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Vell0cet
Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.09 20:48:00 -
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I logged in today to see my available SP was over 100,000 negative. I'm not sure if this is the result of an error, or if they made an error and this was the correction. I filed a ticket, but it's too soon to have heard anything. Anyone else experience this?
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.11.09 20:53:00 -
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The last time this happened, it was an error on CCPs part of giving a skill too low an SP cost, and adjusting it after.
Instead of taking away the skill entirely, they sort of gave people the skill on loan.
My guess is that is what happened here, although I am curious if anyone else is having this issue as I think if the above were the case others would be in a similar boat.
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Vell0cet
Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.09 21:23:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:The last time this happened, it was an error on CCPs part of giving a skill too low an SP cost, and adjusting it after.
Instead of taking away the skill entirely, they sort of gave people the skill on loan.
My guess is that is what happened here, although I am curious if anyone else is having this issue as I think if the above were the case others would be in a similar boat. I don't think it was a skill, since the only things I've bought recently was Amarr Scout 5, and Active Scanners 2 & 3. I'm pretty sure nothing's changed with the SP cost of these. I'm wondering if it was an error in the SP sidearm payout that got corrected? Or maybe in the code for triple stacking boosters?
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TrueGreen420
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Posted - 2014.11.10 07:07:00 -
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i had a problem with losing passive sp after replacing a booster that ran out, as soon as i activated the new one about 80000 sp vanished, this also happened on my alt. i lost about 70000 on that one. i was wondering if this has happened to anyone else? |
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Vell0cet
Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.10 07:18:00 -
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kenirk darafaduh wrote:i had a problem with losing passive sp after replacing a booster that ran out, as soon as i activated the new one about 80000 sp vanished, this also happened on my alt. i lost about 70000 on that one. i was wondering if this has happened to anyone else and how do i possibly get the points back? Yeah, I replaced one of my expired boosters today too. That can't be a coincidence.
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TrueGreen420
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Posted - 2014.11.10 07:23:00 -
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yeah i think it has to do with the triple stacking of boosters i hope there is a way to get the points back |
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TrueGreen420
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Posted - 2014.11.10 07:29:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:I logged in today to see my available SP was over 100,000 negative. I'm not sure if this is the result of an error, or if they made an error and this was the correction. I filed a ticket, but it's too soon to have heard anything. Anyone else experience this? how do you file a ticket?
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Vell0cet
Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.10 08:21:00 -
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kenirk darafaduh wrote:Vell0cet wrote:I logged in today to see my available SP was over 100,000 negative. I'm not sure if this is the result of an error, or if they made an error and this was the correction. I filed a ticket, but it's too soon to have heard anything. Anyone else experience this? how do you file a ticket? Go here and click submit a ticket.
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Unit-775
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.11 19:35:00 -
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i can confirm this problem:
Yesterday i had 167k unallocated skillpoints and 3 stacked boosters running, wich one was running out in a few hours. Today i have 126k unallocated
Updates on my char screens shows.
Passive skillpoints -57k Daily activity bonus +6k unallocated skillpoints 126k
second time this happend so i noted the SP i had yesterday to check it.
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Vell0cet
Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.11 20:17:00 -
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I had an update from GM Scotsman saying he forwarded it on to the Dev team and they're looking into it. Hopefully they'll sort it out soon.
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The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.11.11 21:23:00 -
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today one of my chars experienced a -89 000 SP minus on updates.
It had 24hrs earlier 1800k something unallocated. Today after downtime it had 1 774 705.
I have a pic to prove noth the latter and the negative.
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Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.12 06:40:00 -
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The same thing happened to me today, I logged on to my skill points at negative 220,000. I filed a ticket and got back an automated response that they would be trying to address the issue. I ended up having to do a sp respec because it was taking forever to improve my character.
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Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.11.13 01:40:00 -
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This happened to me last Saturday. Not only did I lose SP when my omega ran out, the approx 140 days of stacked time behind it didn't show up.
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.11.13 04:58:00 -
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I too have experienced this bug, having my unallocated sp drop from 600,000 to around 300,000. This also coincided with one of my boosters expiring.
I have submitted a ticket, and am awaiting a response. Help us CCP!
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2014.11.13 23:40:00 -
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This is an old bug associated with boosters. Have you tried relogging into the game? That use to fix it, but I'm not sure if that workaround is still effective after all these changes.
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
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Posted - 2014.11.13 23:53:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:This is an old bug associated with boosters. Have you tried relogging into the game? That use to fix it, but I'm not sure if that workaround is still effective after all these changes.
Sadly no. That's the first thing I did, and no luck.
