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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

CCP Rattati wrote:

Apothecary Za'ki wrote:

Louis Domi wrote:

Ok so isk is bugged(not one of those double the pay out threads)
was in a game just now where both me and like 5 people on the enemy team were commited to proto. I killed alot of proto that game, I get only 216k isk??? What the actual ****? How does the game calculate isk gains now? Cuz 2 games ago I was in an ambush, went negative and I still got more isk then this -.- Its ******* inconsistent

its based on WP and time spent in match.. but yeah isk payouts suck in 1.9 for low ranked (loyalty rank) people its like 50k to 70k less then what we got in 1.8 most of the time.

B.S.

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Isk payout is based on items destroyed (both sides) rather than time spent. More expensive the fight (and better everyone performs) the more everyone (as a whole) gets paid. This is a well known fact since closed beta with CCP Wolfman explaining, though never detailing as to how.

My heaviest paid matches in the past had involved scores of vehicle deaths and trying to win the clone count war on skirmish.

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Foo Fighting THE HANDS OF DEATH RUST415 145	Posted - 2014.11.09 15:08:00 - [31] - Quote Could the buff to installations hp be a culprit? Often they are still standing at the end of the match, whereas before they were all destroyed with their cost/value included in the isk pool to divvy out.
CeeJ Mantis Mantodea MC 83	Posted - 2014.11.09 19:50:00 - [32] - Quote I have been getting paid more on average. From what I can tell, the things that effect payout are total match time, percentage of match time you were in the game (leaving early/joining late), value of things destroyed, and percentage of team total war points, and win/loss (the total of value of stuff/clones destroyedis split 60/40 in favor of the winners). If there are a lot of people doing well on your team, then each person is getting a smaller percentage of the total pool than if you are the only star player, and winning pays out 50% more than loosing. Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2089	Posted - 2014.11.09 20:35:00 - [33] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: From what I gather, especially after witnessing certain events during closed beta and open beta, it's not just war points gained and time in match. It's far more than that. The value of the suits you destroy also play a role. I bear witness to one event in which ccp was going to wipe our assets during an incoming reset going from closed beta to open beta. Knowing this was going to happen, players ran nothing but their most expensive fits and during that time the payout was nearly one million isk for some players per match. Once the skill points and assets were wiped and we started over with militia gear and minimal isk the payout dropped to what you see now. It's likely that the value of the fit destroyed plays a role in your payout. You can kill a bunch of militia suits but get low pay or you can kill a few proto suits and get good pay. This is my understanding as wel, except the value of suits destroyed is summed not allocated by individual. So, the total isk payout is a function of what's lost. This is divided between players on the team based on amount of time in battle and WP. Or at least that's my best guess.
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 471	Posted - 2014.11.09 20:59:00 - [34] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: It's likely that the value of the fit destroyed plays a role in your payout. You can kill a bunch of militia suits but get low pay or you can kill a few proto suits and get good pay. Wrecking vehicles helps too albeit seemingly far less than it used to, smashed 2 tanks and an ADS in one game yesterday and got about the same as I would for an average match (250k or so) and later on smashed 5 DSs and 2 LAVs but only got like 330k or there abouts. Admittedly I was ranked fairly low in both games so that plays some part. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 337	Posted - 2014.11.10 01:43:00 - [35] - Quote I'd like to add I get less isk too. I get that the value of the gear you break gives you more money -- but I sil mess less. And I make less than most as I am the a(ssist)/dr champion.
DarthPlagueis TheWise 344	Posted - 2014.11.10 01:47:00 - [36] - Quote IT'S A GOOD THING. IT MEANS PROTO IS NO LONGER PROFITABLE. Bolas deploys tank in strategic location
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17673	Posted - 2014.11.10 06:59:00 - [37] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Louis Domi wrote: Ok so isk is bugged(not one of those double the pay out threads) was in a game just now where both me and like 5 people on the enemy team were commited to proto. I killed alot of proto that game, I get only 216k isk??? What the actual **? How does the game calculate isk gains now? Cuz 2 games ago I was in an ambush, went negative and I still got more isk then this -.- Its ***** inconsistent its based on WP and time spent in match.. but yeah isk payouts suck in 1.9 for low ranked (loyalty rank) people its like 50k to 70k less then what we got in 1.8 most of the time. B.S. Context Isk payout is based on items destroyed (both sides) rather than time spent. More expensive the fight (and better everyone performs) the more everyone (as a whole) gets paid. This is a well known fact since closed beta with CCP Wolfman explaining, though never detailing as to how. My heaviest paid matches in the past had involved scores of vehicle deaths and trying to win the clone count war on skirmish. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1010	Posted - 2014.11.10 19:31:00 - [38] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Louis Domi wrote: Ok so isk is bugged(not one of those double the pay out threads) was in a game just now where both me and like 5 people on the enemy team were commited to proto. I killed alot of proto that game, I get only 216k isk??? What the actual **? How does the game calculate isk gains now? Cuz 2 games ago I was in an ambush, went negative and I still got more isk then this -.- Its ***** inconsistent its based on WP and time spent in match.. but yeah isk payouts suck in 1.9 for low ranked (loyalty rank) people its like 50k to 70k less then what we got in 1.8 most of the time. B.S. Context Isk payout is based on items destroyed (both sides) rather than time spent. More expensive the fight (and better everyone performs) the more everyone (as a whole) gets paid. This is a well known fact since closed beta with CCP Wolfman explaining, though never detailing as to how. My heaviest paid matches in the past had involved scores of vehicle deaths and trying to win the clone count war on skirmish. Wow, you made me login which I haven't for some time. Regarding the time spent in battle affecting ISK you are right about match length (IMO) however you are WRONG if you are not in the battle for the full duration. I've come in mid - way to a battle where my team was redlined. Gone and taken the point, came in first on the leader board by a ton and gotten < 100K ISK. I have seen this many times, basically if you come into a battle mid way through you might as well just leave. Overlord of Broman
Ku Shala The Generals 1011	Posted - 2014.11.10 20:00:00 - [39] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: B.S. honestly ive had match under 100 000 isk with 1500 wp and 16/8 kd. you pay for 8 suits with 100k its not consistant but there is some bug *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (Caldari Specialist)* Caldari Loyalist *Assault -Logistics-Sentinal-Scout-Commando Allround CK-0
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries 972	Posted - 2014.11.10 20:13:00 - [40] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: B.S. honestly ive had match under 100 000 isk with 1500 wp and 16/8 kd. you pay for 8 suits with 100k its not consistant but there is some bug He doesn't care or he would of clarified, or responded to OP with humility... Nothing to see here keep buying Aurum while they "balance the game"

