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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.11.09 00:11:00 -
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I'm leaning against going with the RR simply because I'm a Gal scout and that thing is NOT helpful with maintaining stealth...
Being a veteran AR user I laugh at the people who think Breach can keep up with the other rifles now. It's **** at CQC. I really hate the other variants as well.
I was trying out the ScR and I like it a lot. Gives you a better ranged option than RR because the charged shot won't break your stealth if you are aware of your immediate surroundings. However I was doing it on my Amarr Assault character and still haven't tried it on my scout.
I don't like the way the CR handles although I didn't practice it for very long. Maybe I need to fine tune my sensitivity settings, and I'd imagine I'll like it a lot more once I get used to hipfiring while strafing like all the FOTM scrubs do.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4485
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Posted - 2014.11.09 00:12:00 -
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Michael Arck
5998
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Posted - 2014.11.09 00:13:00 -
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I wouldn't dare to think of putting a RR on a Gal Scout. Unless you're talking about the assault version, but still. Sounds like your choices narrow to ScR and AR. Though in my world, I would probably chose a AR. But I'm no expert, take my advice with a grain of salt.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
18863
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Posted - 2014.11.09 00:14:00 -
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I use either the ACR or the SCR, usually.
ACR + SMG just gives you a ludicrous number of bullets to throw at things while you strafe all over the place and shreds armour like mad.
SCR + knives gives you the punch to shred through anything weak super quick at most ranges and then if you come up against a tough target you can abuse EWAR to get behind them with knives and practically instakill them.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Ace Boone
365
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Posted - 2014.11.09 00:15:00 -
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CR eats armor, bad against shields RR is bad in CQC, bad against shields SCR is good in CQC and range, but the overheat cripples you unless on an amarr assault, or very accurate with the charge SG is pretty much the alpha weapon for scouts, but of course the range isn't very good LR is situational, but very good when used correctly.
I'd go with the CR personally, if your aim is good, you can overcome it being worse against shields, but it really does shred armor.
Only loyal to the republic.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
2209
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Posted - 2014.11.09 00:17:00 -
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AR, CR, SCR if you feeling fancy. Two SMGs. BAR is nice or im doing it wrong.
PSN Sil4ntChaozz
Define Min Scout-Ninja/Define Gal Scout-Predator
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Jathniel
G I A N T
1241
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Posted - 2014.11.09 00:18:00 -
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TAR. Used to run it on my cal scout quite a bit, with a dmg mod or two.
That mofo is nasty to surprise peeps with.
Just be fast with your finger and keep it on target. It also eats other scouts for breakfast.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1722
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Posted - 2014.11.09 00:18:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:I'm leaning against going with the RR simply because I'm a Gal scout and that thing is NOT helpful with maintaining stealth...
Being a veteran AR user I laugh at the people who think Breach can keep up with the other rifles now. It's **** at CQC. I really hate the other variants as well.
I was trying out the ScR and I like it a lot. Gives you a better ranged option than RR because the charged shot won't break your stealth if you are aware of your immediate surroundings. However I was doing it on my Amarr Assault character and still haven't tried it on my scout.
I don't like the way the CR handles although I didn't practice it for very long. Maybe I need to fine tune my sensitivity settings, and I'd imagine I'll like it a lot more once I get used to hipfiring while strafing like all the FOTM scrubs do. ion pistol+NKs or Breach AR
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1722
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Posted - 2014.11.09 00:19:00 -
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Ace Boone wrote:CR eats armor, bad against shields RR is bad in CQC, bad against shields SCR is good in CQC and range, but the overheat cripples you unless on an amarr assault, or very accurate with the charge SG is pretty much the alpha weapon for scouts, but of course the range isn't very good LR is situational, but very good when used correctly.
I'd go with the CR personally, if your aim is good, you can overcome it being worse against shields, but it really does shred armor. ARR is quite good now.
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Juno Tristan
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2014.11.09 00:20:00 -
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SCR is good for its charge shot Alpha damage, but can be confusing if you also run Amarr Assault as you don't know when to stop firing |
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
1144
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Posted - 2014.11.09 00:24:00 -
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any weapon that isnt minmatar easy mode.
Don't vote for iron wolf saber.
Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
7491
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Posted - 2014.11.09 00:28:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:I'm leaning against going with the RR simply because I'm a Gal scout and that thing is NOT helpful with maintaining stealth...
Being a veteran AR user I laugh at the people who think Breach can keep up with the other rifles now. It's **** at CQC. I really hate the other variants as well.
I was trying out the ScR and I like it a lot. Gives you a better ranged option than RR because the charged shot won't break your stealth if you are aware of your immediate surroundings. However I was doing it on my Amarr Assault character and still haven't tried it on my scout.
I don't like the way the CR handles although I didn't practice it for very long. Maybe I need to fine tune my sensitivity settings, and I'd imagine I'll like it a lot more once I get used to hipfiring while strafing like all the FOTM scrubs do.
