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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.11.12 03:27:00 -
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@OP
A scout's cloak isn't OP, don't believe me? Run a Cal Scout C - 1 (Not C/-1) w/ federation shotgun and basic cloak, watch how fast you're detected without a scan, hell if a few bullets graze your shoulder you enter 'run or die' mode.
@Za'ki
Scouts wear lighter dropsuits than heavies, logis, and assaults and thus should be able to move faster in them, this mean sidestepping too.
"For The State! That is the only three words I will ever need to know." - Sir Raven wing
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.11.13 16:24:00 -
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Kallas Hallytyr wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Also the cloak being deactivated after being hit is a terrible idea because (Correct me if I'm wrong)
1) Any blueberry could be firing bullets in a random direction and should a scout be hit, the scout will have to rush the blueberry and then hope no one heard the shotgun blast.
2) Lore (Correct me if I'm wrong) 1) Well, anyone who is in a stream of bullets should be plenty visible. And this actually follows into... 2) you are wrong. Cloaking, in EVE, is deactivated if anyone comes within a certain radius of you (2km I believe) - scaled down to DUST this'd probably be about 20m. More reasonably, deactivation upon the reception of damage makes plenty of sense: stealth is gone when bullets are flying, you should either fight or disengage to re cloak.
1)Thank you for correcting me there.
2) 20m would be a bit too much should it have to recharge, perhaps 10m w/ recharge or 15 with it being instantly reactivatable?
3) Deactivation upon receiving damage would make for a problem, as fall damage, friendly fire, and getting hurt by your own locus/flux are all damage, but having your cloak go down because of these are just senseless (Other than the explosive, you deserve it if you manage to hit yourself with it)
4) Again on the 20m subject, I use my cloak mainly for what I like to call 'recon' as I sit still while cloaked and give my squad orders. several times I have been within inches of an enemy (Ak.0 commandos mostly, sometimes a logi) that I ignore as long as I possibly can or normally give an order to attack the enemy, yes my cloak runs out sometimes right after they pass and sometimes when they are passing, but compared to the 20m idea, they would notice me the second they are within 20m, which would mean death to me and probably a lot of cloak users.
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:38:00 -
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Kallas Hallytyr wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:3) Deactivation upon receiving damage would make for a problem, as fall damage, friendly fire, and getting hurt by your own locus/flux are all damage, but having your cloak go down because of these are just senseless (Other than the explosive, you deserve it if you manage to hit yourself with it) Well, I'd presume that it would be coded such that the source of damage is taken into account. Friendly fire and self-inflicted damage should both definitely cause decloak.
I have no problem with self inflicted damage, but the friendly fire does impose a problem as in FW any scout could get caught in a blueberry's fire and be decloaked, perhaps even killed. While you could die even without the decloak, you would probably be killed by enemies if you survive (An ADV ACR will chew up any scout, from my experiences) or if the scout is fired on by a frightened blue (I've shot my own team before because they come running around the corner while cloaked) then say an enemy see the scout auto decloak (Say using a Rail or a Sniper) The scout will be 'wounded' and will be a easy target for the red. Besides the cloak already lights up like a christmas tree when moving/hit, so why take the ability to stay cloaked?
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