Scotsman says they are aware of the problem, and trying to fix it. Didn't sound like they were too close though ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png)
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Posted - 2014.11.14 06:01:00 -
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I just logged in on this account after not logging in for a day and I went from like 150000 to 8000 and this isn't first time its happened i lost about 60000 almost a week ago. |
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G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.18 23:55:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:I logged in today to see my available SP was over 100,000 negative. I'm not sure if this is the result of an error, or if they made an error and this was the correction. I filed a ticket, but it's too soon to have heard anything. Anyone else experience this? Yes negitive 190000
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DRE PrEaCh
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.22 14:57:00 -
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The only thing I can think of isssssssss LAST WEEK when I was trying to CAP 750k SP in two days, FIRST DAY I brought it down to 320K then when I logged in the NEXT DAY, my remaining SP was 440K.
This happened to alot of people, so maybe they're taking back the EXTRA SP that people got from last week.
I noticed this hasn't happend THIS WEEK. Bug fixed on their end |
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DRE PrEaCh
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.22 14:58:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:I too have experienced this bug, having my unallocated sp drop from 600,000 to around 300,000. This also coincided with one of my boosters expiring.
I have submitted a ticket, and am awaiting a response. Help us CCP!
That is my case as well, one of my boosters expired, I had passive's triple stacked |
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.11.23 07:57:00 -
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My ticket was closed and no SP returned ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png)
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Vell0cet
Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.23 08:03:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:My ticket was closed and no SP returned ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png) Mine too. Mine was automatic, so I think it's an error. I opened a new ticket, referencing the old ticket number as being closed in error. Hopefully they'll get this sorted out.
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Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.23 12:20:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:My ticket was closed and no SP returned ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png)
Thats what you get from stalking me every night. I told ya. ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) |
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Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.24 03:13:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:I logged in today to see my available SP was over 100,000 negative. I'm not sure if this is the result of an error, or if they made an error and this was the correction. I filed a ticket, but it's too soon to have heard anything. Anyone else experience this? It happened to me. I think when the booster ran out it took away the sp. I lost 400,000 sp. |
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2boq
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.24 12:43:00 -
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I have the same problem. After passive booster runs out the SP counter turned into negative.
I have created a ticket about that with a photo of the negative SP status. No reply so far. |
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2boq
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.25 08:08:00 -
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Today I got answer that CCP is aware about such accounts and working on a solution. |
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.11.26 06:20:00 -
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derbasti87 wrote:Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:My ticket was closed and no SP returned ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png) Thats what you get from stalking me every night. I told ya. ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png)
I think we need to reevaluate who is stalking who ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png)
But seriously, I wants my SP!
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Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.26 10:35:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:derbasti87 wrote:Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:My ticket was closed and no SP returned ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png) Thats what you get from stalking me every night. I told ya. ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) I think we need to reevaluate who is stalking who ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) But seriously, I wants my SP!
I want mine as well. Missing 500k myself. It seems it has to do with the running out passive boosters. That being said, i got two more running out in 8days. I think i have to prepair to lose even more SP... |
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Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.27 19:37:00 -
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I lost over 500k and it happened when a passive omega booster ran out and I activated a regular passive booster in its place. On the bright side of things, I finally got my sidearm challenge sp :D |
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2boq
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.28 08:18:00 -
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My ticket is still open and I didn't have my SPs back until now.
Yes. I was using a passive booster too and when it runs out the SPs are gone but the new skills seem to stay at least.
Does anybody have tried a SP reset in such a situation? Maybe the SPs will be refunded in case a reset is done?
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BASTARDS OF BEDLAM
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Posted - 2014.11.28 22:23:00 -
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SameGǪa passive booster ran out during a match and I was docked the SP i earned in the match rather than awarded. Relogged immediately and approx half the negative SP was removed, but still in the red. Ticket submitted.
I had just spent all my SP before the match so was almost at zeroGǪlooked like a perfect swap, negative for positive earned in the match. |
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THE DESOLATION OF EDEN
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Posted - 2014.11.29 00:21:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:I logged in today to see my available SP was over 100,000 negative. I'm not sure if this is the result of an error, or if they made an error and this was the correction. I filed a ticket, but it's too soon to have heard anything. Anyone else experience this? I had this exact same problem except I was -160,000 SP
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Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.29 01:19:00 -
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CCP you better fix this problem before more and more and more people get the same problem!!! |
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Posted - 2014.11.29 09:25:00 -
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Was almost at 300.000 and when I got on this morning it was all negative. Had me some plans for that to ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png) |
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GM Archduke
Game Masters C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.01 13:52:00 -
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Hey guys!
