[quote=Vitantur Nothus] Rotation speed.



I can agree with everything that you said besides this , that's because .. if you played scout , you know how a sentinel turns to defend and actually it's not fast now , you can strafe and SG or NK or any other quick kill weapon them because they don't turn fast with a HMG ( contrary to what people say , if you can't kill them then your the one with the problem because I can do it and I suck at scout and using SG and NK ) so this kinda makes them even more instakillable .

This is such a bad idea and when I see people saying this I just can't help but to think that their bias and just anti-heavy because scouts already do wreak heavies with a third and sometimes less of HP's and this would increase the scouts numbers more because that's part of the problem already is the fact that they are instakill monsters .

I can understand the premise and all but if that part of your proposal ( if enacted because this is how it should be and I've thought along the same lines myself ) didn't effect heavies then I would be all onboard .

You can say that you play heavy all you like and the rest of the talk but anybody that has played multiple roles without bias , just knows how wrong this would be for heavies .

Say what you will but they turn fast enough ( barely ) to defend themselves and that's how it should be .

Weight discrepancies would just handicap that role .

They already have enough .

Except that you're taking that out of context. He was explicitly saying that in reference to it being a horrible terrible mechanic. If the HMG heavy is supposed to be CQB dominance, then it can't have a turnspeed limit, otherwise everything will simply orbit them and shoot them in the side of the head.

The only difference from the Chrome era would be that heavies will just take longer to helplessly die to people doing that.

With that said, Breakin also has an excellent thread on evicting HMG heavies from CQB and making them long-range fire support instead. Check it out here.

3/10 of a second is very quick. I'm sure it's there, it's just too quick for you to notice. ;)

That said, I've never run p*ssy cloaks, but I do run Amarr scout.

No, that's not the same thing at all. Using cloaks to turn invisible and shoot somebody in the back, and then cloaking back up, for the sake of running away, is what makes it a p*ssy piece of equipment and makes a p*ssy player. I'm all about using equipment. I love it. I love my ammo and rep hives. I love being a logi. I never said using any kind of equipment was being a p*ssy. I just stated that cloaks are for pussies.

What really gets my goat these days though is the idiot scouts who thinks that they have every right to charge straight at me and win, when I can see them from 30 meters away. This is, in my experiencing, something that seems to be happening more often too. A scout with a shotgun or knives, who starts at least twenty or thirty meters away from me, and in my sight, should not win that engagement.