitted had I went on my Roleplaying Kick-ass assault Path. This is what I'd use if I was Caldari (Lore Appropriate): http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/831/7747And this is what I use in real life as a True Gallente (of course it's lore appropriate!): http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/164/7714My Caldari Counterpart has 115 more health than my Gallente suit repairs shield at 10 more hp/s second than my Gallente Recharge delay is 8 seconds faster and depletion delay is 7 seconds faster My Caldari counterpart has 21.75 less armor repair per second to my Gallente. Every other stat is the exact sameThe Gallente is more Short ranged, ambush oriented. The Gallente is more long, mid range oriented with stand and deliver tactics. Both grenades are meant for AV but the flux gets the bonus of hitting infantry but the AV gets the bonus of actually doing damage to vehicle armor. I'd love to see these two fits against each other but sadly no one knows how to properly fit a Caldari suit without armor stacking it.
kirk get that pg upgrade out of here. whats the matter with you. do a proto recharger or advanced energizer and fit that 3 regulator. you dont need a fancy sideam, grenade or equipment slot. you kill with your light weapon, reload it. kill more.
Don't vote for iron wolf saber.
Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
100
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Posted - 2014.11.15 07:19:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Well if I were a Caldari like I was in the very early, early days of DUST. This is what I would have fitted had I went on my Roleplaying Kick-ass assault Path. This is what I'd use if I was Caldari (Lore Appropriate): http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/831/7747And this is what I use in real life as a True Gallente (of course it's lore appropriate!): http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/164/7714My Caldari Counterpart has 115 more health than my Gallente suit repairs shield at 10 more hp/s second than my Gallente Recharge delay is 8 seconds faster and depletion delay is 7 seconds faster My Caldari counterpart has 21.75 less armor repair per second to my Gallente. Every other stat is the exact sameThe Gallente is more Short ranged, ambush oriented. The Gallente is more long, mid range oriented with stand and deliver tactics. Both grenades are meant for AV but the flux gets the bonus of hitting infantry but the AV gets the bonus of actually doing damage to vehicle armor. I'd love to see these two fits against each other but sadly no one knows how to properly fit a Caldari suit without armor stacking it. kirk get that pg upgrade out of here. whats the matter with you. do a proto recharger or advanced energizer and fit that 3 regulator. you dont need a fancy sideam, grenade or equipment slot. you kill with your light weapon, reload it. kill more. 3 complex regs 3 complex extenders 2 complex energizers primary nanohive Standard breach smg.
There.
Choo Choo
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
1193
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Posted - 2014.11.15 07:22:00 -
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duster 35000 wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Well if I were a Caldari like I was in the very early, early days of DUST. This is what I would have fitted had I went on my Roleplaying Kick-ass assault Path. This is what I'd use if I was Caldari (Lore Appropriate): http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/831/7747And this is what I use in real life as a True Gallente (of course it's lore appropriate!): http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/164/7714My Caldari Counterpart has 115 more health than my Gallente suit repairs shield at 10 more hp/s second than my Gallente Recharge delay is 8 seconds faster and depletion delay is 7 seconds faster My Caldari counterpart has 21.75 less armor repair per second to my Gallente. Every other stat is the exact sameThe Gallente is more Short ranged, ambush oriented. The Gallente is more long, mid range oriented with stand and deliver tactics. Both grenades are meant for AV but the flux gets the bonus of hitting infantry but the AV gets the bonus of actually doing damage to vehicle armor. I'd love to see these two fits against each other but sadly no one knows how to properly fit a Caldari suit without armor stacking it. kirk get that pg upgrade out of here. whats the matter with you. do a proto recharger or advanced energizer and fit that 3 regulator. you dont need a fancy sideam, grenade or equipment slot. you kill with your light weapon, reload it. kill more. 3 complex regs 3 complex extenders 2 complex energizers primary nanohive Standard breach smg. There.
eh id just do one. i dont want to lose too much hp by doing 2 energizers. the advanced is fine or the proto recharger. 14%shld is pretty steep imo.
Don't vote for iron wolf saber.
Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
8457
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Posted - 2014.11.15 07:30:00 -
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duster 35000 wrote:Maitue Mae wrote:The RR sucks right now. I can't get a single kill with the base one unless my targets are far from me and from cover. The ARR is kinda working, but I feel like I keep loosing engagements of which I have set up to be in my advantage (Shadowing them from behind, unload into their head in ADS). What should I do? ARR still kinda sucks, use an ACR or CR, with a boundless breach smg or a basic breach with a nano. went 11-0 in militia gear besides the BPO dragonfly Assault Pure caldari fit. My team was ****, and they got raped it was sad but I managed to come out on top. Why?
