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Mad Kras
WarRavens
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Posted - 2014.11.09 21:20:00 -
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I really don't know man, i have the impression that the isk payouts are slightly higher now, maybe is cuz of my rank (7th <3) but after i've done the respec i run a usually run an std galmando adv AR,PLC, 1 adv armour plate and 1 proto amour rep and it costs me around 47k if i'm not wrong, so i must rely just on kills and av to get warpoints and if i'm on the winning side I can still earn some isk even if i die like 5-6 times, if you play solo in a pub match with a proto you have to consider the possibility that you'll probably lose money.I really don't understand your issue with the payouts.I don't mean to offend anybody that's just my point of view.
glitches are for b*tches
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Mad Kras
WarRavens
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Posted - 2014.11.09 21:27:00 -
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I really don't know man, i have the impression that the isk payouts are slightly higher now, maybe is cuz of my rank (7th <3) but after i've done the respec i run a usually run an std galmando adv AR,PLC, 1 adv armour plate and 1 proto amour rep and it costs me around 47k if i'm not wrong, so i must rely just on kills and av to get warpoints and even if i'm on the loosing side I can still earn some isk if i die like 5-6 times(it won't probaly happen but let's consider that scenario :P), if you play solo in a pub match with a proto you have to consider the possibility that you'll probably lose money.I really don't understand your issue with the payouts.I don't mean to offend anybody that's just my point of view.
glitches are for b*tches
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Mad Kras
WarRavens
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Posted - 2014.11.09 21:48:00 -
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the isk payouts are only higher because of your relitive HIGH rank where as us people at the bottom of the pile get sweet FA cause we didnt buy/spend enough aurum[/quote]
I don't agree with you, I didn't get my rank because i bought AUR cuz I never did (exept for the respec) but cuz i've been around for over a year and a half now,plus i really don't think that you get ranks by buying AUR. If you read the patch notes they doesn't mention any changes to the isk payouts.
glitches are for b*tches
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Mad Kras
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:03:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Mad Kras wrote:I really don't know man, i have the impression that the isk payouts are slightly higher now, maybe is cuz of my rank (7th <3) but after i've done the respec i run a usually run an std galmando with an adv AR,PLC, 1 adv armour plate and 1 proto amour rep and it costs me around 47k if i'm not wrong, so i must rely just on kills and av to get warpoints and even if i'm on the losing side I can still earn some isk even if i die like 5-6 times(that won't probably happen but let's consider that scenario :P), if you play solo in a pub match with a proto you have to consider the possibility that you'll probably lose money.I really don't understand your issue with the payouts.I don't mean to offend anybody that's just my point of view. I have an Advanced Gallente Assault Medium Dropsuit fitting that is pretty cheap (about 44,000 ISK) that I use when I am trying to save up money so I can restock my Prototype Gallente Assault Medium Dropsuits but my Prototype Dropsuit fittings run me about 100,000 to 140,000 ISK (used to cost me as much as 180,000 ISK). With the current ISK payout I am not earning much, if anything at all, with most of the matches I play now since 1.9 was released. I think players, like me, who storm into battle to break down what ever stronghold the enemy has established should be rewarded for the risks they take in doing that. As for my impression on this ISK payout I would say for me I am positive my payout amount has dropped. Right now this is probably the longest I have ever gone without earning an ISK amount in the 300,000 range. You mention that one should expect to lose ISK when playing public matches using a Proto suit and I have seen other people say the same thing. I have not played any matches besides Public Contracts so I don't have any basis for comparison. Are there more crappy players in the Factional Contracts or something?
The proto suit should be used just for PC or if you'r in a good squad of protospompers and you know that somebody will eventually pick you up. My advice is that you invest some SP in the Core skills so that you can fit all your stuff on a basic suit (trust me it makes the difference).You should also reconsider charging into a sea of redberries expecially if yoo know that it'll cost you that much.
glitches are for b*tches
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Mad Kras
WarRavens
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:09:00 -
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The proto is like a two edge sword, you either do great and get a lot of isk or you go negative, but remember that a well fitted std suit is far better than a proto one runned by somebody who thinks it means auto-win or cuz it's cool.
glitches are for b*tches
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Mad Kras
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:36:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:Because people with lower Loyalty rank are getting less ISK than you. By a pretty high margin I might add.
