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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.11.18 18:23:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:Not at all, and I am not suggesting 16 players can either, but that's the point.
But why? How is what Syncers do any different from just Quing one squad into a match, contacting another that might appear in it, and working together?
Why do you feel individual players unwilling to help the militia as a whole deserve LP?
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Blueprint For Murder
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Posted - 2014.11.18 18:43:00 -
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Thus it is that in war the victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory.-Sun Tzu
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The Master Race
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Posted - 2014.11.18 18:43:00 -
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Thus it is that in war the victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory.-Sun Tzu
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.11.18 18:48:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:Thus it is that in war the victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory.-Sun Tzu
Quoting Sun Tzu does little to reinforce your position and actively makes you look like a pretentious ass.
Speak your points clearly or concede that you cannot argue why you feel an individuals efforts is more valuable than a teams efforts.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1980
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Posted - 2014.11.18 18:56:00 -
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B-F M wrote:I agree that q-syncing is fine in FW - how else are teams supposed to really work together? Q-syncing in pubs is much more of a problem because pubs are the only remaining option for casual battles. Not everyone wants to play at 100% of their gear/skill limits every game. Also, remove proto from pubs. 
i would disagree.. regardless of gear level
is its a qsync vs maybe 1 squad and randomberrys the q sync most always wins.. and loses nearly no proto suits at all where as the losers lose multiple and then they feel like they dont want to sign up again which causes FW to grind to a halt.. and which forces the proto qsyncers to go stomp in pubs.. do you see what im trying to get at?
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Blueprint For Murder
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Posted - 2014.11.18 18:59:00 -
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I am obviously a pretentious ass :D. Nah I just like to use the words of men much wiser than myself. There is a level of planing an preparation that can not possibly be met by a militia group, and many guilds are not even able to field 16 players nor have the ability or understanding of math and statistical advantages min max players use; I mean this is a console game I doubt many of the players have ever played a hardcore mmo let alone lived in one. lol
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The Master Race
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Posted - 2014.11.18 18:59:00 -
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I am obviously a pretentious ass :D. Nah I just like to use the words of men much wiser than myself. There is a level of planing an preparation that can not possibly be met by a militia group, and many guilds are not even able to field 16 players nor have the ability or understanding of math and statistical advantages min max players use; I mean this is a console game I doubt many of the players have ever played a hardcore mmo let alone lived in one. lol
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1981
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Posted - 2014.11.18 19:02:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:I am obviously a pretentious ass :D. Nah I just like to use the words of men much wiser than myself. There is a level of planing an preparation that can not possibly be met by a militia group, and many guilds are not even able to field 16 players nor have the ability or understanding of math and statistical advantages min max players use; I mean this is a console game I doubt many of the players have ever played a hardcore mmo let alone lived in one. lol
you mean corps.. go back to wow ;p
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The Master Race
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Posted - 2014.11.18 19:12:00 -
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:D I played wow for 8 years and spent time in many other mmos as well don't hate lol. If my psu didn't need replaced I would probably burn some time on GW2 and maybe hit up eve I miss my m8s /tear. I am also really looking forward to EQN the whole mine craft vibe they have going has got my attention.
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Blueprint For Murder
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Posted - 2014.11.18 19:12:00 -
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:D I played wow for 8 years and spent time in many other mmos as well don't hate lol. If my psu didn't need replaced I would probably burn some time on GW2 and maybe hit up eve I miss my m8s /tear. I am also really looking forward to EQN the whole mine craft vibe they have going has got my attention.
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B-F M
Ghosts of Dawn
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Posted - 2014.11.18 19:14:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:B-F M wrote:I agree that q-syncing is fine in FW - how else are teams supposed to really work together? Q-syncing in pubs is much more of a problem because pubs are the only remaining option for casual battles. Not everyone wants to play at 100% of their gear/skill limits every game. Also, remove proto from pubs. i would disagree.. regardless of gear level is its a qsync vs maybe 1 squad and randomberrys the q sync most always wins.. and loses nearly no proto suits at all where as the losers lose multiple and then they feel like they dont want to sign up again which causes FW to grind to a halt.. and which forces the proto qsyncers to go stomp in pubs.. do you see what im trying to get at?
Well then it depends on the intended design of FW: is it "practice PC" or "higher stakes pub with a different currency"
I thought it was supposed to be practice PC, if so, it only makes sense if corps can sync up squads. Otherwise it's not practice PC at all.
But if it's just higher stakes pub, then yeah, q-sync gives one team a significant advantage and is not a great experience for the other team.
I'm not sure I agree with the statement "forces the proto qsynced to to go stomp in pubs", while that may be true in some cases I think that a lot of people just stomp pubs anyway. I mean, since FW pays out no ISK, unless your stomping in full LP gear you'd NEED to to pubs.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.11.18 19:33:00 -
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B-F M wrote:
I thought it was supposed to be practice PC, if so, it only makes sense if corps can sync up squads. Otherwise it's not practice PC at all.
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I refute that notion. Could care less about PC and Molden Heath, I'm in it because FW is (should be) its own wholly seperate game mode.
If EVE connection meant something and perhaps PC space opened up in Provi.... PCLAS might make an attempt at PC if the Admiralty allows us.
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Mad Kras
Made in Poland...
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Posted - 2014.11.18 20:51:00 -
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I Q-sync on FW, I win, you lose. Know what? Counter the Q-sync by Q-syncking as well. Ever tried to win an Amarr or Caldari FW without the Q-sync? You just complain about everithing man, shame on you
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Blueprint For Murder
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Posted - 2014.11.18 21:17:00 -
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So practice for who the pubs or the PC players lol?
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.11.18 21:33:00 -
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Mad Kras wrote:I Q-sync on FW, I win, you lose. Know what? Counter the Q-sync by Q-syncking as well. Ever tried to win an Amarr or Caldari FW without the Q-sync? You just complain about everithing man, shame on you
Actually its not all that hard to win without a Q-Sync but that doesn't mean I don't want a good bunch of guys at my back in case things go to hell.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1991
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Posted - 2014.11.18 21:34:00 -
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Mad Kras wrote:I Q-sync on FW, I win, you lose. Know what? Counter the Q-sync by Q-syncking as well. Ever tried to win an Amarr or Caldari FW without the Q-sync? You just complain about everithing man, shame on you
thats the thing you cant really battle qsync with qsync unless you both sign up at the same time but even then chances are slim
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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.11.18 21:36:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote::D I played wow for 8 years and spent time in many other mmos as well don't hate lol. If my psu didn't need replaced I would probably burn some time on GW2 and maybe hit up eve I miss my m8s /tear. I am also really looking forward to EQN the whole mine craft vibe they have going has got my attention.
i can respect gw2 and eve.. but wow is just.. well a good example of wow is the southpark episode dedicated to wow
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Blueprint For Murder
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Posted - 2014.11.18 22:00:00 -
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Wol competition is no joke bro that combat style is just to outdated. I love GW2 world wide baby on blackgate we have commanders from all over the world in every time zone and translators so everyone can understand it is insane. My favorite pve only mmo was Dnd traps everywhere. a good combat system, and I could grease my own party what more could a wizard ask for.
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