DUST Search - When do we get news on the new PC changes?

Bradric Banewolf wrote:

Holy sh*t!!! I was wondering when you guys would get tired of heavy spam, FOTM, and that library as Mr. Odinson42 put it?!

PC is worse than the pubs in some cases. Atleast in the pubs mercs use different weapons. I can count the weapons used in PC on 2 hands, but we have alot more than that to our disposal. CCP is hooked on FOTM which has helped destroy PC. Every time I hear a bolt pistol I wanna say F my whole mission, and hunt that bs down!

Some of the maps available for PC should not even be used for PC. They're all predominantly setup for heavy spam. Then for those who complain about remotes! How the hell else would you like me to kill 4 heavies with 3 logies??

Right now if you wanna do PC, and you don't have a heavy you better have a scout?! Then once you get the district you district lock to make cash, and lose it all trying to hold it. The production facility produces only clones? Not tanks, dropships, dropsuits, or weapons?! Just clones, because we don't have enough of those right?

Passive isk was stupid, but so is the district buddy system that only produces chest beating heavies that are "gud"?! Cuz that's hard smh?!

Too many suggestions for a much better PC, FW, and pub experience have been suggested for us to still being loading up 16 mercs for PC with 10 heavies?! Why aren't the much larg er maps used for PC? With the small maps it's basically an ambush?! On the larger maps heavies and logies still have a role, but so does everyone else! Currently there's no way I can use my assault at long range to kill the heavies holding the point when they all have logies?! I have to go in for the remote drop!

No way I have enough dps with the rifle's to kill a whole logi train in time to hack the point and win the battle. You basically get in first, drop uplinks and hack, die, prey your buddies dropship isn't lagged in mid air, spam heavies, and wait?!

This is stupid as hell!!! On more open maps the best battles in the pubs are fought imo! Tanks raging, ads's bombing, transport ships with gunners in tow dropping troops, assaults keeping ground troops at bay, heavies holding points, scouts hacking, logies who actually carry ammo and not just rep tools, etc. The battles are full blown as long as no one gets butthurt and reports to the redline to afk?!

The strategy needed to win on open maps is great! It forces communication, versatility, and adaptation! PC is one big ambush with null cannons right now?! The PC teams even go to ambush to train up lol! You see them going full proto logi train all the time getting ready for PC?! That's pethetic?!

CCP and the CPM have their work cut out for them on this. Currently for most players in the community there's more to gain in the pubs. That's why we're seeing post about PC corps trying to get more corps active in PC in the forums. There's no one left to fight?! It's a desert in PC?!


