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Vesta Opalus Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 171	Posted - 2014.11.10 20:21:00 - [1] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: i can stand infront of a Sentinel and win This is bullshit, it is mathematically impossible to take on a heavy head to head inside their optimal with an assault assuming equal skill and execution. KING CHECKMATE wrote: i cannot get 1HKOd by snipers. Yes, you can. KING CHECKMATE wrote: Im not afraid of scouts because if i see them they will die, regardless of their fit. So you can kill the bad scouts who allow you to see them, congratulations. KING CHECKMATE wrote: Yeah even Ck.0 scouts drop like flies vs my Gk.0 AR's.. So overall, the only thing i will admit Med frame whiners have correct is: The Ck.0 Scout hitbox is defective. 85 Shots out of my ACR and i only too down 50 Shields? BROOOKEEEENNN... but besides this i really dont see what all the fuzz is about./ You seem to think the ck.0 scout is the best one, the best scout is actually the gk.0. "even Gk.0 scouts drop like flies" etc, etc. The ck.0 scout hitbox is not defective, all scouts are equally hard to hit and equally able to abuse the hell out of strafing and sketchy hit detection to completely avoid being hit. This can also be abused by assaults, logis, and even heavy suits depending on how bad lag/fps is in your specific game. KING CHECKMATE wrote: Want to play good as an assault? just do the opposite as a scout: - SCOUT: Flank enemy groups/Stalk slow units. -ASSAULT: Stick together with your blue dots / Position yourself to abuse the range of your weapons. Even as a solo player, if i stick to 1 or 2 other blue dots, the power of my suit multiplies. Its the CONTRARY to scout suits, that i prefer being alone so that enemies wont come MY way because tehy are seeing a friendly blue on their tac net. MEd frames are not UP. Nerf hammer + Community QQers = are OP. You seem to think you cant flank or stalk as an assault, and seem to think abusing the hell out of weapon ranges isnt exactly what the scout suit is for. Also the idea that scouts arent better in swarms or in a group is laughable. The second you add some sort of distraction (whether its another scout or any other suit) the scouts ability to abuse dampening and cloaks goes straight through the roof and into orbit. I do agree with you about one thing though, the assault and logi frames are not underpowered. The problem isnt with those suits. Its with the scout. The scout is overpowered.
Vesta Opalus Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 171	Posted - 2014.11.10 20:41:00 - [2] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: @ Vesta Opalus: ahha you have balls coming at me like im a noob XD. Lets argue then. me-'i can stand infront of a Sentinel and win'' you-''This is bullshit, it is mathematically impossible to take on a heavy head to head inside their optimal with an assault assuming equal skill and execution. '' HAAH matematically? maybe, but im talking about using skill. Skill outmatches maths when it comes to a game. my 900 EHP minmatar suit that runs at 7.7 can easily make 85 ACR holes on a sentinels face while strafing so fast at CQ that he can barely scratch me. Again, if you cant win with an assault you are doing it WRONG. Did you miss the part where I specifically said "assuming equal skill and execution"? KING CHECKMATE wrote: me-''i cannot get 1HKOd by snipers.'' you-''Yes, you can.'' True. i can, but not consistently and it needs to be a head shot. So what? You can still get 1 hit killed by snipers. Not that this even matters because sniping sucks and is virtually useless in this game. KING CHECKMATE wrote: me-''Im not afraid of scouts because if i see them they will die, regardless of their fit. '' you-''So you can kill the bad scouts who allow you to see them, congratulations.'' HAHA BAD scouts? you talk as if its possible to be a scout and NEVER be seen. So you know, 99% of the GOOD scouts are so agressive they prefer using the cloak to get close than to just hide...but then again im not here to criticize you play style XD I dont use the cloak, so regardless of what you say about how you use the cloak its not a comment about my play style. It is very possible to be a scout and stay out of the sightlines of the vast majority of the enemies for the vast majority of your play time. In fact its pretty trivial until you start getting into serious teamwork territory. And Im not just talking hiding in a corner, Im talking real scooty puff jr. running around dumping on people from behind game play. KING CHECKMATE wrote: Me-''So overall, the only thing i will admit Med frame whiners have correct is: The Ck.0 Scout hitbox is defective. 85 Shots out of my ACR and i only too down 50 Shields? BROOOKEEEENNN... but besides this i really dont see what all the fuzz is about./'' you''You seem to think the ck.0 scout is the best one, the best scout is actually the gk.0. "even Gk.0 scouts drop like flies" etc, etc. The ck.0 scout hitbox is not defective, all scouts are equally hard to hit and equally able to abuse the hell out of strafing and sketchy hit detection to completely avoid being hit. This can also be abused by assaults, logis, and even heavy suits depending on how bad lag/fps is in your specific game.'' No i dont think the Ck.0 is the best one. Its just the only one that is broken. If you stand by this suit saying its not defective then im though talking to you. You're through talking to me? Oh no, please don't throw me into the briar patch, that would be horrible.