Risking proto suits is actually more rewarding now simply because WINS and WP are what levels up your loyalty rank.
Don't know about you, but I'm going to be doing everything I can to win a match now because a 10% boost in ISK payouts is well worth any financial risk.
I dunno man, if i'm let's say in the top 3 of a match (with a good score) you usualy get like 280-340k isk not considering the bonus, a full proto suit costs almost 200k and more, so even with the 10% bonus you'll earn between 308-374k isk so it's still very risky. the suits are just empty shells, the thing that really matters is what you put in those shells, so running a proto with just basic or adv stuff it's pointless, I can fit my adv suit with proto weapons and modules so why using a proto in public matches?
glitches are for b*tches
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Mad Kras
WarRavens
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:44:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Mad Kras wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Mad Kras wrote:I really don't know man, i have the impression that the isk payouts are slightly higher now, maybe is cuz of my rank (7th <3) but after i've done the respec i run a usually run an std galmando with an adv AR,PLC, 1 adv armour plate and 1 proto amour rep and it costs me around 47k if i'm not wrong, so i must rely just on kills and av to get warpoints and even if i'm on the losing side I can still earn some isk even if i die like 5-6 times(that won't probably happen but let's consider that scenario :P), if you play solo in a pub match with a proto you have to consider the possibility that you'll probably lose money.I really don't understand your issue with the payouts.I don't mean to offend anybody that's just my point of view. I have an Advanced Gallente Assault Medium Dropsuit fitting that is pretty cheap (about 44,000 ISK) that I use when I am trying to save up money so I can restock my Prototype Gallente Assault Medium Dropsuits but my Prototype Dropsuit fittings run me about 100,000 to 140,000 ISK (used to cost me as much as 180,000 ISK). With the current ISK payout I am not earning much, if anything at all, with most of the matches I play now since 1.9 was released. I think players, like me, who storm into battle to break down what ever stronghold the enemy has established should be rewarded for the risks they take in doing that. As for my impression on this ISK payout I would say for me I am positive my payout amount has dropped. Right now this is probably the longest I have ever gone without earning an ISK amount in the 300,000 range. You mention that one should expect to lose ISK when playing public matches using a Proto suit and I have seen other people say the same thing. I have not played any matches besides Public Contracts so I don't have any basis for comparison. Are there more crappy players in the Factional Contracts or something? The proto suit should be used just for PC or if you'r in a good squad of protospompers and you know that somebody will eventually pick you up. My advice is that you invest some SP in the Core skills so that you can fit all your stuff on a basic suit (trust me it makes the difference).You should also reconsider charging into a sea of redberries expecially if yoo know that it'll cost you that much. PC are Corporation Matches, right? If so I don't really currently have the option for that. I am part of my friends Corporation but he doesn't, nor do any of the other 5 or 6 people in the Corporation, really play Dust and they do not attempt to take over galaxies/expand their territory or whatever it is you do in Eve. I'm still taxed by the Corporation at 6% though which is bullshit. I pay taxes and literally receive no benefit for it. I need to join a new Corporation. As for the SP and the Core Skills I started making that investment the moment I started playing this game. I can fit my Advanced Suits into something very special but I love my Proto Suits and investing in the Core Skills only made my Proto Suits more bad ass. I probably should reconsider rushing to the front lines to fight due to the cost of my Drop Suits but having to do that bothers me because I have lost a lot of matches due to my teammates not rushing the enemies and taking them down up close; I don't want to be a part of such a big reason why people lose matches. The way I see it is if I play and win a match, I score first place with over 2000 WP, I get 25 kills, 13 assists, and I die 4 times (highest KDR of anyone on my team) I should never be negative on my ISK (unless of course I lose a crap load of ISK due to vehicles I call in being destroyed).
you see the point is how you win the match, according to what you'r saying i could lose 4 tanks worth 250k each and still go positive
glitches are for b*tches
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Mad Kras
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.11.09 22:53:00 -
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it's all about thinking if it's worth bringing the costly stuff into a match, you should consider who you'r playing with and against. If you don't have lot of people in your corp there are always a lot of chats where you can find people LFS. Consider joining the Radio Warravens chatroom, there's always somebody with room in his squad (and yes i'm spamming here  ).
glitches are for b*tches
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