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          MCEINSTEIN08 
          ADAMANTIUM CORE
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        Posted - 2014.11.08 00:32:00 -
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          I just made a big mistake, I Respec.
  Yes you do get all your Lifetime skill points back, but what I didn't realize was that in a year and plus I have been playing, the skill tree changed many times, and the skills changed also. I had a couple of skills that I was not using, as of Bolt Pistol or so, so I tough I can respec and eliminate what I do not use.
  Unfortunately to my surprise I cannot get back some of the things I was using before as of I had level 5 Sentinel, now I was only able to reach level 3. I lost millions of Skills. This sucks big time.
  But my mistake, your benefit. Really think before respec. | 
      
      
      
          
          Mobius Wyvern 
          Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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          MCEINSTEIN08 wrote:I just made a big mistake, I Respec.
  Yes you do get all your Lifetime skill points back, but what I didn't realize was that in a year and plus I have been playing, the skill tree changed many times, and the skills changed also. I had a couple of skills that I was not using, as of Bolt Pistol or so, so I tough I can respec and eliminate what I do not use.
  Unfortunately to my surprise I cannot get back some of the things I was using before as of I had level 5 Sentinel, now I was only able to reach level 3. I lost millions of Skills. This sucks big time.
  But my mistake, your benefit. Really think before respec.   How many skillpoints did you have total?
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          JUDASisMYhomeboy 
          xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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          That happened to me with the uprising respec | 
      
      
      
          
          Sgt Kirk 
          Fatal Absolution
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          scrub
 CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.  
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          MCEINSTEIN08 
          ADAMANTIUM CORE
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        Posted - 2014.11.08 00:40:00 -
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          Right now I have about 28mil
  But the skills were different a year or so ago, so when you respect today you pay a certain amount of skills, most likely a year or so ago it was less. | 
      
      
      
          
          Atiim 
          Heaven's Lost Property
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        Posted - 2014.11.08 00:42:00 -
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          I thought the SP refund was 100%.
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          Joseph Ridgeson 
          WarRavens Capital Punishment.
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        Posted - 2014.11.08 00:43:00 -
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          Lost millions? That doesn't make sense.
  I bought a respec and made a list of what I had and what I was still going to get (C Scout and Assault to 5, Engineering/Electronics, Rail Rifle, Tank skills, the obvious crap I wanted again). This time, I was more careful and didn't max out skills I did not need (maxing Armor Fitting Optimization, for example). I ended up having over 5 million SP free because it was not put in places I never needed as well as Assault Rifle which I only had because the Rail Rifle didn't exist a year ago.
  The only way I can think that you "lost" SP is that you spent your points too fast and got things you didn't have originally before getting the things you needed/wanted.
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          Hakyou Brutor 
          Capital Acquisitions LLC
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          Atiim wrote:I thought the SP refund was 100%.   No, it is.
  Some people are just special.
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          MCEINSTEIN08 
          ADAMANTIUM CORE
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        Posted - 2014.11.08 00:43:00 -
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          It would've been so much better if you could just remove the things you do not want. not a complete reset, because you loose a lot. SO TO ALL OF YOU THAT WANT TO RESPEC, REALLY THINK: IS IT WOTH IT LOOSING MILLIONS OF SKILLS POINTS. | 
      
      
      