Vesta Opalus Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 172	Posted - 2014.11.10 21:51:00 - [3] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Scouts need to lose the second equipment slot. You should be able to cloak or RE me but not both. They need some drawback there is no role they can't fill, I haven't used my logi since scouts were buffed, there is no point, you're just going to lose an expensive suit to a shotgun in the back. Besides that I can just use a scout suit to use nearly as much equipment as I could on a logi anyway. I really dont understand you guys who use scout as a logi. As a minmatar logi I have a big rep tool bonus, 2 additional equipment slots, and much better hp, whats the advantage you are seeing when you run a scout logi? Sure if youre just spamming out uplinks and you dont care about the spawn timer bonus from Amarr and dont care about having 2/3rds to half the uplinks per suit... Or if you are dropping nanohives and dont care about caldari logi bonus or again having 2-5 additional hives... Or if you are repping a squad of heavies and dont care about having nanohives/injectors/scanner on hand to help as needed... The only situations where I can see scout being even close to as good is either dropping initial uplinks after running from starting spawns, or just running around as a free agent doing incidental support, which I would argue is not exactly what the logi is supposed to be doing. So whats the attraction of these people running scout logis, because I cant stand doing it? I miss my equipment slots every single time. If scout logis can replace actual logis why doesnt this actually happen in Planetary Conquest?
Vesta Opalus Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 172	Posted - 2014.11.10 22:14:00 - [4] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Vesta Opalus wrote: blabla , bla ba Look! is the dude that think Ck.0 scouts dont have the hit detection broken. Yes, yes, its a popular meme on the forums to claim that their hit detection is broken in some way. If its so broken, make a video contrasting Cal scout hitbox with other scouts hitboxes, put it on youtube, and prove it. Put up or shut up. I want scouts being able to bullettime their way through hmg storms to be fixed too, but I want it fixed for all scouts, all assaults, all suits. Its not just unique to the calscout, and all these people making claims that there is something specifically broken about the calscout hitbox are just missing the real issue that is fundamental to the game: people can exploit strafing to magically avoid damage and walk through hails of bullets. So until someone provides some actual reproducable proof, this calscout hitbox junk will be just exactly what it is, a bunch of uninformed or mistaken people spouting bullshit.
Vesta Opalus Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 172	Posted - 2014.11.11 14:45:00 - [5] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Vesta Opalus wrote: bla blabal , blabal. Hey look! is the dude that CANT kill a Sentinel 1 on 1 with an Assault suit! XD okok. Troll apart. Bro, just stop it. You are talking to a dude that has Main scouts for a VERY LONG TIME and used to use the Ck.0 a lot. Lately (before the assault experience) as my main suit too. Dont try to defend it. You are making a fool of yourself.. You say you cant kill a sentinel with an assault suit if they both have the same skill llevel? IVE SEEN C/1 Series Scouts survive infront of heavies and kill the heavy with a Toxin AR. This is at 20 or less meters. The Sentinel being a proto old school player. nonono...bro...just STOP. Yeah? Well Ive done that in a minmatar quafe assault, whats your point? Strafing is broken. Cal Scout is not (at least not in the hitbox department).

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