(Well yeah I'm a above average player) but I also stayed away from using my Rail rifle in engagements less than 40 meters and switched to my militia magsec at 40 and below.
and man, the Magsec is actually decent (not like the submachine gun but it's more like a compact assault rifle) even at militia, or maybe that's just my experience making something bad into something usable.
So to do well I kept my range. changed weapons when I needed to and ran away from engagements that were not in my favor. Literally what I do with my Gallente Assault but the exact opposite and I don't have the luxury of having a sidearm that works outside of my main rifles ideal range.
My fit for the match: Dragonfly C-1 Assault
Highs: 2 - milita shield extender blueprint 1 - basic shield extender
Low: Militia Regulator Blueprint
Weapons: Militia Rail Rifle Militia Magsec Milita AV grenade (just because it's the only Caldari grenade)
With all that being said, I could do well with the Rail Rifle. But I also did well with the **** terrible assault rifles back in the day so this is very likely massively skewed data. At the most take away some kick but not a lot but people in general need to learn to fight to their suits and weapons ideal styles and stop wanting to perform well at everything. Go Minmatar if you want to have your hand in everything while not being the complete best.
From doing Orbitals I like to look at these Caldari's fits for a good laugh because they usually have 2 shield extenders with the rest being damage mods and armor stack all the way. Which is completely lolz worthy. A lot of people don't know how to properly fit shield suits as well as they don't have the playstyle to be a Caldari, both of which are extreme problems.
I doubt these APEX suits do anything but at least it will remind some people that shield regulators do actually exist in this game.
P.S. any before any forum scrub tells me I'm being biased against the Rail Rifle & Caldari please journey back a long time ago where I constantly bitched at CCP to nerf the Tactical, Breach and to fix the insta-kill flux grenade during their time of OPness. I don't even like the Gallente brick tanked scout currently.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
8457
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Posted - 2014.11.15 07:32:00 -
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double post
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
8457
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Posted - 2014.11.15 07:33:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Well if I were a Caldari like I was in the very early, early days of DUST. This is what I would have fitted had I went on my Roleplaying Kick-ass assault Path. This is what I'd use if I was Caldari (Lore Appropriate): http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/831/7747And this is what I use in real life as a True Gallente (of course it's lore appropriate!): http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/164/7714My Caldari Counterpart has 115 more health than my Gallente suit repairs shield at 10 more hp/s second than my Gallente Recharge delay is 8 seconds faster and depletion delay is 7 seconds faster My Caldari counterpart has 21.75 less armor repair per second to my Gallente. Every other stat is the exact sameThe Gallente is more Short ranged, ambush oriented. The Gallente is more long, mid range oriented with stand and deliver tactics. Both grenades are meant for AV but the flux gets the bonus of hitting infantry but the AV gets the bonus of actually doing damage to vehicle armor. I'd love to see these two fits against each other but sadly no one knows how to properly fit a Caldari suit without armor stacking it. kirk get that pg upgrade out of here. whats the matter with you. do a proto recharger or advanced energizer and fit that 3 regulator. you dont need a fancy sideam, grenade or equipment slot. you kill with your light weapon, reload it. kill more.
But but Proto Magsec is so damn tasty :( I could probably do without the AV grenade though, but it's supposed to be the Caldari Version of how I fit my Gallente.
At least this is what my Caldari alt woud have if he had enough skill points but damn the magsec is so damn fine.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION
473
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Posted - 2014.11.15 11:40:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Well if I were a Caldari like I was in the very early, early days of DUST. This is what I would have fitted had I went on my Roleplaying Kick-ass assault Path. This is what I'd use if I was Caldari (Lore Appropriate): http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/831/7747And this is what I use in real life as a True Gallente (of course it's lore appropriate!): http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/164/7714My Caldari Counterpart has 115 more health than my Gallente suit repairs shield at 10 more hp/s second than my Gallente Recharge delay is 8 seconds faster and depletion delay is 7 seconds faster My Caldari counterpart has 21.75 less armor repair per second to my Gallente. Every other stat is the exact sameThe Gallente is more Short ranged, ambush oriented. The Gallente is more long, mid range oriented with stand and deliver tactics. Both grenades are meant for AV but the flux gets the bonus of hitting infantry but the AV gets the bonus of actually doing damage to vehicle armor. I'd love to see these two fits against each other but sadly no one knows how to properly fit a Caldari suit without armor stacking it.