Breach AR is fantastic in CQC, I have no clue what you are talking about.
It's got very little kick, a large clip, and high damage. What more could you want?
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4485
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Posted - 2014.11.09 00:31:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:any weapon that isnt minmatar easy mode.
Every minmatar weapon has been fotm at some point in time.
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1238
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Posted - 2014.11.09 00:35:00 -
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Here are some options that you could go for BCR: Ah the lovely Burst Combat Rifle, a nice weapon do make some dents in things. Very good weapon for flanking. However Ammo can be an issue on some maps where supply depots are scarce. Overall good choice if you are decent with bursting
ACR: Ultimate spray and pray king. Hipfire is nice and tight so strafing will give you a major advantage. Very good flanking weapon if you lead with a flux then spray everything down. Ammo is an issue with this weapon but can be easily combated if your in a squad cuz greenberries.
ARR: Nice range plus decent CQC. Kick is ridiculous so i wouldn't reccommend it on a scout cuz you need to make your shots count and hurt in a short amount of time.
AR: Standard AR is pretty bad even at Proficiency 3 so don't use it unless its officer. But who am i kidding no ones risking an officer on a scout-the most fragile thing in the game unless you tank it like a scrub. Burst AR is a watered down version of the BCR. Breach is not bad but there are better options than that. Ammo is a big pain in the ass cuz AR and Burst AR do pitiful damage.
SG: Best Option IMO cuz of 3 hit instagank lol. Flaws are people who back up like a scrub and hit detection.
ScR: One of my favorite weapons but unless its on an Amarr Assault, you lose a lot of potential. It does monstrous damage in a short amount of time, if you hit it all rounds. Using a Viziam on my gk.0 took a while to get used to because i have an Amarr Assault which i use quite a bit but it shouldn't be that hard to get used to. This weapon is very efficient as it takes 3-5 shots to deplete shields then you are gonna switch to a sidearm (hopefully SMG) to finish him.
AScR: Another viable choice but it's like the AR; takes too many shots to kill and ammo are problems with this weapon.
LR: You would choose this if you are A. High B. Drunk C. Stupid D. Unaware of how bad this is E. Want to waste ISK F. For the Lulz Anyway don't do this it's a very poor desicion
MD: Are you kidding me you should already have made up your mind already. If you are considering the MD, don't your gonna kill yourself.
HMG: This is by far the most balanced weapon on a senti.... Dammit Zin we r talking about scouts not Sentinels!
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
321
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Posted - 2014.11.09 00:58:00 -
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I should have mentioned my sidearm is a ScP.
**** it, I'm skilling up an alt with proto Combat Rifles. I'm probably going to be leaning towards that because it's the only rifle that matches my ScP perfectly, and from using my heavy a lot I'll be used to the projectile damage profile.
Yeah... I should have realized when I was using the ScR I shouldn't have been doing it on the Amarr Assault if I wanted to get a feel of how it is with a scout.
Quote:Breach AR is fantastic in CQC, I have no clue what you are talking about.
It's got very little kick, a large clip, and high damage. What more could you want?
I don't have a SMG like most of you **** heads do. More power to you if you can make the slow RoF hit with every bullet in CQC because I can't. Maybe you haven't picked up an AR in so long you don't realize the regular variant does better close up.
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sabre prime
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
747
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Posted - 2014.11.09 02:28:00 -
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Breach AR seems to be popular at the moment. But you need to have good aim. Edit: add an SMG and you have a classic load out for a cqc scout actually. Sometimes the simple fits are the best.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2785
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Posted - 2014.11.09 02:36:00 -
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BAR>All other weapons
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I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1239
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Posted - 2014.11.09 02:42:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:BAR>All other weapons Breach or Burst?
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1022
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Posted - 2014.11.09 02:44:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:BAR>All other weapons Nerf bat incoming
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2789
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Posted - 2014.11.09 05:27:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:BAR>All other weapons Breach or Burst? ...What do you think?
Breach, of course.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4454
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Posted - 2014.11.09 05:29:00 -
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Shotgun Rifle |
Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
757
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Posted - 2014.11.09 05:30:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:BAR>All other weapons Nerf bat incoming
Au revoir Jacques!
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D4GG3R
499
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Posted - 2014.11.09 05:34:00 -
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Amarr assault, SCR, Alpha combo.
I'm pretty plain.
I watch anime for the boobs
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
438
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Posted - 2014.11.09 05:42:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:BAR>All other weapons Nerf bat incoming
I swear to god if CCP nerfs any variant of the AR class again I'm going to quit this bias game?! Whose mother did the gallente leave to die on the battlefield?!! As it is the Breach variant AR is the best we have to offer in the weaponry department.
To answer the OP's question I run the breach AR, ARR, RR, CR, and SG on my gk.0. Your preference in fire power should compliment your playstyle. It's good to play to your bonus with the AR variants, but as we all know the AR class is lacking in certain situations.