          
          Blueprint For Murder 
          Immortal Guides
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        Posted - 2014.11.08 00:45:00 -
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          He lost them because of skill point cost changes. Vet tears are the best tears lol.
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          Joseph Ridgeson 
          WarRavens Capital Punishment.
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          MCEINSTEIN08 wrote:Right now I have about 28mil
  But the skills were different a year or so ago, so when you respect today you pay a certain amount of skills, most likely a year or so ago it was less.   There is no way that CCP would give you a free lunch like that in DUST. The only time that there have been a change to Skill Multiplier is when Uprising came out and there was a respec automatically. Engineering/Electronics went from 2 to 5 time skills. So ANY time that there had been a multiplier change, you had already been given a respec, at least to my knowledge.
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          Fizzer XCIV 
          Heaven's Lost Property
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        Posted - 2014.11.08 00:47:00 -
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          Thats right. Remember how the Amarr Light Frame and Scout skills were messed up? That probably has something to do with it...
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          Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui 
          VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp .
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        Posted - 2014.11.08 00:48:00 -
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          MCEINSTEIN08 
          ADAMANTIUM CORE
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        Posted - 2014.11.08 00:52:00 -
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          How long has DUST being released?
  I've being playing since the Closed Beta. When the game launched CCP let us keep our Skills. Believe me, I am missing a lot of skills points, no mistake in the re-acquirement of items. I do not think I could've made a mistake of over 2 millions Skills Points.
  I am missing Level 4 and 5 of the Sentinel that is already 1.8 mil. I am missing at least level 1 to 5 of 3 Dropsuit Modules. And before respec I had amost 600K Skills. There is no way I made a mistake like that. | 
      
      
      
          
          Byozuma Kegawa 
          Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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          Yeah, the Scout skills had been really cheap upon implementation so alot of people jumped on that. Then, when they fixed the costs, people found themselves in negative SP. Apparently, not everyone was affected by the fix. | 
      
      
      
          
          Foley Jones 
          Huogikku Corporation Heiian Conglomerate
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          Meh
  i never asked for a respec, so i have no interest in dumping 20$ on something i may **** up
  i rather buy blueprints and make a ton of **** fit free suits :D
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          Joseph Ridgeson 
          WarRavens Capital Punishment.
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          Fizzer XCIV wrote:Thats right. Remember how the Amarr Light Frame and Scout skills were messed up? That probably has something to do with it...   They just subtracted the SP from what you have in the bank. So if you paid X and you needed to pay 2X, it subtracted X from the amount of SP you had stored. If X is greater than what you had, you went negative. Your SP total didn't change, it went up when you got SP, but you still had to pay off the debt before you could spend anymore SP. Happened to one of my father's alts. Was hilarious seeing him with like 3 million SP, 2.7 million in Amarr Scout, and like -2,000,000 SP. 
  It wouldn't explain for less SP. I am still going with "OP spent points in things he did not originally have before getting everything he originally did."
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          MCEINSTEIN08 
          ADAMANTIUM CORE
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          Foley Jones wrote:Meh
  i never asked for a respec, so i have no interest in dumping 20$ on something i may **** up
  i rather buy blueprints and make a ton of **** fit free suits :D  
 
  Unfortunately I admit I was one of the ones to ask for a respec. but simply because I played other games with it and it worked. Here it does not work. I didn't mind paying. tho now I am paying on another level. | 
      
      
      
          
          Joseph Ridgeson 
          WarRavens Capital Punishment.
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          MCEINSTEIN08 wrote:Foley Jones wrote:Meh
  i never asked for a respec, so i have no interest in dumping 20$ on something i may **** up
  i rather buy blueprints and make a ton of **** fit free suits :D  Unfortunately I admit I was one of the ones to ask for a respec. but simply because I played other games with it and it worked. Here it does not work. I didn't mind paying. tho now I am paying on another level.   All I can say is that I got my 36 million SP back and was able to put it back where I wanted it no problem. My only advice would be to take a look at all the skills you have and try to remember what level you had that skill at. If you have bolt pistol to 5 but no Prototype bolt pistols, that might be a clue that it wasn't at 5. That's 600k SP. Another few skills like that and you start getting into huge numbers of SP that is not missing but is allocated elsewhere.
  If after searching and not finding skills that are different, contact support. But my guess is if you look, you will find the SP stored under the bed.
  Best of luck mate.
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          Ice Royal Glantix 
          Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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          If you really lost millions of skillpoints you would have noticed an immediate drop in your lifetime sp. You should have been paying close attention on what you were skilling into.
  To everyone: Go ahead and respec if you want, this guy just made a few mistakes when skilling into things, don't let this stop you from getting the reset you want.
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          LT SHANKS 
          Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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          I respecced, didn't lose out on any skill points, skilled back into almost everything I previously had, and finished with a content smile on my face.
  I do not understand what you're talking about losing SP because certain skill requirements were changed. You most likely rushed the reallocation process and put SP into skills you previously did not have. I have more SP than you and I can assure that everything is accounted for. | 
      