I once played you in my Ck.0 suit (a proper shield build) and you really gave me a good fight think, I lost 3 of the 5 encounters.
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Maitue Mae
Involuntary Manslaughter
108
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Posted - 2014.11.15 16:50:00 -
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My Proto suit is this: Complex Shield Recharger 4 Complex Shield Extenders 2 Complex Shield Regulators 1 Basic Cardiac Regulator Ishukone Rail Rifle Kaalakiota Magsec Wirykomi Nanite Injector
I can kinda keep myself in the positive KdR in this, but this is a Proto Suit costing a lot.
Ishukone gave me my papers to transfer into the State
Hail To The Caldari State
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Ablerober
Pretty Violence
196
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Posted - 2014.11.15 17:00:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:Lloyd Orfay wrote:Maitue Mae wrote:The RR sucks right now. I can't get a single kill with the base one unless my targets are far from me and from cover. The ARR is kinda working, but I feel like I keep loosing engagements of which I have set up to be in my advantage (Shadowing them from behind, unload into their head in ADS). What should I do? No advice for you. If you can waste your time complaining about a long ranged weapon not being useable in short ranges, you can alse use that time to make a fit. I have been making fit after fit for the last two days. Either I just suck, or Caldari stuff is bad for the perceived playstyle I was told to use (Use cover, fight at ranged, rush in only when enemy is weak in numbers). I think I have lost 20Mil in just trying to experiment and then saying **** it.
Don't give up.
My varitions of the Caldari assault are heavy on shields and I only use an assault rifle these days. My proto fits use a Duvolle or Allotek, my standard use a Breach or Militia which are surprisingly effective if you have them maxed out.
I rarely use the RR now, it's no fun anymore. Kills are few and far between.
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Mike Ox Bigger
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Posted - 2014.11.15 18:18:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:Joel II X wrote:You're supposed to kill them from far away? That's the purpose of the Rail Rifle.
The Assault version trades that off for a closer focus.
Use a Magsec with your Rail Rifle. It's great up close now that the kick is manageable AND it's Caldari if you want to stay pure. For some reason the Magsec sucks for me. I have it prof 3, but I just think I don't know how to use it.
It doesn't just suck for you it sucks in general. It's useful between 30-50m and hipfiring it is useless. It complements a Sniper, Forge Gunner, Swarm Launcher as they can use it almost as a rifle but it sucks in CQC and the hipfire is horrible. All other side arms are a better bet in CQC. |
Killer's Coys
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2014.11.15 18:22:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:The RR sucks right now. I can't get a single kill with the base one unless my targets are far from me and from cover. The ARR is kinda working, but I feel like I keep loosing engagements of which I have set up to be in my advantage (Shadowing them from behind, unload into their head in ADS). What should I do?
Wanna be real Caldari ? And have an amazing suit ?
- 2 complex shield extender - 1 enhanced shield extender - 2 complex shield energizer
- 1 enhanced cardiac regulator - 2 complex shield regulator
- Ishukone assault RR - M512 SMG - C-7 Flux grenade - Ishukone gaughed nanohive
Done.
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Maitue Mae
Involuntary Manslaughter
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Posted - 2014.11.15 21:47:00 -
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Ablerober wrote:Maitue Mae wrote:Lloyd Orfay wrote:Maitue Mae wrote:The RR sucks right now. I can't get a single kill with the base one unless my targets are far from me and from cover. The ARR is kinda working, but I feel like I keep loosing engagements of which I have set up to be in my advantage (Shadowing them from behind, unload into their head in ADS). What should I do? No advice for you. If you can waste your time complaining about a long ranged weapon not being useable in short ranges, you can alse use that time to make a fit. I have been making fit after fit for the last two days. Either I just suck, or Caldari stuff is bad for the perceived playstyle I was told to use (Use cover, fight at ranged, rush in only when enemy is weak in numbers). I think I have lost 20Mil in just trying to experiment and then saying **** it. Don't give up. My varitions of the Caldari assault are heavy on shields and I only use an assault rifle these days. My proto fits use a Duvolle or Allotek, my standard use a Breach or Militia which are surprisingly effective if you have them maxed out. I rarely use the RR now, it's no fun anymore. Kills are few and far between. Can give you my loadouts if you want.
