DUST Search - proto stomping and who faces who

TIMMY DAVIS wrote:

With the new ISK rewards, it seems like, a larger portion of the population is running not just proto equipment, but advanced suits running proto and advanced gear.

I suppose this is a good thing, but some teams are just running wild.

Three Ambushes in a row, I got put onto a team with one squad once and against them twice. They took over the three matches each time.

When I was against them I might get lucky and kill one, but seconds later they would kill me and heal their squad mate. I start shooting them, they twist around and start shooting me and because they have more EHP and do more damage, I die before them. Occasionally I get them when damaged or kill them before they twist and target me.

When I was with them, they killed the other team so quickly, I could only get assists and the occasional kill.

I wait 5-10 minutes and again, I get put in a match against them. I tried to avoid them. The wait time was over 2 minutes, so it's like the system waited to stick me back in with them.

As the match goes, I generally start with an advanced suit and a few proto things (shield/armor module, armor repairer, maybe scanner) and I fill in the rest with what I can advanced or normal stuff. Then depending on the opposition, I would switch suits, AA occasionally, an MD or Laser kit. Now I have to go up to a advanced suit with proto and advanced gear only. Or else I don't last long enough to get assists. And this is not just Ambushes, it's Dominations as well. I haven't played enough Skirmishes since the change to know if this is true in them.

They are so much better than me, it's silly, but I have enough SP to get stuck playing against them regularly. I don't make enough in ISK to lose 5-6-7 of these Advanced / Proto suits every ambush, which is now unfortunately much more common.

There will be folks laughing, ha-ha-ha, you suck. Yeah, well using baseball analogies, they are All Stars. I'm a AAA player. I admit it.

It seems like SP is the main factor in who faces who in matches now. Could we tweak this to include kill ratios, maybe damage caused per match or WP per match or WP per match played that day, etc.

Thanks for reading this.

