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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
19792
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:08:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote: 1, I asked how did we become the Caldari Faction/How we successfully succeeded from the Federation?
By bombing a city and ramming capital ships into cities.
Quote: 2, I don't see how you missed that twice, are the Gallente even teaching children these days? (Not an insult to you, how ever much I wish it to be it wasn't directed to you.)
How curious you should refer to the Gallente education system! The Gallente system is unrivalled. The largest schools in New Eden are all Federation schools. Education is a key part of Gallente culture, the emphasis on free, individual thought filling society with intellectual discourse and quality arts. Free education is entitled to every citizen, as with free healthcare.
There is a reason that we see more educated souls in the Federation than in the State.
Quote: 3, What did I claim you said? 'I have no idea what you're ranting about here.' What did you say? 'I have no idea of what you're ranting about here.'
Your declaration about the Caldari Faction was confusing and your argument that the Caldari exist means that the Gallente "aren't the 'master race'" was even more so, given that I have never claimed 'Gallente master race' and marking it as if I did is deceptive.
Quote: 4, I'm not a fool, I can tell Haerr doesn't have ties with the State, he had 'Gallente Federation' Alliance tag for crying out loud. Even though he may not be loyal to us (to my knowledge.) He did do something I can respect.
Recruited fodder so he can farm more LP? Yep, that's why I respect him!
*cuts 5 from lack of quotes* I have no faith in your ability to define things given you have previously stated that what you post is never propaganda.
Quote: 6, Beheading diplomats? Since when have I beheaded someone?
A prominent ISC diplomat and scientist by the name of Sebastienne Po-Lana was beheaded by a Caldari warlord for a breach of etiquette. She had overlooked removing her shoes upon entering an old Raata shrine, angering her hosts despite her profuse apologies.
Beheading someone over not taking their shoes off (and over an innocent mistake rather than any intentional disrespect) is hardly the mark of a civilised nation.
The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
19792
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:14:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Quick note to Ark. You seem a bit confused, I have no respect for Heth, he ignored the winds when he should've listened, now he hides like a roach after turning a light on.
Oh, no, I don't particularly think you're a Heth supporter. The problems with the State hardly ended with Heth, though.
The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15333
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:16:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:
Very biased stuff.
Okay.... I'm not one who likes to be involved in your tit for tat rhetoric.....but.....
The Federation was already putting economic and cultural pressures on the isolationist Caldari even before the Caldari, with their closed economy, started the installation of its hidden colonies and arguably the bombings and capital ship crashing was response to aggressive Federal Military action.....now I'm no saying dialogue was not the best option.....it was...... but lets get a few things straight.
In regards to your assertions that a Caldari are barbaric for beheading a diplomat....... the former Admiral Noir and winner of the Aldonis Peace Award crashed a Nyx into the Malaken V Ishukone stations killing Otro Gariushi (in the modern era of diplomacy) and set back the State-Federation relations 10 years for his successor Mens Reppola to repair.
Tit for tats abound in your collective racial histories...... I doubt you can come up with one instance of conflict or barbarism that the other cannot match.
I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this.
Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
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Harkon Vysarii
Intermediate.Purgatory
471
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:21:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Quick note to Ark. You seem a bit confused, I have no respect for Heth, he ignored the winds when he should've listened, now he hides like a roach after turning a light on. Oh, no, I don't particularly think you're a Heth supporter. The problems with the State hardly ended with Heth, though.
This Raven character is weak, unpatriotic, libertarian scum.
Heth unified the State, Maker bless that man....... and the cowards from Ishukone tore down all he had made for us. Would that the weak and unpatriotic stayed far from central State leadership.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
19793
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:23:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: The Federation was already putting economic and cultural pressures on the isolationist Caldari even before the Caldari, with their closed economy, started the installation of its hidden colonies and arguably the bombings and capital ship crashing was response to aggressive Federal Military action.....now I'm no saying dialogue was not the best option.....it was...... but lets get a few things straight.
Confirming that cultural differences are a reason to bomb a city. The military responded after an entire city was razed, with every man, woman, and child killed.
Quote: In regards to your assertions that a Caldari are barbaric for beheading a diplomat....... the former Admiral Noir and winner of the Aldonis Peace Award crashed a Nyx into the Malaken V Ishukone stations killing Otro Gariushi (in the modern era of diplomacy) and set back the State-Federation relations 10 years for his successor Mens Reppola to repair.
The Broker* crashed that Nyx.
There is a difference between an attack from a hijacked ship no longer owned by that government and a savage killing over a trivial detail sanctioned by their government.
The crashing was rather more of a war crime and one hardly supported by the Senate, while the Caldari customs promote such barbaric killings as that beheading and were supported by their government.
We can go 'tit-for-tat' all day on war crimes between the two groups, but there is no parallel in the Federation that actually supports the brutal murder of people for minor details. A beheading? Really?
