DUST Search - A Proposal for PC.

deezy dabest wrote:

Bring back passive ISK with a big twist.

Districts are only offline for 1 hour at each battle time and come back online after 7 hours of regen time.

Clone production is chopped in half. More clones are produced through corp members warpoint accrual. Something like every X warpoints per player per hour creates a clone. Clone production per district is reduced with every district held. What this means is if you take a bunch of districts without recruiting members you are putting all districts at risk.

All corporations are given passive clone production to their corp hangar which can be moved to any district for an attack whenever it is within a certain amount of clones (150-250??) Clone accrual rate is also based on corp member warpoints over time.

The benefits:

Passive ISK is rewarded based on 2 criteria. Holding your district and playing the game (not just logging in for 1 pc at a time).

Newer corporations are able to recruit and build up clone packs to attack without grinding ISK all day just to toss it.

CEOs are held accountable by their players (who are knowledgeable) as all of the corp members are now contributing to payouts not just the elite 16.

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deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1094	Posted - 2014.11.09 22:57:00 - [1] - Quote Bring back passive ISK with a big twist. Districts are only offline for 1 hour at each battle time and come back online after 7 hours of regen time. Clone production is chopped in half. More clones are produced through corp members warpoint accrual. Something like every X warpoints per player per hour creates a clone. Clone production per district is reduced with every district held. What this means is if you take a bunch of districts without recruiting members you are putting all districts at risk. All corporations are given passive clone production to their corp hangar which can be moved to any district for an attack whenever it is within a certain amount of clones (150-250??) Clone accrual rate is also based on corp member warpoints over time. The benefits: Passive ISK is rewarded based on 2 criteria. Holding your district and playing the game (not just logging in for 1 pc at a time). Newer corporations are able to recruit and build up clone packs to attack without grinding ISK all day just to toss it. CEOs are held accountable by their players (who are knowledgeable) as all of the corp members are now contributing to payouts not just the elite 16.
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game RUST415 374	Posted - 2014.11.09 23:07:00 - [2] - Quote I like the passive isk It never made sense why we didn't get isk from a facility that we fought to own that gives us nothing in return There is a facility literally called production facility. And many other things Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
Immortal John Ripper 25550	Posted - 2014.11.09 23:57:00 - [3] - Quote I could always use a few billion more isk. For every like I receive, a starving minmatar child is denied a taco.
General John Ripper 25558	Posted - 2014.11.09 23:57:00 - [4] - Quote I could always use a few billion more isk. For every like I receive, a starving minmatar child is denied a taco.
Atiim's ISK Pot 60	Posted - 2014.11.09 23:58:00 - [5] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: I could always use a few billion more isk. So could I. "Hello, I like money!" -HAND
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1763	Posted - 2014.11.09 23:58:00 - [6] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Bring back passive ISK with a big twist. Districts are only offline for 1 hour at each battle time and come back online after 7 hours of regen time. Clone production is chopped in half. More clones are produced through corp members warpoint accrual. Something like every X warpoints per player per hour creates a clone. Clone production per district is reduced with every district held. What this means is if you take a bunch of districts without recruiting members you are putting all districts at risk. All corporations are given passive clone production to their corp hangar which can be moved to any district for an attack whenever it is within a certain amount of clones (150-250??) Clone accrual rate is also based on corp member warpoints over time. The benefits: Passive ISK is rewarded based on 2 criteria. Holding your district and playing the game (not just logging in for 1 pc at a time). Newer corporations are able to recruit and build up clone packs to attack without grinding ISK all day just to toss it. CEOs are held accountable by their players (who are knowledgeable) as all of the corp members are now contributing to payouts not just the elite 16. remove all isk from PC for 3 months, when all the protostompers cant afford to run proto all the time like the rest of us THEN reintroduce it but limited to 1 area per corp ownership and twice daily battles.. 12am and 12pm. if they wanna keep their **** they gotta fight and pay [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4497	Posted - 2014.11.09 23:59:00 - [7] - Quote I like it... now all that's left is a particular gallente sympathizer. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4366	Posted - 2014.11.10 01:15:00 - [8] - Quote lol if you think removing PC isk will result in anyone who's good running out of isk (read: anyone who should be in PC) lol passive isk. it was a mistake, there are much better options. B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1098	Posted - 2014.11.10 04:56:00 - [9] - Quote Did a single person here make it past the words bring back passive isk?
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4504	Posted - 2014.11.10 05:03:00 - [10] - Quote Yup, isk is earned from wp and time the district is held... maybe a tl:dr is needed? (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!

