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        |  Breakin Stuff
 Goonfeet
 Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
 
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      | Posted - 2014.11.09 16:36:00 -
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 If Sentinels couldn't hack?
 
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        |  I-Shayz-I
 I----------I
 
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      | Posted - 2014.11.09 16:40:00 -
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 Then you'd better give us some points for being a bullet sponge cause **** man...sentinels can only get kills and kill assists aside from hacking. Maybe even just bonus points for being next to an objective and killing anything near it.
 
 Kill +50
 Defender +25
 Hardened +6
 
 You can get 30 kills and still get 8th place on the board if your team is competent, meaning lowered isk rewards. Sentinels have it tough as it is currently unless they are squad leaders
 
 Or make a variant that subs out a sidearm for an equipment slot
 
 CCP IF YOU'RE READING THIS MAKE MY DREAM COME TRUE AND LET ME USE A REPAIR TOOL WITH A HMG PLEASE
 
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        |  Breakin Stuff
 Goonfeet
 Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
 
 4728
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.09 16:53:00 -
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 I-Shayz-I wrote:Then you'd better give us some points for being a bullet sponge cause **** man...sentinels can only get kills and kill assists aside from hacking. Maybe even just bonus points for being next to an objective and killing anything near it.
 Kill +50
 Defender +25
 Hardened +6
 
 You can get 30 kills and still get 8th place on the board if your team is competent, meaning lowered isk rewards. Sentinels have it tough as it is currently unless they are squad leaders
 
 Or make a variant that subs out a sidearm for an equipment slot
 
 CCP IF YOU'RE READING THIS MAKE MY DREAM COME TRUE AND LET ME USE A REPAIR TOOL WITH A HMG PLEASE
 AV says your post is incorrect.
 
 I can get quite a bit higher than 8th place with AV
 
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        |  Pokey Dravon
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
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      | Posted - 2014.11.09 17:49:00 -
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 I think in general suits are a little *too* multipurpose. If only certain suits can perform critical actions, you basically force a more diverse selection of suit types on the battlefield, which I think is good. Specifics are of course up for discussion, but I think overall its a valid thought process to pursue.
 
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        |  Breakin Stuff
 Goonfeet
 Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
 
 4730
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.09 17:52:00 -
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 Me and kane were talking about this a bit ago.
 
 it would INSTANTLY change heavy meta.
 
 But how do you change the meta so everyone doesn't just go "No worries, I'll just roll scout, LOL?"
 
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        |  Killar-12
 The Corporate Raiders
 Top Men.
 
 3400
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.09 19:57:00 -
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 Sure... I'd be interested...
 
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        |  Vyzion Eyri
 The Southern Legion
 Final Resolution.
 
 2519
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.09 20:08:00 -
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 Or maybe change their hacking rate so that it's implausible for them to consider hacking, but they can still assist a hack.
 
 It may be a nice change. Firstly heavies won't instantly lose their suits to remotes as often because they won't be on top of points as much, and secondly they will rather spend time defending the people hacking than trying to squeeze in on some juicy hack WPs, and killing people might net them more WP than maybe getting a hack assist whilst letting the enemy swarm into the point and shoot the hackers.
 
 Or it could fall on its head depending on how much hacking heavies do already, and render the suit redundant as pointed out previously.
 
 
 
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        |  Kain Spero
 Goonfeet
 
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      | Posted - 2014.11.10 11:17:00 -
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 I think making heavies not able to hack objectives would be a really good change. I think back to PC and when one team would try to vehicle spam like crazy, good vehicles as well, but still have the battle end in a loss for them because vehicles can't hack points.
 
 If you have a bunch of heavies with no other infantry support defending an objective you can actually turn the tide with a speed hack. A large penalty to the heavy hacking rate could also work (and would be hot fixable).
 
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        |  Dubya Guy
 Abandoned Privilege
 Top Men.
 
 14
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.10 17:55:00 -
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 I share this sentiment:
 
 
 Pokey Dravon wrote:I think in general suits are a little *too* multipurpose. If only certain suits can perform critical actions, you basically force a more diverse selection of suit types on the battlefield, which I think is good. Specifics are of course up for discussion, but I think overall its a valid thought process to pursue.  
 Particularly combined with some cost to switching suits at a supply depot ala this thread:
 
 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2445459#post2445459
 
 
 Battles would be decided a little less by the count of how many polymath heroes were on each side, and a little more on communication, planning, and coordination. The mid-level player with only one specialty could make more of a difference in any particular battle. Pub match squads would care a little more about skill-mix of members rather than just a grab-bag of whoever is online in their favorite chat channel at the time. Suits should reflect and limit roles with it remaining possible, but costly (time, vulnerability, whatever) to switch suits in a battle.
 
 
 
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 14378
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.10 19:01:00 -
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 Breakin Stuff wrote:If Sentinels couldn't hack? 
 Nothing much they should be covering hackers anyway.
 
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