Would be nice, please tell.
Ishukone gave me my papers to transfer into the State
Hail To The Caldari State
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Maitue Mae
Involuntary Manslaughter
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Posted - 2014.11.15 21:48:00 -
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Killer's Coys wrote:Maitue Mae wrote:The RR sucks right now. I can't get a single kill with the base one unless my targets are far from me and from cover. The ARR is kinda working, but I feel like I keep loosing engagements of which I have set up to be in my advantage (Shadowing them from behind, unload into their head in ADS). What should I do? Wanna be real Caldari ? And have an amazing suit ? - 2 complex shield extender - 1 enhanced shield extender - 2 complex shield energizer - 1 enhanced cardiac regulator - 2 complex shield regulator - Ishukone assault RR - M512 SMG - C-7 Flux grenade - Ishukone gaughed nanohive Done.
Will look into it, thanks.
Ishukone gave me my papers to transfer into the State
Hail To The Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.15 21:49:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:Joel II X wrote:You're supposed to kill them from far away? That's the purpose of the Rail Rifle.
The Assault version trades that off for a closer focus.
Use a Magsec with your Rail Rifle. It's great up close now that the kick is manageable AND it's Caldari if you want to stay pure. For some reason the Magsec sucks for me. I have it prof 3, but I just think I don't know how to use it. i agree the turn speed and handleing feels weird compaired to smg yet it sucks for hipfire but is decent for ADS fire
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
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Posted - 2014.11.15 23:01:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:The RR sucks right now. I can't get a single kill with the base one unless my targets are far from me and from cover. The ARR is kinda working, but I feel like I keep loosing engagements of which I have set up to be in my advantage (Shadowing them from behind, unload into their head in ADS). What should I do?
You know boyo, RR was fine. It was great balanced weapon, but some people wanted it OP again (like before cqc nerf) and thats reason, why it is broken. Rail Rifle from start meant like automatic precission rifle (rifle for long and medium range) was too OP with its cqc capabilities and CCP nerfed it by "kick-like-mule" fix, what finaly balanced weapond and made it how it should be. Great Long2Medium range powerhouse. But some voices did not want to embrace balance and wanted to have the OPness of RR back and this is its son. Thats whole story of RR boyo and its sad, because i saw it like finalz balanced weapon and thx to some people its more broken than ever
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1079
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Posted - 2014.11.15 23:35:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:The RR sucks right now. I can't get a single kill with the base one unless my targets are far from me and from cover. The ARR is kinda working, but I feel like I keep loosing engagements of which I have set up to be in my advantage (Shadowing them from behind, unload into their head in ADS). What should I do? I run shield regen plus shield tank with arr. Its meh but whateves But ive recently fell for this fit 3 enhanced ext 1 complex ext 1 complex recharge 2 complex rep 1 enhanced plate Ishukone rr Kaalakiota magsec Flux Compact nano
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Maitue Mae
Edimmu Warfighters
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Posted - 2014.11.16 07:35:00 -
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So, I have finally gotten the hang of 1.9. At least I think I do. I just had to stop using my RR in medium or closer ranges. Magsec works like an assault rifle, just rail tech. Thanks guys, I think you guys helped a lot.
Ishukone gave me my papers to transfer into the State
Hail To The Caldari State
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.11.16 07:46:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:So, I have finally gotten the hang of 1.9. At least I think I do. I just had to stop using my RR in medium or closer ranges. Magsec works like an assault rifle, just rail tech. Thanks guys, I think you guys helped a lot. Magsec is a lot better than people take it for.
It's a wonderful beast in the right hands.
And the more you get used to the RR the more you'll be able to wield it in medium ranged fights. Knowing when to switch between weapons is the key to your Faction's Role success like you said.
Glad to see there's one more Caldari in this game that's actually Caldari they are far and few in between.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Baal Omniscient
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.16 07:59:00 -
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I run my Caldari suit like I did back in Chromosome. With a few small adjustments since modules and slots have been rebalanced.
Highs: 4 PRO Extenders, 1 Energizer/Recharger (alternate depending on tank needed) Lows: 2 PRO Shield Regulators, 1 PRO Cardiac Regulator (Caldari stamina and stamina regen sucks, this helps immensely) Light: Gallente AR of choice Side: Minmatar SMG of choice Grenade: ADV Flux Equip: typically hives, occasionally needles.
Even though the Caldari suit's bonus sucks, I still feel it out performs my Minmatar assault in most situations. Especially now that all suits have passive armor regen.