Everything Dies FUNNY NAME GOES HERE 1071	Posted - 2014.11.10 20:35:00 - [41] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Louis Domi wrote: Ok so isk is bugged(not one of those double the pay out threads) was in a game just now where both me and like 5 people on the enemy team were commited to proto. I killed alot of proto that game, I get only 216k isk??? What the actual **? How does the game calculate isk gains now? Cuz 2 games ago I was in an ambush, went negative and I still got more isk then this -.- Its ***** inconsistent its based on WP and time spent in match.. but yeah isk payouts suck in 1.9 for low ranked (loyalty rank) people its like 50k to 70k less then what we got in 1.8 most of the time. B.S. I don't think it's quite as bad as he says but it appears I'm getting less on average than I used to. I think a lot of it is sheer frustration coloring some perception but in my case I'm pretty sure that there is some truth to it. But since you and the CPM said you were looking at ISK payouts I'm wishing people would calm down and let you all hammer some details out. Agree. On average, noticing maybe a 10-20k ISK drop off compared to 1.8. Rattati--given that we are now able to sell assets for ISK, would it be possible to increase the rate of item drops in battles? Even if it's only standard gear that is significantly boosted, the salvage could bring a little extra ISK while also giving newer players the chance to fool around with weapons they otherwise might overlook. Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof
RayRay James Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 702	Posted - 2014.11.10 21:32:00 - [42] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: Zimander wrote: My 1st game today i gat 4040 WP 3/2 KD and 490k isk Hmm, well maybe I should start logi'ing, seems like thats the best way to make money now a days( too bad my adv logi suit costs 100k+ to run... expensive ****) My Pro Gal Logi is 286K


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