Kallas Hallytyr
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Posted - 2014.11.13 05:14:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Also the cloak being deactivated after being hit is a terrible idea because (Correct me if I'm wrong)
1) Any blueberry could be firing bullets in a random direction and should a scout be hit, the scout will have to rush the blueberry and then hope no one heard the shotgun blast.
2) Lore (Correct me if I'm wrong)
1) Well, anyone who is in a stream of bullets should be plenty visible. And this actually follows into...
2) you are wrong. Cloaking, in EVE, is deactivated if anyone comes within a certain radius of you (2km I believe) - scaled down to DUST this'd probably be about 20m. More reasonably, deactivation upon the reception of damage makes plenty of sense: stealth is gone when bullets are flying, you should either fight or disengage to recloak.
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Kallas Hallytyr
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:13:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:2) 20m would be a bit too much should it have to recharge, perhaps 10m w/ recharge or 15 with it being instantly reactivatable?
I'd probably say that it would drop the cloak to half charge (so immediately able to reactivate) if above, and just decloak if below half. The cloak is a stealth tool: it should be used to get close to, not to get inside of, someone. 20m is covered by a base Scout in about 2-3s: only Knives need to be at 2m, and they shouldn't be used from the front while Shotguns have plenty of range after a second of sprinting.
sir RAVEN WING wrote:3) Deactivation upon receiving damage would make for a problem, as fall damage, friendly fire, and getting hurt by your own locus/flux are all damage, but having your cloak go down because of these are just senseless (Other than the explosive, you deserve it if you manage to hit yourself with it)
Well, I'd presume that it would be coded such that the source of damage is taken into account. Friendly fire and self-inflicted damage should both definitely cause decloak.
sir RAVEN WING wrote:4) Again on the 20m subject, I use my cloak mainly for what I like to call 'recon' as I sit still while cloaked and give my squad orders. several times I have been within inches of an enemy (Ak.0 commandos mostly, sometimes a logi) that I ignore as long as I possibly can or normally give an order to attack the enemy, yes my cloak runs out sometimes right after they pass and sometimes when they are passing, but compared to the 20m idea, they would notice me the second they are within 20m, which would mean death to me and probably a lot of cloak users.
Indeed, I have also had the same experience (although I have just respec'd out of GalScouts) but the thing is, this game has a lore and in that lore we have the EVE cloaks where ours are drawn from: Capsuleers lose cloak when an enemy comes close because at such short ranges the cloak interference with EWar reveals the position.
Essentially, you can use a cloak to get close, but it should not substitute for actual, proper stealth ability: it should be a tool to enhance stealth prowess, not replace it. Being revealed within 20m does not mean that you are noticed: you should have positioned yourself such that people do not walk right through your position.
Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
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