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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.11.15 04:43:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:My Incubus used to be called Leviathan
Now I just call it what it is; Trash
Im still fond of my Gorgon, Zola
Why the Incubus hate, Bro?
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.11.15 21:14:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:My Incubus used to be called Leviathan
Now I just call it what it is; Trash
Im still fond of my Gorgon, Zola Why the Incubus hate, Bro? Because it's garbage. Ive been a dedicated Gallente pilot from the very beginning. They've always been the underdog compared to caldari ships, but they were serviceable. Now, they are outclassed on every single front by the Python Those who believe Incubus small rails are better AV than Python small missiles tell me just one simple thing: they can't aim. Leading a moving target is too difficult for them, so they falsely believe the hit scan rail to be superior. It isn't. When two actually talented pilots face off, there is very little time that each pilot can apply his dps before loosing LoS. Therefore with adequate aim, the burst damage of the Python coupled with no overheat makes it the superior AV option. While yes, the new racial bonuses are negligible and not much is lost by fitting a missile to the Incubus, it does nothing to address the fragility of the craft. This doesn't even touch on survivability, which the Python far exceeds the Incubus. Any pilot worth his salt can see that if they wish to compete, they HAVE to defect to Caldari. So long as Rat is at the helm, this is unlikely to change.
Strongly disagree. Incubus is just as survivable as the Python, more even, if used properly. The sheer amount of pinpoint damage the Incubus can deal makes it the ideal AV platform, while the Python is the undisputed king of AI.
If you're getting consistently outplayed by Python pilots, I'd suggest trying out a different fit. That shouldn't be happening.
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.11.16 02:27:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Lmao if you think Incubus is more survivable than Python hahaha.
I have far more than enough flight time under my belt to draw my own conclusions, but please, by all means, keep flying your Incubus. More WP and less competition for me :)
Your signature is telling
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.11.16 02:37:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote: 1. Plates affect speed Python strengths in ADS v ADS: 1. Hardeners are more effective than Incubus, albeit shorter duration 2. Has an advantage RoF wise 3. Has an advantage over main tank of Incubus (missle profile) 4. Has no overheat on missiles 5. Has native resistance on main tank versus rails (blasters... don't count for obvious reasons) 6. More maneuvarable 7. Better in CQC than blaster or rail Incubus (really?)
Now, none of this can change until more anti shield weaponry is released, so this will be an ongoing problem.
Advantage in ROF? I really don't think so. Python has short bursts of inaccurate Alpha damage, which fits as it's a quick strike kind of role.
Incubus has the better ROF, can sustain it for longer, and is more accurate. Therefore, it is clearly superior in vehicle versus vehicle situations.
If you recall, the small rails used to be better against shields, but that was changed to bring it into parity with other Caldari weaponry. I like this, because causing armor damage is far more beneficial on the battlefield than shield damage.
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.11.16 02:42:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Lmao if you think Incubus is more survivable than Python hahaha.
I have far more than enough flight time under my belt to draw my own conclusions, but please, by all means, keep flying your Incubus. More WP and less competition for me :) Your signature is telling Particularly that "vehicle specialist" bit
I feel like we're working towards the same goal, but I'm offended that you think my chosen role is inferior. My experience tells me otherwise, but it's good to hear other positions.
Besides, if you actually manage to get the Incubus buffed, it will only end up benefiting me. So go right ahead, I'm rooting for you
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Posted - 2014.11.16 02:56:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:LUGMOS wrote: 1. Plates affect speed Python strengths in ADS v ADS: 1. Hardeners are more effective than Incubus, albeit shorter duration 2. Has an advantage RoF wise 3. Has an advantage over main tank of Incubus (missle profile) 4. Has no overheat on missiles 5. Has native resistance on main tank versus rails (blasters... don't count for obvious reasons) 6. More maneuvarable 7. Better in CQC than blaster or rail Incubus (really?)
Now, none of this can change until more anti shield weaponry is released, so this will be an ongoing problem.
Advantage in ROF? I really don't think so. Python has short bursts of inaccurate Alpha damage, which fits as it's a quick strike kind of role. Incubus has the better ROF, can sustain it for longer, and is more accurate. Therefore, it is clearly superior in vehicle versus vehicle situations. If you recall, the small rails used to be better against shields, but that was changed to bring it into parity with other Caldari weaponry. I like this, because causing armor damage is far more beneficial on the battlefield than shield damage. From what I've seen, the missiles shoot faster. But I am not sure. Anywho, because of the resistance shields has on it, the advantage on ROF is brought down, and is equalized or even surpassed because of the missile's effectivity versus the armor of the Python. And why would you say causing armor damage is more beneficial? I'm very curious to see the reasoning. I also can't see the accuracy point. They are both pinpoint accurate.
Rails fire faster. Always have, hopefully always will.
Triple repped madrugers, installations, other Incubuses. These are the things that have the most potential for giving me trouble, and they're all armor based. (obviously excluding infantry av) Dealing damage to armor also gives you a better chance for vehicle damage WP due most likely to their higher HP totals and easy to hit weak spots.
Accuracy in that it has longer range and the projectile travels faster.
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.11.16 03:02:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote: I used STRICTLY Gallente vehicles since I joined in March 2012 up until just recently
I would love nothing more than to not despise my Incubus
I was strictly Caldari until just a few months ago, (before the recent hotfixes) and switched to an Incubus because I was tired of getting rammed by them all the time.
Nowadays, I almost exclusively fly an Incubus in pubs and PC, and enjoy the superior anti vehicle capabilities it provides. It's the role I enjoy, and it's what I'm best at.
EDIT: I also don't fit missiles on my Incubus, or rails on my Python (as if lol) I'm a purist, and believe that they both are efficient platforms for the jobs they were built for.
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