We aim to deploy a fix to restore all characters to their correct lifetime SP, and eliminate this negative SP thing. Unfortunately we do not yet have a time-frame for this, but we will try to fix this as soon as possible. As it is rather difficult to go into the details of how and why this happened and how it can be fixed without going into fields that I am not qualified to talk about, or revealing formulas that should not be revealed, please just try to trust Uncle Archduke on this one.
Pro tip - as pointed out by one of our players - switching the passive gain off and back on is a possible workaround for at least stopping the unallocated points from counting down.
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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derbasti87
Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.12.01 20:09:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Hey guys!
We aim to deploy a fix to restore all characters to their correct lifetime SP, and eliminate this negative SP thing. Unfortunately we do not yet have a time-frame for this, but we will try to fix this as soon as possible. As it is rather difficult to go into the details of how and why this happened and how it can be fixed without going into fields that I am not qualified to talk about, or revealing formulas that should not be revealed, please just try to trust Uncle Archduke on this one.
Pro tip - as pointed out by one of our players - switching the passive gain off and back on is a possible workaround for at least stopping the unallocated points from counting down.
Finally an answer after 22days of this thread. ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) |
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Vell0cet
Vengeance Unbound
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Posted - 2014.12.01 21:06:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Hey guys!
We aim to deploy a fix to restore all characters to their correct lifetime SP, and eliminate this negative SP thing. Unfortunately we do not yet have a time-frame for this, but we will try to fix this as soon as possible. As it is rather difficult to go into the details of how and why this happened and how it can be fixed without going into fields that I am not qualified to talk about, or revealing formulas that should not be revealed, please just try to trust Uncle Archduke on this one.
Pro tip - as pointed out by one of our players - switching the passive gain off and back on is a possible workaround for at least stopping the unallocated points from counting down. I realize you can't go into the technical details, but is this triggered by boosters expiring? Is it limited to passive boosters? As for the workaround, does this permanently prevent this from happening again (obviously we have to wait on the fix to restore any missing SP)? Or do you have to keep repeating this for every new booster you add? I'm just a bit confused about how the workaround works.
Thanks for the response and for working to resolve the issue. o7
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.12.02 01:59:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Hey guys!
We aim to deploy a fix to restore all characters to their correct lifetime SP, and eliminate this negative SP thing. Unfortunately we do not yet have a time-frame for this, but we will try to fix this as soon as possible. As it is rather difficult to go into the details of how and why this happened and how it can be fixed without going into fields that I am not qualified to talk about, or revealing formulas that should not be revealed, please just try to trust Uncle Archduke on this one.
Pro tip - as pointed out by one of our players - switching the passive gain off and back on is a possible workaround for at least stopping the unallocated points from counting down.
Thanks for giving us this information. I trust you, uncle ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
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Regis Blackbird
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.12.02 18:57:00 -
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This happened to me as well when a passive booster expired. Should I sent a ticket, or do you have everything in hand? |
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jane stalin
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.04 05:23:00 -
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I have the same problem I triple stack passive boosters and when replaced one I lost 6000,000 SP
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jane stalin
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.04 05:25:00 -
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Same thing with me , triple stack boosters I replaced one recently
I lost 600,000 SP
According to the Bible I need to be paid back seven fold So if CCP does not give me 4,200,000 SP then god will get angry. |
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.12.04 21:50:00 -
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I have now lost even more SP, with my passive boosters expiring today. I now have -915,470 SP.
I am filing another ticket as of this post, and I'm very disappointed ![What?](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_question.png)
Playing for Gallente is like killing kittens. There's no honor in it.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1558
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Posted - 2014.12.04 23:51:00 -
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One of my alts JUST got -812 272 SP
And I most definately confirm that it is NOT just a visual 'passive skill point update' bug. Total skillpoints went from (eve time 13:18) total 60 617 000 unallocated 2 587 200 SP
to (eve time 23:43) total 60 082 283 unallocated 2 0552 481 SP
That unallocated change proves that the loss is real. Earlier today I could've used 2,5M SP for stuff. Now I can use only 2,0M SP.
EDIT: And yes, I know numbers don't quite add up. But that's not my fault, it's just what the numbers are.
EDIT2: Login screen now 5mins later give that char 59 805 057 SP - going down?!?
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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Vell0cet
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
2641
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Posted - 2014.12.05 00:11:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:I have now lost even more SP, with my passive boosters expiring today. I now have -915,470 SP. I am filing another ticket as of this post, and I'm very disappointed ![What?](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_question.png) I'm pretty sure CCP knows this is an urgent problem. Getting the fix right is probably delicate, as it could easily result in screwing up everyone's SP by insane amounts if done incorrectly. Maybe this will come in 1.10.