      
      
          
          MCEINSTEIN08 
          ADAMANTIUM CORE
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          Thank you. | 
      
      
      
          
          Sgt Kirk 
          Fatal Absolution
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          I blew my $20 just to skill out of Caldari **** I thought was going to be Gallente as well as The Incubus and Small Blaster. Because those are just useless now.
 CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.  
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          Kuruld Sengar 
          Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment.
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          MCEINSTEIN08 wrote:How long has DUST being released?
  I've being playing since the Closed Beta. When the game launched CCP let us keep our Skills. Believe me, I am missing a lot of skills points, no mistake in the re-acquirement of items. I do not think I could've made a mistake of over 2 millions Skills Points.
  I am missing Level 4 and 5 of the Sentinel that is already 1.8 mil. I am missing at least level 1 to 5 of 3 Dropsuit Modules. And before respec I had amost 600K Skills. There is no way I made a mistake like that.   The important thing is, how many lifetime did you have before? How many do you have now? If A=B please stop complaining. If you did have some skills that cost more now than they used too, good. Now you aren't getting special sp treatment. | 
      
      
      
          
          OliX PRZESMIEWCA 
          Bezimienni... Dark Taboo
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        Posted - 2014.11.08 01:14:00 -
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          Did U skill first dropsuit type skill to lvl 5 or lvl 3 to get race skill open?
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          Maken Tosch 
          DUST University Ivy League
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          MCEINSTEIN08 wrote:It would've been so much better if you could just remove the things you do not want. not a complete reset, because you loose a lot. SO TO ALL OF YOU THAT WANT TO RESPEC, REALLY THINK: IS IT WOTH IT LOOSING MILLIONS OF SKILLS POINTS.  
  From what I see here, you never lost any skill points. If you really did, submit a petition directly to CCP via the link below because YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO LOSE ANY SKILL POINTS UPON RESPECCING.
  Let me elaborate.
  There were some skill books that had their SP multiplier adjusted over the years since the last time you saw any reallocations handed out by CCP. Let's say you trained up a single racial scout to proto (just for the sake of this argument) before the skill books affecting them were modified and before racial parity came around. If you already trained up that book, you were unaffected even if the multiplier was increased later on. You could still run that proto scout.
  But now, if you respec and train that same suit again with the currently multiplier, you are likely to have to allocate more SP to upgrade that skill book to the max than before. I'm guessing that is what happened to you.
  EDIT:
  Forgot about the link.
  www.dust514.com/support
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          MCEINSTEIN08 
          ADAMANTIUM CORE
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        Posted - 2014.11.08 01:41:00 -
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          Most likely. I may also skilled higher into a certain branch. But like I said I started playing since the closed beta, I am sure the skills changed since then. So maybe it is half and half. Either way I will start a ticket, and see if I am right or wrong.
  Thank you. | 
      
      
      
          
          Riruodo 
          Templar Investigative Commission
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          This is making me paranoid. How far back do you have to go to where CCP started changing skill pricing?
  I'm from August (of this year). Am I safe for a respec?
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          Maken Tosch 
          DUST University Ivy League
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          Riruodo wrote:This is making me paranoid. How far back do you have to go to where CCP started changing skill pricing?
  I'm from August (of this year). Am I safe for a respec?  
  For you, don't worry. The changes we're talking about here are pretty dated. If you don't remember a time when scouts were only limited to two races and heavies limited to only one race, you're good.
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          Soraya Xel 
          Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
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          Should be pretty much impossible to lose skill points in this process except for a colossal screw-up. When skill levels are changed, your skill points are either refunded or consumed to match, so that is also not a possibility.
 CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback. 
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