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Ace Boone 366	Posted - 2014.11.09 15:30:00 - [1] - Quote PC is a desolate wasteland and there needs to be a reason for new corps to get involved. Getting tired of fighting Vengeance and KEQ, they're good but damn we need fresh meat. Only loyal to the republic.
Ace Boone 366	Posted - 2014.11.09 22:32:00 - [2] - Quote They just need to make districts valuable and give a real incentive to competitive gaming. Imo, they should bring passive isk back but in a different form that makes a larger amount of districts hard to defend but easy to attack. Only loyal to the republic.
Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC 374	Posted - 2014.11.13 00:29:00 - [3] - Quote jade gamester wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: [quote=Ace Boone]PC is a desolate wasteland and there needs to be a reason for new corps to get involved. Its BORING. Getting tired of fighting Vengeance and KEQ, they're bad and the fights are generally stomps against them unless they bring ridiculous amounts of ringers./quote] FTFY Yes I agree 100% that PC needs a shakeup. Ohhhhhh you edited it, isn't that cute :) you realise you lost last night right? Don't be cocky it doesn't suit you gg I'll give you a 2/10 for your poor effort Don't worry, the elitists time will come to an end soon. No one is that good at the game now that PC is somewhat balanced. I've gone up with and against AE/ERA/0.H/NS' best, and there a couple of them that post 20+ kills every now and then but no ridiculous scored like 44/17 with the utilization of extremely overpowered fits like in days past. The fact of the matter is, most of the players that claim they were "the best" back in the day, weren't really untouchable in skill, they just had a higher awareness, knew how to play the game, and took advantage of ridiculously OP fits. This was paired with spamming the most overpowered suits/vehicles in a relatively organized manner that led many inexperienced PC players to think they were god-like, when in reality, we just hadn't really had the experience yet. In the past, I thought corps like TeamPlayers/Escrow/AE were just too good to be beat. In reality, I realized it wasn't their skill level as much as it was their organization and PC experience. I'm certain if I went back up against these corps in my current state with my current playstyle, I would do much, much better. /endofparagraph EDIT: This is why I respect 0.H/KEQ - They continued to push in PC until they legitimately improved and became contenders. KEQ is a respectable opponent, and continues to get better every single day. I've had rosters that have far outmatched them in talent and KDRs (KEQ, not so much 0.H), but have still lost. It's not necessarily an A-team roster consisting of gifted players, but it's a good TEAM. That's what matters. Only loyal to the republic.
Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC 378	Posted - 2014.11.13 02:03:00 - [4] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: Holy sh*t!!! I was wondering when you guys would get tired of heavy spam, FOTM, and that library as Mr. Odinson42 put it?! PC is worse than the pubs in some cases. Atleast in the pubs mercs use different weapons. I can count the weapons used in PC on 2 hands, but we have alot more than that to our disposal. CCP is hooked on FOTM which has helped destroy PC. Every time I hear a bolt pistol I wanna say F my whole mission, and hunt that bs down! Some of the maps available for PC should not even be used for PC. They're all predominantly setup for heavy spam. Then for those who complain about remotes! How the hell else would you like me to kill 4 heavies with 3 logies?? Right now if you wanna do PC, and you don't have a heavy you better have a scout?! Then once you get the district you district lock to make cash, and lose it all trying to hold it. The production facility produces only clones? Not tanks, dropships, dropsuits, or weapons?! Just clones, because we don't have enough of those right? Passive isk was stupid, but so is the district buddy system that only produces chest beating heavies that are "gud"?! Cuz that's hard smh?! Too many suggestions for a much better PC, FW, and pub experience have been suggested for us to still being loading up 16 mercs for PC with 10 heavies?! Why aren't the much larg er maps used for PC? With the small maps it's basically an ambush?! On the larger maps heavies and logies still have a role, but so does everyone else! Currently there's no way I can use my assault at long range to kill the heavies holding the point when they all have logies?! I have to go in for the remote drop! No way I have enough dps with the rifle's to kill a whole logi train in time to hack the point and win the battle. You basically get in first, drop uplinks and hack, die, prey your buddies dropship isn't lagged in mid air, spam heavies, and wait?! This is stupid as hell!!! On more open maps the best battles in the pubs are fought imo! Tanks raging, ads's bombing, transport ships with gunners in tow dropping troops, assaults keeping ground troops at bay, heavies holding points, scouts hacking, logies who actually carry ammo and not just rep tools, etc. The battles are full blown as long as no one gets butthurt and reports to the redline to afk?! The strategy needed to win on open maps is great! It forces communication, versatility, and adaptation! PC is one big ambush with null cannons right now?! The PC teams even go to ambush to train up lol! You see them going full proto logi train all the time getting ready for PC?! That's pethetic?! CCP and the CPM have their work cut out for them on this. Currently for most players in the community there's more to gain in the pubs. That's why we're seeing post about PC corps trying to get more corps active in PC in the forums. There's no one left to fight?! It's a desert in PC?! Big maps just means scouts everywhere, because they're faster from point to point. Assaults really don't have a purpose in PC. Scouts out-do them at everything in PC, except HP. Only loyal to the republic.
Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC 378	Posted - 2014.11.13 02:08:00 - [5] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Totally agree Ace, also: Add the new maps to PC Fix eWar (don't make it useless though) Take down HMG damage a bit Make logistics suit cheaper or more viable AV / Vehicle balance needs a total redo (or better yet just change it back to 1.6, with swarms and forges doing 9% less damage, and ADS being more viable) Ladders to all high ground Passive ISK? I think so. (though, there would be a cap to how much one corp can make a day) Surface Research Lab cringe So yeah, it's as simple as doing all that. LADDERS AND STAIRS HOLY CRAP. Every single high-ground area needs to have an entrance that is easily obtained. You guys did a good job with this on some maps, but it still needs to be improved. LADDERS AND STAIRS GUYS, LADDERS AND STAIRS. Only loyal to the republic.