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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:

Breakin Stuff wrote:

Joseph Ridgeson wrote:

I actually think there are less Heavies and Scouts than we think in a particular. However, they are getting more kills. When I am playing in either Tank or Infantry, I notice a lot of Medium suits too. But when it comes to the Infantry game, Mr. Close Range Sentinel and Ms. Sultry Scout are the ones that seem to kill me more.

HOWEVER, this could be just the fact that we are more likely to take note of a Heavy or Scout to kill us than a Medium suit simply because of Confirmation Bias.

I run heavy. I take note of when I am killed by a medium suit. Compared to Shotgun, RE, NK and HMG?

Not often.

However, Forge guns aren't high on my list of deaths. I think I eat maybe five forge shots a week when I'm not in a vehicle.

But usually if I get killed by a medium suit it means that I'm wounded (usually), distracted (trying to kill someone else), or they're one of the ones who know how to use the strafe glitching tricks properly (you thought scouts were the only ones?).

most of the time in straight 1v1's it's HMG sentinels or getting surprise buttsex from a scout.

True. But you still have the (somewhat) legitimate argument of "Well, duh you are only killed by Scouts or Sentinels! Sentinels are the only ones that can both take and do the damage necessary to drop you in close range while Scouts are able to sneak up on you."

Of course, the question that could be raised then is "What the hell is the Assault supposed to counter if Sentinels and Scouts counter Sentinels and Scouts?"

EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.

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Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4833	Posted - 2014.11.10 22:33:00 - [31] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: I actually think there are less Heavies and Scouts than we think in a particular. However, they are getting more kills. When I am playing in either Tank or Infantry, I notice a lot of Medium suits too. But when it comes to the Infantry game, Mr. Close Range Sentinel and Ms. Sultry Scout are the ones that seem to kill me more. HOWEVER, this could be just the fact that we are more likely to take note of a Heavy or Scout to kill us than a Medium suit simply because of Confirmation Bias. I run heavy. I take note of when I am killed by a medium suit. Compared to Shotgun, RE, NK and HMG? Not often. However, Forge guns aren't high on my list of deaths. I think I eat maybe five forge shots a week when I'm not in a vehicle. But usually if I get killed by a medium suit it means that I'm wounded (usually), distracted (trying to kill someone else), or they're one of the ones who know how to use the strafe glitching tricks properly (you thought scouts were the only ones?). most of the time in straight 1v1's it's HMG sentinels or getting surprise buttsex from a scout. True. But you still have the (somewhat) legitimate argument of "Well, duh you are only killed by Scouts or Sentinels! Sentinels are the only ones that can both take and do the damage necessary to drop you in close range while Scouts are able to sneak up on you." Of course, the question that could be raised then is "What the hell is the Assault supposed to counter if Sentinels and Scouts counter Sentinels and Scouts?" Honestly I think I figured out how Rattati can change the HMGs without needing a damn client patch, and scouts need to lose the second equipment slot. they can be assassins, they can be eyes, or they can be frisbee tossing b*tches, but not all three at once. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2068	Posted - 2014.11.10 22:56:00 - [32] - Quote It's not a question of philosophy if there's a right answer. Because you wanted to be something you're not.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4836	Posted - 2014.11.10 22:57:00 - [33] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: It's not a question of philosophy if there's a right answer. It's DUST, unless the answer is "Find another hobby" it's not the right answer. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 271	Posted - 2014.11.10 22:58:00 - [34] - Quote they came at the same time, they were buffed at the same time. 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) `- Open Beta Vet - 31mil sp -` R.I.P Dust 514
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4836	Posted - 2014.11.10 22:59:00 - [35] - Quote PLAYSTTION wrote: they came at the same time, they were buffed at the same time. And now they need to be punched in the nads at the same time EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Mex-0 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 139	Posted - 2014.11.10 23:00:00 - [36] - Quote Gets killed by scout "Scouts OP!" Gets killed by sentinel "Heavies OP!" Gets killed by tank "Tanks OP!" Gets killed "Dust sucks! Everything is OP!" The story of dust haters. I used the bolt pistol before it was (OP) cool.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4836	Posted - 2014.11.10 23:02:00 - [37] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: Gets killed by sentinel "Heavies OP!" in this case, I'm the heavy. It's not as fun without the diversity of feature. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1785	Posted - 2014.11.10 23:05:00 - [38] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Which came first, Sentinel Spam or Scout Spam? Answer..... It doesn't f**king MATTER, both of them are a PROBLEM that need to be FIXED. actually i find scout spam much more frequant and problematic then sentinels.. because sentinels are fat, slow and easy to kill if you know how.. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 243	Posted - 2014.11.10 23:10:00 - [39] - Quote I think that the hmg needs more dispersion and scouts need to be side arm only. This would make sents and scouts limited to short mid range leaving them as the hard counters for each other and give the assaults and commandos the real versatility they were meant to have. Check out the film Flame and Citron it is amazing! Wizard Talk
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 934	Posted - 2014.11.10 23:11:00 - [40] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: If we're going on what we expect... 1 Dedicated Vehicle (HAV or ADS) 2 Dedicated Scouts 2 Dedicated HMG Sents 1 Dedicated FG Sent 3 Dedicated Logis (Two for heavies, one for general stuff) 3 Dedicated Assaults/Commandos But... that's 12 yep 4 Jacks of all Trades +30M SP chars or for Pubs just two more assaults one more logi one more vehicle Then put against the same team comp in skirmish 1.0, renamed vigilance with an elongated battle time and viola, new content! yay killar doing something positive! Give me ammo types or give me burst RRs! Death is irrelevant.

Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1785	Posted - 2014.11.10 23:11:00 - [41] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: Gets killed by scout "Scouts OP!" Gets killed by sentinel "Heavies OP!" Gets killed by tank "Tanks OP!" Gets killed "Dust sucks! Everything is OP!" The story of dust haters. tanks are somewhat balanced atm. heavys are balanced, people are just stupid and like to deepthroat that HMG. ADS on HIGH sp characters with good skill and well fit ADS is godlike and a hellish time to even scratch as 80% resist vs swarms on shields. ADS/DS are still effected by explosions/impacts too much even flaylock sends DS flying AR needs a proficiency change from +shield to +armor to make them more worthwhile in CQB as only 1 of them is somewhat half decent atm. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14392	Posted - 2014.11.10 23:14:00 - [42] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: tanks are somewhat balanced atm. If by balanced you mean lacking in creativity, viable fitting options, racial content, and meta level modules and turrets..... then yes.... balance for HAV is fan-damtastic. "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon
MythTanker Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 232	Posted - 2014.11.11 00:02:00 - [43] - Quote All you bitches need some Quafe... Drink Quafe Fagget -CCP Awox


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