Best PvE idea ever!
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Hector Carson
THE DESOLATION OF EDEN
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Posted - 2014.12.05 06:18:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Hey guys!
We aim to deploy a fix to restore all characters to their correct lifetime SP, and eliminate this negative SP thing. Unfortunately we do not yet have a time-frame for this, but we will try to fix this as soon as possible. As it is rather difficult to go into the details of how and why this happened and how it can be fixed without going into fields that I am not qualified to talk about, or revealing formulas that should not be revealed, please just try to trust Uncle Archduke on this one.
Pro tip - as pointed out by one of our players - switching the passive gain off and back on is a possible workaround for at least stopping the unallocated points from counting down. eh I'm not worried about it anymore just dying in waiting for the new update ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png)
My Corp fights for whoever has money, Primarily PC battles
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Spankdamonke
ScReWeD uP InC
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Posted - 2014.12.05 10:56:00 -
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Eh....me too now. Down just over 612k SP ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png)
I was hoping to extend the boosters to mitigate the situation at least temporarily, but hadn't realized that it is no longer possible when all slots are full ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png)
Thank God I happened across this thread and spent all my un-allocated SP at the last minute.
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lance venom
The-Devil's-Rejects
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Posted - 2014.12.05 12:47:00 -
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There is a bug with the passive boosers when my triple stacked boosters ran out this is what I saw when I loged off and back on when I was negative 650k pasive sp while running trip pass for part of the day and actovating 2 new pasives so about 100k was added that day and minus 650 for the day is about 750k sp taken away. (Will update with picture as soon as I find out how.) |
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2boq
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.05 14:53:00 -
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I also lost another 500k SP again yesterday. That sucks on so many levels.
Tip : Use your unallocated SPs to by skills before a booster runs out. At least the skill stays (yet)![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png)
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olssam 62
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2014.12.06 13:07:00 -
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any news ccp ?
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bane sieg
Damaged Beyond Repair
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Posted - 2014.12.06 22:41:00 -
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Yep it got me too. Logged in and I was over 300k in the hole. Filed a ticket and will be waiting for the fix.
CEO Damaged Beyond Repair
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:19:00 -
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And the same on this character. Loss of 800k SP or so.
Have pics of ALL the steps how it progressed.
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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Vell0cet
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:44:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:And the same on this character. Loss of 800k SP or so.
Have pics of ALL the steps how it progressed. So I guess 1.10 didn't solve this bug. That sucks.
Best PvE idea ever!
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BrotherofHavok
PIanet Express Smart Deploy
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Posted - 2014.12.09 23:33:00 -
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Tried the passive sp on/off trick, did not work. Have lost around 1 mil SP (not too sure, kind of didn't check up too often. Just knew something was wrong when I had enough to get a new proto suit but then didn't.
Sincerely,
Your Multi-purpose Everything User
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.12.10 16:17:00 -
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This bug makes me sad :( But its helped me save money. Buying more boosters no longer is as tempting after losing over 800k sp lol
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olssam 62
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2014.12.10 23:57:00 -
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any news ccp ?
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
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Posted - 2014.12.11 15:24:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/0Wr20Ep.jpg
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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Drago Kamarov
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.12.12 01:29:00 -
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Coinciding with the expiration of 2 passive boosters, I also lost approximately 520k SP.
I have attempted to open a ticket several times, however I have not received confirmation that the ticket was accepted either through the website, or through email, and my support ticket page shows no record of any open tickets.
*Edit: Apparently the support ticket system is incompatible with Firefox(?), I was able to open a ticket in Internet Explorer. |
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
1048
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Posted - 2014.12.12 05:17:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Hey guys!
We aim to deploy a fix to restore all characters to their correct lifetime SP, and eliminate this negative SP thing. Unfortunately we do not yet have a time-frame for this, but we will try to fix this as soon as possible. As it is rather difficult to go into the details of how and why this happened and how it can be fixed without going into fields that I am not qualified to talk about, or revealing formulas that should not be revealed, please just try to trust Uncle Archduke on this one.
Pro tip - as pointed out by one of our players - switching the passive gain off and back on is a possible workaround for at least stopping the unallocated points from counting down.
So, this bug is telling us that the "Secret Coding" is linked to the allocation of the SP triggers. The approximate "How and Why" is not that secret really, anyone who sees this error can figure it out for themselves... There are two approximations currently available.