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TIMMY DAVIS Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 38	Posted - 2014.11.07 03:02:00 - [1] - Quote With the new ISK rewards, it seems like, a larger portion of the population is running not just proto equipment, but advanced suits running proto and advanced gear. I suppose this is a good thing, but some teams are just running wild. Three Ambushes in a row, I got put onto a team with one squad once and against them twice. They took over the three matches each time. When I was against them I might get lucky and kill one, but seconds later they would kill me and heal their squad mate. I start shooting them, they twist around and start shooting me and because they have more EHP and do more damage, I die before them. Occasionally I get them when damaged or kill them before they twist and target me. When I was with them, they killed the other team so quickly, I could only get assists and the occasional kill. I wait 5-10 minutes and again, I get put in a match against them. I tried to avoid them. The wait time was over 2 minutes, so it's like the system waited to stick me back in with them. As the match goes, I generally start with an advanced suit and a few proto things (shield/armor module, armor repairer, maybe scanner) and I fill in the rest with what I can advanced or normal stuff. Then depending on the opposition, I would switch suits, AA occasionally, an MD or Laser kit. Now I have to go up to a advanced suit with proto and advanced gear only. Or else I don't last long enough to get assists. And this is not just Ambushes, it's Dominations as well. I haven't played enough Skirmishes since the change to know if this is true in them. They are so much better than me, it's silly, but I have enough SP to get stuck playing against them regularly. I don't make enough in ISK to lose 5-6-7 of these Advanced / Proto suits every ambush, which is now unfortunately much more common. There will be folks laughing, ha-ha-ha, you suck. Yeah, well using baseball analogies, they are All Stars. I'm a AAA player. I admit it. It seems like SP is the main factor in who faces who in matches now. Could we tweak this to include kill ratios, maybe damage caused per match or WP per match or WP per match played that day, etc. Thanks for reading this.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2400	Posted - 2014.11.07 03:14:00 - [2] - Quote I don't understand this. The money payout seems to not changed. The only difference is that yesterday was a fluke. Why is everyone saying that the payout is different? Because I am getting the same amount of money I was getting before yesterday. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 264	Posted - 2014.11.07 03:14:00 - [3] - Quote Join the chat channel LFSquad. be on at 3:40pm EST tomorrow. Join my squad and we'll wreck. All of 1.9 so far i have been solo running advanced proto or BPO. BPO is really good actually so if you have one use it. 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) `- Open Beta Vet - 31mil sp -` R.I.P Dust 514
ADS IS OP Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2014.11.07 03:17:00 - [4] - Quote TIMMAHHYEE TIMMAAH TIMMOOOOO TIM TIM TIMMAAAAAH TIMMMMmmmmmmm Tim Tim Timmmmmm Timmmaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhaaaaaaa Timmalalamma Timalogiiiiiiiiii Tim T ........
xavier zor G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 176	Posted - 2014.11.07 04:50:00 - [5] - Quote TIMMY DAVIS wrote: It seems like SP is the main factor in who faces who in matches now. Could we tweak this to include kill ratios, maybe damage caused per match or WP per match or WP per match played that day, etc. Thanks for reading this. I read it, but i don't think this statement is true. I purposely did really crap a few matches to be put with kaizuka sniper's squad. That match i do good and get put against him the next match :( Funnest role: Shield regenerating caldari assault...Assault ck.0 here! Best scout: Caldari scout.....Scout ck..0 here!
TIMMY DAVIS Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 38	Posted - 2014.11.07 05:40:00 - [6] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: I don't understand this. The money payout seems to not changed. The only difference is that yesterday was a fluke. Why is everyone saying that the payout is different? Because I am getting the same amount of money I was getting before yesterday. In the past I would get 100,000 ISK even If I came in 11 or 12th (24 or 25th overall) against the All Star players. Now I'm getting 70,000, once I got 16,000 or 18,000 for coming in 14th on my team and 30th overall. I got dropped into an ongoing match (ambush oms) with like a third of the team left I think it was 32 and each time I materialized right in front of 5 or 6 red guys, 4 times. I was able to score less than 100 damage against them while they did several thousand to me. The ISK didn't cover one suit let alone four. The only guys who were lower than me, had more deaths, because they had been in the match longer than me. I can guess at their ISK payout. The ISK for the bottom half seems to be lower and the competition higher. It's only been a few days, so maybe I just need to wait, but the payouts at the top seem to be a little higher and near the bottom lower. The crazy day, I got one match with a 1.4 million ISK payout and another with 400,000 ISK payout, with a different character, I'm not talking about that.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2402	Posted - 2014.11.07 06:05:00 - [7] - Quote Coming late into a match severely screws over you ISK and SP. Seriously, joining a match that is 10% complete results in slightly more than half the rewards you would have gotten if you would have joined late. At least for my experience, at least. It is a really borked system. I am usually in the top 6 of WP. I have not noticed more or less ISK overall. There is variance, of course, depending on the stuff I have destroyed but I have not noticed vast differences that people are reporting. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
TIMMY DAVIS Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 38	Posted - 2014.11.07 06:06:00 - [8] - Quote Latest game died 6 times. various suits. 2 / 1 / 6 came in 12th and tied for 23/24/25, my team lost by 20+ lives. 132,000 ISK 2200 SP 180 WP. all 6 deaths were from proto armor (according to the armor description- may or may not be real) and the weapon was a proto, AR, CR and HMG. Boundless was the common thread this match. I used a 47,000 ISK suit twice, 45,000 suit once and a 27,000 suit three times I'm losing money and if I go down in item quality, I die sooner and cause less damage.
Booby Tuesdays Tuesdays With Boobies 941	Posted - 2014.11.07 06:11:00 - [9] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: I don't understand this. The money payout seems to not changed. The only difference is that yesterday was a fluke. Why is everyone saying that the payout is different? Because I am getting the same amount of money I was getting before yesterday. I have noticed a difference. I used to average 180 - 250k for doing well in a match. 1500 - 2000+ WP, popped a few vehicles, rep, replenish, revive, etc. Now when I feel that I did well in a match, I am getting well over 300k each time. It's nice. I feel like I am being compensated accordingly. ( . )( . )
CUSE WarLord KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 47	Posted - 2014.11.07 06:18:00 - [10] - Quote TIMMY DAVIS wrote: With the new ISK rewards, it seems like, a larger portion of the population is running not just proto equipment, but advanced suits running proto and advanced gear. I suppose this is a good thing, but some teams are just running wild. Three Ambushes in a row, I got put onto a team with one squad once and against them twice. They took over the three matches each time. When I was against them I might get lucky and kill one, but seconds later they would kill me and heal their squad mate. I start shooting them, they twist around and start shooting me and because they have more EHP and do more damage, I die before them. Occasionally I get them when damaged or kill them before they twist and target me. When I was with them, they killed the other team so quickly, I could only get assists and the occasional kill. I wait 5-10 minutes and again, I get put in a match against them. I tried to avoid them. The wait time was over 2 minutes, so it's like the system waited to stick me back in with them. As the match goes, I generally start with an advanced suit and a few proto things (shield/armor module, armor repairer, maybe scanner) and I fill in the rest with what I can advanced or normal stuff. Then depending on the opposition, I would switch suits, AA occasionally, an MD or Laser kit. Now I have to go up to a advanced suit with proto and advanced gear only. Or else I don't last long enough to get assists. And this is not just Ambushes, it's Dominations as well. I haven't played enough Skirmishes since the change to know if this is true in them. They are so much better than me, it's silly, but I have enough SP to get stuck playing against them regularly. I don't make enough in ISK to lose 5-6-7 of these Advanced / Proto suits every ambush, which is now unfortunately much more common. There will be folks laughing, ha-ha-ha, you suck. Yeah, well using baseball analogies, they are All Stars. I'm a AAA player. I admit it. It seems like SP is the main factor in who faces who in matches now. Could we tweak this to include kill ratios, maybe damage caused per match or WP per match or WP per match played that day, etc. Thanks for reading this. don't avoid this trust me this is making you into a great player some day. this is how dust works by playing against tuff players all the time is the fastist way to improve your abilities.



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