Harkon Vysarii wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Quick note to Ark. You seem a bit confused, I have no respect for Heth, he ignored the winds when he should've listened, now he hides like a roach after turning a light on. Oh, no, I don't particularly think you're a Heth supporter. The problems with the State hardly ended with Heth, though. This Raven character is weak, unpatriotic, libertarian scum. Heth unified the State, Maker bless that man....... and the cowards from Ishukone tore down all he had made for us. Would that the weak and unpatriotic stayed far from central State leadership.
And here is an excellent example of a Caldari supporter who I am genuinely set against.
The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15340
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:34:00 -
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((OOC knowledge..... tut tut Arkena ..... hell I doubt people like us even know The Broker Exists and I can only comment on what I believe to be true.))
I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this.
Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
19793
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:42:00 -
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I have a tendency to lecture people while OOC. :/
I've been meaning to attempt proper RP, hence my awkward entry into the PCLAS thread, but I'm mostly driven in these threads by factional loyalty rather than pure RP.
The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
1109
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:46:00 -
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Harkon Vysarii wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Quick note to Ark. You seem a bit confused, I have no respect for Heth, he ignored the winds when he should've listened, now he hides like a roach after turning a light on. Oh, no, I don't particularly think you're a Heth supporter. The problems with the State hardly ended with Heth, though. This Raven character is weak, unpatriotic, libertarian scum. Heth unified the State, Maker bless that man....... and the cowards from Ishukone tore down all he had made for us. Would that the weak and unpatriotic stayed far from central State leadership. I wonder if there is a loyalist as patriotic as me, on the Caldari side anyway. Did I ever tell you why my name is Raven? Originally I took the Raven as a creature to represent our state, to this day I still carry it's name out of love for the State. Almost if not all of my aspects scream 'Caldari Patriot' or as Ark would see it 'Caldari Terrorist'
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
1109
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:47:00 -
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((How did the Gal/Cal debate room get moved, but not this?))
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Harkon Vysarii
Intermediate.Purgatory
471
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:51:00 -
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Ah..... my old enemy Arkena..... Maker willing I get permission from SuVee to return to the battlefield, these.....brutal...corporate take overs are such a bore. |
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
1109
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:51:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:there is no parallel in the Federation that actually supports the brutal murder of people for minor details. If the Black Eagle defect is telling the truth you are right, they don't murder people for minor details, but instead for simply being unlucky enough to be chosen for a Black Eagle's training, that is if the defect is to be believed.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
19794
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:56:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote: I wonder if there is a loyalist as patriotic as me, on the Caldari side anyway. Did I ever tell you why my name is Raven? Originally I took the Raven as a creature to represent our state, to this day I still carry it's name out of love for the State. Almost if not all of my aspects scream 'Caldari Patriot' or as Ark would see it 'Caldari Terrorist'
I reserve the title of terrorists for Heth loyalists, not you. His government was a terrorist organisation. The present mishmash is not.
I doubt you're the only Caldari patriot. Their entire education system is built around indoctrination, and while it's amusing to believe that they're so incompetent as to only get one person successfully trained, that's most certainly not the case.
Harkon Vysarii wrote:Ah..... my old enemy Arkena..... Maker willing I get permission from SuVee to return to the battlefield, these.....brutal...corporate take overs are such a bore.
If your 'Maker' is willing for you to meet him, then perhaps it will indeed happen.
The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
1109
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Posted - 2014.12.02 21:00:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote: I wonder if there is a loyalist as patriotic as me, on the Caldari side anyway. Did I ever tell you why my name is Raven? Originally I took the Raven as a creature to represent our state, to this day I still carry it's name out of love for the State. Almost if not all of my aspects scream 'Caldari Patriot' or as Ark would see it 'Caldari Terrorist'
I reserve the title of terrorists for Heth loyalists, not you. His government was a terrorist organisation. The present mishmash is not. I doubt you're the only Caldari patriot. Their entire education system is built around indoctrination, and while it's amusing to believe that they're so incompetent as to only get one person successfully trained, that's most certainly not the case. Harkon Vysarii wrote:Ah..... my old enemy Arkena..... Maker willing I get permission from SuVee to return to the battlefield, these.....brutal...corporate take overs are such a bore. If your 'Maker' is indeed willing for you to meet him, then perhaps it will indeed happen. I know there are countless others, I was wondering if I happened to be one of the most Patriotic Caldari Loyalist that isn't completely crazy. (I met one that answered every question with 'The Federation must be destroyed Mr. Raven.' I am convinced the Gallente did a deal on her...)
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
1109
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Posted - 2014.12.02 21:14:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote: I wonder if there is a loyalist as patriotic as me, on the Caldari side anyway. Did I ever tell you why my name is Raven? Originally I took the Raven as a creature to represent our state, to this day I still carry it's name out of love for the State. Almost if not all of my aspects scream 'Caldari Patriot' or as Ark would see it 'Caldari Terrorist'
I reserve the title of terrorists for Heth loyalists, not you. His government was a terrorist organisation. The present mishmash is not. I doubt you're the only Caldari patriot. Their entire education system is built around indoctrination, and while it's amusing to believe that they're so incompetent as to only get one person successfully trained, that's most certainly not the case. Harkon Vysarii wrote:Ah..... my old enemy Arkena..... Maker willing I get permission from SuVee to return to the battlefield, these.....brutal...corporate take overs are such a bore. If your 'Maker' is willing for you to meet him, then perhaps it will indeed happen. The Maker sits and watches from afar, he doesn't directly interfere with us. The Winds and Nature spirits do that.