-What we can infer is that the booster could be a modifier against a "True Maximum" of SP that can be earned, and when the booster turns off, it reduces the "New Maximum". When improperly coded to check the state of other boosters, this can reduce again, and cause deletion of SP. Hence multiple Boosters have multiple triggers.... so when one deactivates it counts all of the boosters, even if they were not set to expire, leaving you in a negative position from where you were supposed to end. As in 3 boosters on, one expires, subtracts 3 worth of passive/active pool, then the next one expires... removes 2 worth of pool, then last one, reducing 1 worth. Total of 3 up 6 down. Result --Negative active and/or passive gains.
-Alternatively, a simpler answer might be it's just terminating the SP earned through the boosters that triggered prematurely, and counting the passive alongside of this.
Hence by forcing a server recheck of what boosters are actually supposed to be calculated... such as turning Passive gains off then on again... You fix the negative passives half of the bug.
The purpose of such a system is to Hard Cap any potential gains etc... Very strange execution I'd say.
That doesn't sound like much of a "Secret" but whatever. :/
This kind of thing happens all the time. Game sound playing continuously? Server's failure (such as that eternal beeping for the EXP bar, same thing) because it doesn't have checks in place. In order to fix the error, you have to push the file, (the specific sound effect in this example) so that it triggers again, and the checks run down to fix the erroneous termination.
Such a system that surrounds EXP boosters should just be a simple modifier fitted with Static Variables to indicate the booster type... An Additive system does not encounter these bizarre errors... If the system was simplistic, errors like this would be far less of an issue, and faster to fix. Apparently someone likes to Obfuscate their code, and things like this are the natural result. (especially if there is poor documentation alongside the code, then it's just like wading through a mire as you have to practically reconstruct the entire code just to understand what it does.)
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Clone D
Grundstein Automation
1053
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Posted - 2014.12.12 12:45:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Pro tip - as pointed out by one of our players - switching the passive gain off and back on is a possible workaround for at least stopping the unallocated points from counting down.
This fix did not work for me. Do I need to submit a trouble ticket or will I be included under the CCP blanket solution.
ISK Trader
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
1048
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Posted - 2014.12.13 13:43:00 -
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Clone D wrote:GM Archduke wrote:Pro tip - as pointed out by one of our players - switching the passive gain off and back on is a possible workaround for at least stopping the unallocated points from counting down. This fix did not work for me. Do I need to submit a trouble ticket or will I be included under the CCP blanket solution.
If it's just your SP hasn't come back, no. This was only a fix for the direction the passive SP was ticking. If your SP is slowly ticking upward with the Passive on. then the sub-issue has been fixed. The core issue has not been addressed yet to my knowledge. If your Passive SP earning is still ticking in the negative direction, a new ticket might be prudent, but they are probably addressing that as well already.
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION
1066
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Posted - 2014.12.14 16:40:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Clone D wrote:GM Archduke wrote:Pro tip - as pointed out by one of our players - switching the passive gain off and back on is a possible workaround for at least stopping the unallocated points from counting down. This fix did not work for me. Do I need to submit a trouble ticket or will I be included under the CCP blanket solution. If it's just your SP hasn't come back, no. This was only a fix for the direction the passive SP was ticking. If your SP is slowly ticking upward with the Passive on. then the sub-issue has been fixed. The core issue has not been addressed yet to my knowledge. If your Passive SP earning is still ticking in the negative direction, a new ticket might be prudent, but they are probably addressing that as well already.
Still not resolved as far as I'm aware. The ticket I had open with them just closed automatically due to 'inactivity'. I guess keep trying to bump your own ticket if you want it to remain open. I hope this gets resolved soon...
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.12.15 07:06:00 -
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I just got hit by this bug as well...I was incredible surprised by this. Sorry to see so many folks have been hit by this but it does seem that CCP is well aware of it.
I'll be putting injured a ticket on this ASAP.
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION
1066
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Posted - 2014.12.17 23:35:00 -
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This is starting to feel like one of those 'if we dont' talk about it, maybe they'll forget' bugs...
Knights of Ender Director
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hfderrtgvcd
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Posted - 2014.12.18 00:26:00 -
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lee corwood wrote:This is starting to feel like one of those 'if we dont' talk about it, maybe they'll forget' bugs... there was a dev post saying they fixed it
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Vell0cet
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.12.18 00:32:00 -
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Yes. See this post.
Best PvE idea ever!
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derbasti87
Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.12.18 12:39:00 -
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I finally got my SP back. ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) |
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION
1066
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:40:00 -
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Happy Dance!![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
Knights of Ender Director
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Vell0cet
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:46:00 -
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Got mine as well. Thanks CCP!
Best PvE idea ever!
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jane stalin
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.18 18:10:00 -
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![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) Thanks for fixing the bug |
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