DUST Search - What is with the ISK situation?

Mad Kras wrote:

Summa Militum wrote:

Mad Kras wrote:

I really don't know man, i have the impression that the isk payouts are slightly higher now, maybe is cuz of my rank (7th <3) but after i've done the respec i run a usually run an std galmando with an adv AR,PLC, 1 adv armour plate and 1 proto amour rep and it costs me around 47k if i'm not wrong, so i must rely just on kills and av to get warpoints and even if i'm on the losing side I can still earn some isk even if i die like 5-6 times(that won't probably happen but let's consider that scenario :P), if you play solo in a pub match with a proto you have to consider the possibility that you'll probably lose money.I really don't understand your issue with the payouts.I don't mean to offend anybody that's just my point of view.

I have an Advanced Gallente Assault Medium Dropsuit fitting that is pretty cheap (about 44,000 ISK) that I use when I am trying to save up money so I can restock my Prototype Gallente Assault Medium Dropsuits but my Prototype Dropsuit fittings run me about 100,000 to 140,000 ISK (used to cost me as much as 180,000 ISK).

With the current ISK payout I am not earning much, if anything at all, with most of the matches I play now since 1.9 was released.

I think players, like me, who storm into battle to break down what ever stronghold the enemy has established should be rewarded for the risks they take in doing that.

As for my impression on this ISK payout I would say for me I am positive my payout amount has dropped. Right now this is probably the longest I have ever gone without earning an ISK amount in the 300,000 range.

You mention that one should expect to lose ISK when playing public matches using a Proto suit and I have seen other people say the same thing. I have not played any matches besides Public Contracts so I don't have any basis for comparison. Are there more crappy players in the Factional Contracts or something?

The proto suit should be used just for PC or if you'r in a good squad of protospompers and you know that somebody will eventually pick you up. My advice is that you invest some SP in the Core skills so that you can fit all your stuff on a basic suit (trust me it makes the difference).You should also reconsider charging into a sea of redberries expecially if yoo know that it'll cost you that much. Big smile