Protocake JR USA Caucasians 1570	Posted - 2014.11.10 05:07:00 - [11] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Did a single person here make it past the words bring back passive isk? Reading is not a forum warriors strong suit, unfortunately. This idea sounds pretty good, it seems like it would make it easier to get into PC, while making it difficult for smaller corps to hold tons of districts. Tinkering and balancing passive isk, and putting an emphasis on joining a PC corporation could be a great way of dealing with the low ISK payouts from public battles.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1100	Posted - 2014.11.10 19:35:00 - [12] - Quote Protocake JR wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Did a single person here make it past the words bring back passive isk? Reading is not a forum warriors strong suit, unfortunately. This idea sounds pretty good, it seems like it would make it easier to get into PC, while making it difficult for smaller corps to hold tons of districts. Tinkering and balancing passive isk, and putting an emphasis on joining a PC corporation could be a great way of dealing with the low ISK payouts from public battles. I want to put together a detailed spreadsheet to create a full presentation, I am just having trouble deciding on where I feel like clone generation rates should be. Any ideas there would be appreciated.
Aramis Madrigal Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 310	Posted - 2014.11.10 20:05:00 - [13] - Quote I'd rather see something along the lines of "conquest points" that function a bit like loyalty points for corps. Conquest points could be used to purchase things like corp color dropsuit and vehicles skins, orbital beacons that increase the payouts to those dropping orbitals (giving further incentive to eve pilots and hopefully strengthening the link between games), infrastructure changes, map intel (see the PC map before the match in case you don't know the district), and small corp wide bonuses to isk/sp/salvage accrual in pub matches. This would give PC corps more of a reason to exist and the isk/sp/salvage bonuses would give players more of a reason to stick around for a little bit after PC matches. -Aramis
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4656	Posted - 2014.11.10 20:08:00 - [14] - Quote Basically, starting your fix PC proposal with "bring back passive ISK" made the rest of your pointless. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 13581	Posted - 2014.11.10 20:10:00 - [15] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: lol passive isk. [...] there are much better options. Such as? I'm not saying there aren't other options, but I'm interested to see what you had in mind. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4373	Posted - 2014.11.10 20:13:00 - [16] - Quote Atiim wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: lol passive isk. [...] there are much better options. Such as? I'm not saying there aren't other options, but I'm interested to see what you had in mind. Manufacturing. When you succeed at endgame content in other MMO's do you just get money? B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
Mr Machine Guns 917	Posted - 2014.11.10 20:36:00 - [17] - Quote just make were each district produces items and equipment that both dust and eve players can buy on a market and corps would make isk only when a person buys what their district produces
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 931	Posted - 2014.11.10 21:07:00 - [18] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Atiim wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: lol passive isk. [...] there are much better options. Such as? I'm not saying there aren't other options, but I'm interested to see what you had in mind. Manufacturing. When you succeed at endgame content in other MMO's do you just get money? All of them. They just usually have something else shiny to distract you from it. Give me ammo types or give me burst RRs! Death is irrelevant.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14388	Posted - 2014.11.10 21:09:00 - [19] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: I like the passive isk It never made sense why we didn't get isk from a facility that we fought to own that gives us nothing in return There is a facility literally called production facility. And many other things Passive ISK is a bane that should never have been. Production Facilities should have produced something for sale or use that cut down on ISK costs rather than paid out in the Billions of ISK. "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 931	Posted - 2014.11.10 21:18:00 - [20] - Quote True Adamance wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: I like the passive isk It never made sense why we didn't get isk from a facility that we fought to own that gives us nothing in return There is a facility literally called production facility. And many other things Passive ISK is a bane that should never have been. Production Facilities should have produced something for sale or use that cut down on ISK costs rather than paid out in the Billions of ISK. The only reason passive isk was bad is because there was no force projection limiter, no scaling upkeep costs, terrible match performance issuses that discouraged use and a super easy meta game. We got passive income because it was easy to code. Which is also why we dont have any other system except an isk-centric one. PC will always be broken unless they devotedevote the legion team to fix it. Passive isk wasnt bad, a horseshit scattered vodka soaked idea of unregulating it was. Give me ammo types or give me burst RRs! Death is irrelevant.

deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1101	Posted - 2014.11.10 21:38:00 - [21] - Quote Preliminary Formula for clone generation (( .05 / (Districts + 1)) * (1.5 + District Bonus) = Multiplier (Member + Warpoints) / Members * Multiplier = Clones Generated All Clones generated are placed in the corp hangar which also generates 5 clones per day base. Clones can not be sold from the corp hangar they must be moved to a district owned by the corporation. The corp hangar only holds 300 clones (meaning it is important to have a cargo hub if you are generating a lot of clones). The minimum number of clones that must be moved to a district for an attack is 100 and the maximum is 250. Any number of clones can be moved to a corporation district. Clone packs can be purchased to reinforce a district or launch an attack at a price of 100 million for 100 clones. These can only be applied to one district and can not be purchased in the corp hangar to distribute to multiple districts. Any addition to clones must be done during the reinforcement window (which stays as it is) Clones can not be removed from a district while under attack. Each District type receives a bonus which is then added up and used in the multiplier. My current ideas on districts Cargo Hub 500 Clones held 0 clones produced per day 0 district bonus Production Facility 300 clones held 25 clones produced per day (stored in the district clone vat) 0 district bonus Research Lab 250 clones held 0 clones produced per day .5 district bonus


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