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Kallas Hallytyr
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Posted - 2014.11.15 23:27:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Those who believe Incubus small rails are better AV than Python small missiles tell me just one simple thing: they can't aim. Leading a moving target is too difficult for them, so they falsely believe the hit scan rail to be superior. It isn't. When two actually talented pilots face off, there is very little time that each pilot can apply his dps before loosing LoS. Therefore with adequate aim, the burst damage of the Python coupled with no overheat makes it the superior AV option. While yes, the new racial bonuses are negligible and not much is lost by fitting a missile to the Incubus, it does nothing to address the fragility of the craft.
Um, way to be a douche. Also an incorrect douche: in the time it takes to fire 8 missiles, you've fired more rail shots, which do marginally less damage per shot (477.62 vs missile 500.5) in a shorter amount of time with better damage application (there is vastly less travel time.)
In 3 seconds, an XT-1 will fire 2.87 missiles (otherwise known as two) which, assuming both hit, deals 1001 damage (800.8 vs shields; 1201.2 vs armour.)
The Particle Cannon fires (including charge-up) 4 (4.31) projectiles, dealing 1910.48 damage (1719.432 vs shields; 2101.528 vs armour.)
Tell me again how rail gunners who say they do better...are somehow worse shots? If they can land more shots (which is inherently more difficult) against the evading target, why do you belittle them?
I understand that you're frustrated about the Incubus being hurt vastly more by AV, but quit your bitching and try to actually provide useful posts: you used to.
DUST Fiend wrote:This doesn't even touch on survivability, which the Python far exceeds the Incubus. Any pilot worth his salt can see that if they wish to compete, they HAVE to defect to Caldari.
Again, its because of AV not having a full gamut of effective weapons, also because the single most simple weapon in the game is anti-armour AV.
Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
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Kallas Hallytyr
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Posted - 2014.11.15 23:57:00 -
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If you're going to be upset, then lobby for change. Don't just sit complaining to your fellows, make posts, provide feedback and numbers and try and actually do something. Your whining is tiresome.
Why fit an AV Incubus? Because as much as 15% is a guff primary bonus, the Incubus is more effective at the AV role, especially against the currently more prevalent shield vehicles. I do, often, call in my RailBus because it is better at destroying tanks and I'm far more effective at downing enemy DSs in it: sure, travel time can be accounted for, but why use the inferior weapon when I can destroy them quickly - if they are calling in plenty of vehicles, I'm going to be plenty occupied in my Incubus such that my lack of AP potential own irrelevant; if they're not calling in plenty of vehicles, I can down them reasonably in my Python then concentrate on AP work.
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At the end of the day, you're correct that the Incubus is outperformed very often by the Python, but this is because of the lack of racial parity. But your current trend of complaining is not helpful in any way and is irritating when you would otherwise provide a valuable, experienced voice.
Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
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Kallas Hallytyr
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Posted - 2014.11.16 04:15:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Its only inaccurate if you are. Sustained dps isnt too important on an ADS because you and your targets are always moving. In the time it takes to re target, missiles are reloaded in most cases. THIS is the most important part.
It is very important, because I think it shows a distinct lack of clarity.
While yes, missiles will often be reloaded once the fighters have reengaged...so have the railguns. The railgun fires more shots at a marginally lower power in the same engagement window meaning that if the pilot is accurate enough to land their missiles, they are accurate enough to land all of the rail shots...which means more damage dealt.
And considering that missiles require you to be of above average accuracy, rails do not; yet if you are of above average accuracy, you will land your rail bursts more reliably, and thus deal more damage. And to reiterate: in a small engagement window, a Python with max skills will get off 2-3 shots; the Incubus with max skills will get off 4-6. That difference in ROF between the missile/rail !fans the rail is by far the superior in terms of damage.
Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
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