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
1109
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Posted - 2014.12.02 21:17:00 -
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((I almost forgot I can't control the factions like my Parabunnies... I've been playing that too long.))
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Henrietta Unknown
Kirjuun Heiian
579
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Posted - 2014.12.03 02:08:00 -
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Read up.
Ghosts Chance wrote:first find 16 people... better yet find more than that since your going ot need to pick and choose based on SP
you need - a commander, a side role mostly, must be able to predict battle flow and is responcable for calling out what objectives to push, where squads should spawn, and what is the priority at any givin moment. this is make or break. - dropship pilot with either amaar or minmatar logi suit with complex hacking modules in every low (uplinks manditory the rest is just nice - 2 tankers with flexability as far as turrets and both gunnlogi/madrugar
thats your command squad.
squad 1
- 2-3 heavys (amaar) -2 minmatar logis (uplink, nano, rep, needle) - 1-2 scouts either amaar (anti scout role), gallente (anti logi role) (uplinks a must)
squad 2
2-3 scouts caldari and gallente preefered uplinks a must 1 gallente logi the rest fill as per preferance
command squad does the primary communication as you have the FC and your dropship with the greatest innsight into the battle, the tankers need to communicate well with the fc and the dropship to counter other dropships and tanks, EVERYONE ELSE fills the needs of these 4 people.
squad 1 is a defencive squad, specilised in holding a point, used for entrenched defence or used in a switch to prolong a failing objective to buy time to use squad 2 in taking a different one. you need to be proactive in telling these guys what their primary objective is and if nessesary they ALL need to suicide for a hot swap on a freesh uplink on a newly ninjad base.
squad two is your attack squad, used in harrasement int hee event that you hold a winning number of objectives and used to capture new objectives when you need them. stealthy quick and very anti-scout it needs to be able to get in, kill off enamy uplinks, and place their own in a very short amount of time, used to create a position in wich squad 1 can inhabit.
squad one is also built so that you can split it into 2 squads to defend two closer together objectives, BUT only if they are still in range enough to suppport each other.
Loyalty demands a fight to the death, in any way possible.
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Haerr
2099
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Posted - 2014.12.03 16:18:00 -
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Henrietta Unknown wrote:Read up. Ghosts Chance wrote:first find 16 people... better yet find more than that since your going ot need to pick and choose based on SP
you need - a commander, a side role mostly, must be able to predict battle flow and is responcable for calling out what objectives to push, where squads should spawn, and what is the priority at any givin moment. this is make or break. - dropship pilot with either amaar or minmatar logi suit with complex hacking modules in every low (uplinks manditory the rest is just nice - 2 tankers with flexability as far as turrets and both gunnlogi/madrugar
thats your command squad.
squad 1
- 2-3 heavys (amaar) -2 minmatar logis (uplink, nano, rep, needle) - 1-2 scouts either amaar (anti scout role), gallente (anti logi role) (uplinks a must)
squad 2
2-3 scouts caldari and gallente preefered uplinks a must 1 gallente logi the rest fill as per preferance
command squad does the primary communication as you have the FC and your dropship with the greatest innsight into the battle, the tankers need to communicate well with the fc and the dropship to counter other dropships and tanks, EVERYONE ELSE fills the needs of these 4 people.
squad 1 is a defencive squad, specilised in holding a point, used for entrenched defence or used in a switch to prolong a failing objective to buy time to use squad 2 in taking a different one. you need to be proactive in telling these guys what their primary objective is and if nessesary they ALL need to suicide for a hot swap on a freesh uplink on a newly ninjad base.
squad two is your attack squad, used in harrasement int hee event that you hold a winning number of objectives and used to capture new objectives when you need them. stealthy quick and very anti-scout it needs to be able to get in, kill off enamy uplinks, and place their own in a very short amount of time, used to create a position in wich squad 1 can inhabit.
squad one is also built so that you can split it into 2 squads to defend two closer together objectives, BUT only if they are still in range enough to suppport each other.
Good stuff! +1 Don't forget to head over to the Caldari FW channel "Kirjuun Heiian" Lots of good people to squad up with there!
The time has come GÇö Caldari FW GÇö Kirjuun Heiian
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
19819
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Posted - 2014.12.03 16:19:00 -
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That material would be more effective if team deploys were actually a thing.
The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.
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Haerr
2100
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Posted - 2014.12.03 18:30:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:((How did the Gal/Cal debate room get moved, but not this?)) Because this is GD at its finest!
The time has come GÇö Caldari FW GÇö Kirjuun Heiian
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Haerr
2100
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Posted - 2014.12.03 18:41:00 -
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Dead Man's Game are deploying for Caldari! Caldari nets yet another victory!
All are welcomed to join Caldari FW GÇö Channel: "Kirjuun Heiian"
The time has come GÇö Caldari FW GÇö Kirjuun Heiian
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