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Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.11.16 08:46:00 -
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The bolt pistol is a great side arm ohk most scouts and really hurts everyone. I like the rail rifle changes and am currently specing into it. I am also working on ck assault I am not sure what to do with it until I get to play with it, but right now my plan is: 1-2 ferroscale plates 1-2 regulators 2 light dmg mods 1 side arm dmg mod 1 energizer and 1 extender
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
116
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Posted - 2014.11.16 08:49:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Well if I were a Caldari like I was in the very early, early days of DUST. This is what I would have fitted had I went on my Roleplaying Kick-ass assault Path. This is what I'd use if I was Caldari (Lore Appropriate): http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/831/7747And this is what I use in real life as a True Gallente (of course it's lore appropriate!): http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/164/7714My Caldari Counterpart has 115 more health than my Gallente suit repairs shield at 10 more hp/s second than my Gallente Recharge delay is 8 seconds faster and depletion delay is 7 seconds faster My Caldari counterpart has 21.75 less armor repair per second to my Gallente. Every other stat is the exact sameThe Gallente is more Short ranged, ambush oriented. The Caldari is more long, mid range oriented with stand and deliver tactics. Both grenades are meant for AV but the flux gets the bonus of hitting infantry but the AV gets the bonus of actually doing damage to vehicle armor. I'd love to see these two fits against each other but sadly no one knows how to properly fit a Caldari suit without armor stacking it. Whhaaat? You have brawled with me at least 3 times in FW, while I was in my pure shield tanked Cal assault. You beat me almost everytime, I was always too close to you. |
CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.16 09:20:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Maitue Mae wrote:So, I have finally gotten the hang of 1.9. At least I think I do. I just had to stop using my RR in medium or closer ranges. Magsec works like an assault rifle, just rail tech. Thanks guys, I think you guys helped a lot. Magsec is a lot better than people take it for. It's a wonderful beast in the right hands. And the more you get used to the RR the more you'll be able to wield it in medium ranged fights. Knowing when to switch between weapons is the key to your Faction's Role success like you said. Glad to see there's one more Caldari in this game that's actually Caldari they are far and few in between. the reason you don't fight against a properly fit caldari assault who goes beastmode is lucky i fight for the gallente. and yes my magsec is a great weapon but shh don't tell no one.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.11.16 13:37:00 -
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Well if I were a Caldari like I was in the very early, early days of DUST. This is what I would have fitted had I went on my Roleplaying Kick-ass assault Path. This is what I'd use if I was Caldari (Lore Appropriate): http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/831/7747And this is what I use in real life as a True Gallente (of course it's lore appropriate!): http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/164/7714My Caldari Counterpart has 115 more health than my Gallente suit repairs shield at 10 more hp/s second than my Gallente Recharge delay is 8 seconds faster and depletion delay is 7 seconds faster My Caldari counterpart has 21.75 less armor repair per second to my Gallente. Every other stat is the exact sameThe Gallente is more Short ranged, ambush oriented. The Caldari is more long, mid range oriented with stand and deliver tactics. Both grenades are meant for AV but the flux gets the bonus of hitting infantry but the AV gets the bonus of actually doing damage to vehicle armor. I'd love to see these two fits against each other but sadly no one knows how to properly fit a Caldari suit without armor stacking it. Whhaaat? You have brawled with me at least 3 times in FW, while I was in my pure shield tanked Cal assault. You beat me almost everytime, I was always too close to you.
yep, because I don't even try to fight if you're 50 meters out. I'll just run away or not shoot at them until I can get you in my field.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2014.11.16 16:04:00 -
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Caldari Assault CK.O
Assault Rail Rifle Bolt Pistol 2 Energizers, 3 Extenders 2 Regulators, Reactive Plate Frag Grenade Injector
Requires a lot of movement between cover, sometimes needing to slowly wear down opponents accross several shorts bursts of action. You can use the assault rails natural range for mid-long ADS, can also sustain bursts of accurate hip fire at less than 15m
If engaging groups at range, the assault skill allows for constant pressure to be maintained.
The bolt pistol is a stalwart sidearm, works either as a finisher in a pinch, or as a defensive weapon firing off the hip and aimed shots at mid-range
A solo player can taie a nanohive instead of an injector Frag grenades are fairly self explanatory
"Regen tanking" can be tricky, but once u get the feel for it it can be very effective vs armour equivalents
Some thoughts on cal assault
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