Shotgun/sub combo is good. AR(any variant)/sub is good. Nova Knives as a sidearm with any rifle is good for long range/CQC combo.
CCP, unless it's a buff leave my gal weapons alone!
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Super Sniper95
Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment.
396
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Posted - 2014.11.09 05:42:00 -
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Plasma Cannon + Flaylock Pistol for the lulz.
Hand-Eye Coordination Prof 5... Deal with it.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2704
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Posted - 2014.11.09 05:44:00 -
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Super Sniper95 wrote:Plasma Cannon + Flaylock Pistol for the lulz.
Oh god so much this! <3
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Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
13528
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Posted - 2014.11.09 07:38:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:any weapon that isnt minmatar easy mode.
Every minmatar weapon has been fotm at some point in time. So has every Amarr and Caldari Weapon, well except Swarms.
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Lloyd Orfay
SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
190
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Posted - 2014.11.09 07:47:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:I'm leaning against going with the RR simply because I'm a Gal scout and that thing is NOT helpful with maintaining stealth...
Being a veteran AR user I laugh at the people who think Breach can keep up with the other rifles now. It's **** at CQC. I really hate the other variants as well.
I was trying out the ScR and I like it a lot. Gives you a better ranged option than RR because the charged shot won't break your stealth if you are aware of your immediate surroundings. However I was doing it on my Amarr Assault character and still haven't tried it on my scout.
I don't like the way the CR handles although I didn't practice it for very long. Maybe I need to fine tune my sensitivity settings, and I'd imagine I'll like it a lot more once I get used to hipfiring while strafing like all the FOTM scrubs do.
I was going to give advice, but the ignorance with the breach PR part(Breach AR is currently a commonly used weapon and can even kill heavies easily), misinformation of scrambler giving better range and stealth option(when in fact RR has a longer effective range than ScR and charge shots make a sound and bright lights emit from it when charging) , using FOTM and scrubs topped it off and made me decide not to. Are you joking? |
DarthPlagueis TheWise
340
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Posted - 2014.11.09 23:43:00 -
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Lloyd Orfay wrote:I was going to give advice, but the ignorance with the breach PR part(Breach AR is currently a commonly used weapon and can even kill heavies easily), misinformation of scrambler giving better range and stealth option(when in fact RR has a longer effective range than ScR and charge shots make a sound and bright lights emit from it when charging) , using FOTM and scrubs topped it off and made me decide not to. Are you joking?
Shut the **** up you Shaking Baby proto stomping crutch using scrub. Your entire corp is scum.
Good luck hitting a scout with the BAR when he outstrafes your auto aim. Yeah it's a decent gun now but I've been using the AR for a ******* year now, I'm nowhere near ignorant. In PC you're not going to have the stopping power you need against armor stacked heavies and assaults. You can ******* strafe through the breach's slow RoF at ANY RANGE. Which is exactly why I put the gun down after losing an AR duel against Derrith Erador when he was only using a ******* BPO with a Toxin and I had the ADV Logi with the GB-9. The bottom line is I feel way more comfortable with the regular AR because it outperforms the breach at CQC, I don't care what anyone says. And I know way too much about the metagame and the AR to be fooled into thinking BAR can hold its own against the CR and ScR being an all purpose weapon. Breach is good at picking people off from medium to short range, but that's it. CR and ScR are multi-purpose and excel in any situation.
And the RR makes the enemy instantly aware of you from almost anywhere on the battlefield, the kick was bad even before the nerf and like someone else in the thread said, as a Scout every shot counts.
Nobody is going to hear your ScR unless they are within your passive scanning range, and at that point it's your own fault for not knowing they're there. You shouldn't be charging the ScR if you're getting close enough to be heard so that's not what I was talking about. It's great for picking the enemy off at range and if they already know you're there at close quarters you might as well charge it up if you're not going to run away.
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
341
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Posted - 2014.11.09 23:59:00 -
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Anyway I have tried the ADV ScR and AScR on a basic Gal scout and I LOVE IT. I understand what you mean Zindorak about the Assault having a low DPS like the AR, but I really feel a huge difference because the AR misses a lot of bullets whereas the AScR doesn't and it has longer range. But there are some issues.
Cons
- I don't have a SMG which is the perfect sidearm combo with the ScR.
- I was really feeling the crunch against CR users, even at range. They tore me apart.
- The metagame is still armor dominant, and it's not going to hit armor as hard as a CR.
- I already have my ScP skilled up for dealing with Cal Scouts.
Pros
- The thing is a beast at range, which is perfect for a Scout because you don't want to take any damage.
- It does very well at closer ranges, even at CQC because of the great accuracy.
- I have a feeling I'm going to need it against my mortal enemy, the Cal Scout.
I'm going to test out another alt character that I've now put a combat rifle on the Gal scout, to see which one I prefer.
Right now for me it's between the CR and ScR.
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