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Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 11	Posted - 2014.11.09 19:40:00 - [1] - Quote Ever since 1.9 dropped the amount of ISK I earn in a match has dramatically dropped. I can win a match, place within the top 3 on the leaderboard with a high KDR and over 2000 WP and for some reason I can't earn an ISK amount that exceeds the 230,000 range. Before 1.9 I could expect 320,000 to 390,000 on the matches I kick ass in. On the matches I do mediocre in I could expect around 220,000 to 280,000. The current ISK payout amount is ridiculous and needs to be fixed. I have an idea that I think would be nice. I would like it where if you lose a match you can get 10% of the ISK you spent in that match back on top of whatever the current ISK amount is you are earning simply for participating. If you win the match it would be nice if you could get back 50% of the total ISK amount you spent in the match. I would also like it if there were an ISK bonus for those who play a full match without dieing (ISK amount relative to your KDR; going 0/0 should get you nothing, but going 10/0 should get you a bonus). I would also like it if there were an ISK bonus for every thousand WPs you earn in a match. What do you people think?
Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 11	Posted - 2014.11.09 19:55:00 - [2] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: bonus for zero deaths just encourages more risk aversion and sniper nesting. I thought about that but I am requesting it anyways to benefit people like me. I constantly charge in to battle and take massive risks and I will quite often go a match (usually an Ambush match) where I will get a high KDR and no deaths but I will get rewarded just as much or less as a Logi who follows around 2 Heavies with HMGs healing them; the Logi essentially takes no risk at all in the match when all they do is stand behind a Heavy the entire battle. Now I don't want to shut off the Logi completely and that is why I suggest an ISK bonus as well for every 1000 WPs you earn in a match. This will give Logis who only play medic a bonus for doing their job.
Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 11	Posted - 2014.11.09 20:02:00 - [3] - Quote Joel II X wrote: I have less than half a million in my wallet at all times. Chances are, if I die more than 5 times, I go negative. #Poor #HardMode #PurpleBlingAin'tACrime (thanks Ripley) At the current ISK payrate if I play with my Proto Suits and I lose the match I immediately go negative if I die once; if I win the match I won't go negative until I die twice. Using my Adv Suits I can die 2 or 3 times on a match I lose before I go negative and I would have to die about 5 or 6 times to go negative on a match I win.
Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 15	Posted - 2014.11.09 21:54:00 - [4] - Quote Mad Kras wrote: I really don't know man, i have the impression that the isk payouts are slightly higher now, maybe is cuz of my rank (7th <3) but after i've done the respec i run a usually run an std galmando adv AR,PLC, 1 adv armour plate and 1 proto amour rep and it costs me around 47k if i'm not wrong, so i must rely just on kills and av to get warpoints and if i'm on the winning side I can still earn some isk even if i die like 5-6 times, if you play solo in a pub match with a proto you have to consider the possibility that you'll probably lose money.I really don't understand your issue with the payouts.I don't mean to offend anybody that's just my point of view. I have an Advanced Gallente Assault Medium Dropsuit fitting that is pretty cheap (about 44,000 ISK) that I use when I am trying to save up money so I can restock my Prototype Gallente Assault Medium Dropsuits but my Prototype Dropsuit fittings run me about 100,000 to 140,000 ISK (used to cost me as much as 180,000 ISK). With the current ISK payout I am not earning much, if anything at all, with most of the matches I play now since 1.9 was released. I think players, like me, who storm into battle to break down what ever stronghold the enemy has established should be rewarded for the risks they take in doing that. As for my impression on this ISK payout I would say for me I am positive my payout amount has dropped. Right now this is probably the longest I have ever gone without earning an ISK amount in the 300,000 range. You mention that one should expect to lose ISK when playing public matches using a Proto suit and I have seen other people say the same thing. I have not played any matches besides Public Contracts so I don't have any basis for comparison. Are there more crappy players in the Factional Contracts or something?
Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 15	Posted - 2014.11.09 22:00:00 - [5] - Quote Mad Kras wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: . the isk payouts are only higher because of your relitive HIGH rank where as us people at the bottom of the pile get sweet FA cause we didnt buy/spend enough aurum I don't agree with you, I didn't get my rank because i bought AUR cuz I never did (exept for the respec) but cuz i've been around for over a year and a half now,plus i really don't think that you get ranks by buying AUR. If you read the patch notes they doesn't mention any changes to the isk payouts.[/quote] You are right that there is no mention of a change in ISK payouts in the patch notes. What I am thinking happened though is somehow the ISK payout was changed when CCP (or whoever) went in to fix the high ISK payouts that were being given out the first day 1.9 was released. If this is the case I don't believe any change in ISK payout would be listed in the patch notes since they were written before the fixing of the high ISK payout we all had for that one day.
Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 16	Posted - 2014.11.09 22:37:00 - [6] - Quote Mad Kras wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Mad Kras wrote: I really don't know man, i have the impression that the isk payouts are slightly higher now, maybe is cuz of my rank (7th <3) but after i've done the respec i run a usually run an std galmando with an adv AR,PLC, 1 adv armour plate and 1 proto amour rep and it costs me around 47k if i'm not wrong, so i must rely just on kills and av to get warpoints and even if i'm on the losing side I can still earn some isk even if i die like 5-6 times(that won't probably happen but let's consider that scenario :P), if you play solo in a pub match with a proto you have to consider the possibility that you'll probably lose money.I really don't understand your issue with the payouts.I don't mean to offend anybody that's just my point of view. I have an Advanced Gallente Assault Medium Dropsuit fitting that is pretty cheap (about 44,000 ISK) that I use when I am trying to save up money so I can restock my Prototype Gallente Assault Medium Dropsuits but my Prototype Dropsuit fittings run me about 100,000 to 140,000 ISK (used to cost me as much as 180,000 ISK). With the current ISK payout I am not earning much, if anything at all, with most of the matches I play now since 1.9 was released. I think players, like me, who storm into battle to break down what ever stronghold the enemy has established should be rewarded for the risks they take in doing that. As for my impression on this ISK payout I would say for me I am positive my payout amount has dropped. Right now this is probably the longest I have ever gone without earning an ISK amount in the 300,000 range. You mention that one should expect to lose ISK when playing public matches using a Proto suit and I have seen other people say the same thing. I have not played any matches besides Public Contracts so I don't have any basis for comparison. Are there more crappy players in the Factional Contracts or something? The proto suit should be used just for PC or if you'r in a good squad of protospompers and you know that somebody will eventually pick you up. My advice is that you invest some SP in the Core skills so that you can fit all your stuff on a basic suit (trust me it makes the difference).You should also reconsider charging into a sea of redberries expecially if yoo know that it'll cost you that much. PC are Corporation Matches, right? If so I don't really currently have the option for that. I am part of my friends Corporation but he doesn't, nor do any of the other 5 or 6 people in the Corporation, really play Dust and they do not attempt to take over galaxies/expand their territory or whatever it is you do in Eve. I'm still taxed by the Corporation at 6% though which is bullshit. I pay taxes and literally receive no benefit for it. I need to join a new Corporation. As for the SP and the Core Skills I started making that investment the moment I started playing this game. I can fit my Advanced Suits into something very special but I love my Proto Suits and investing in the Core Skills only made my Proto Suits more bad ass. I probably should reconsider rushing to the front lines to fight due to the cost of my Drop Suits but having to do that bothers me because I have lost a lot of matches due to my teammates not rushing the enemies and taking them down up close; I don't want to be a part of such a big reason why people lose matches. The way I see it is if I play and win a match, I score first place with over 2000 WP, I get 25 kills, 13 assists, and I die 4 times (highest KDR of anyone on my team) I should never be negative on my ISK (unless of course I lose a crap load of ISK due to vehicles I call in being destroyed).