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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.11.06 23:50:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Use TAC AR and stop QQing damnit, gallente is OP and you know it ;)
tac ar is still too short range too small dmg per clip and damage per second vs RR.. even BAR is better then TAR if you can live whit out the scope
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.11.06 23:50:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Use TAC AR and stop QQing damnit, gallente is OP and you know it ;) Gallente is OP unless you look at statistics and math :) None of which you have presented. But I agree with you in that all side arms are for engaging at shorter ranges.
Well, I don't feel like doing the math for you all over again, since I did it countless times before and posted in many threads, but you can just look at Rattati's stats.
Gallente Assaults are the most underperforming Assault suits.
Plasma Rifles are below average, with the only exception being the BAR... That is getting nerfed.
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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.11.06 23:52:00 -
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Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:Cat Merc wrote:...Due to sidearms.
There are no sidearms with a range longer than 60m, meaning that there is no sidearm to cover for the Plasma Rifle's weakness, while pretty much all the sidearms are built to operate within short-medium ranges.
This means that operators of weapons like the Rail Rifle can operate at any range if they need to.
If a Plasma Rifle operator needs to engage at ranges longer than his Plasma Rifle... Nothing he can do but go back to the supply depot.
-Just an observation, take from this what you will. The problem is that there really isn't a medium range in this game. Usually it is either long range or beeline right up on you in CQ. Add to that the arena rumble nature to this game and we have failure of most things that would otherwise be useful in a traditional combat setting or in a special ops, small scale insertion. This is runny, runny, shooty, shooty and so the stuff like RR vs. AR is all messed up.
SCR is a med range weapon, ASCR is a cqb one. like RR is supposed to be a long range weapon and ARR a medium range one and AR is short to med ( Ar and burst = close, BAR/TAR = med ).. CR is med and ACR is close.
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G Felix
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Posted - 2014.11.07 01:12:00 -
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Isn't the consistently underperforming magsec SMG supposed to fill the niche if a longer range sidearm? I would think it would make a natural pairing for short range weapons like the plasma AR and HMG, and have tried to use it as such, it's just that the Breach SMG and Scrambler Pistol consistently do a better job. Maybe a magsec buff would sort this out?
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.07 01:16:00 -
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That's why Rail Rifle users are scrubs
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jace silencerww
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.11.10 12:02:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Races with Tanks are undeniably superior IN GAME to those that don't.....except the Gallente and Caldari.
Cuz Amarr are just better.
LOL we might one day get the Amarr & Minnie vehicles..... maybe if we ask for them a lot CCP Rattati will give them to us.... maybe I hope. |
Aeon Amadi
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.11.10 12:54:00 -
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Sounds like we need some personal drones that can help defend against long range fire by tracking the incoming rounds, but processing speeds limit it in a way that it can't track close range weaponry fast enough.
Oh, ****, Dust 514 isn't getting anymore development.
Oh well, guess Gallente are boned. Par for the course, really.
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna
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Posted - 2014.11.10 12:58:00 -
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It's just fact that short range weapons will never be as good as long range weapons.
1) CCP will never buff the range of the Gallente weapons even though that's like the only thing they need to be fixed. Or give gals bonuses to RR usage.
2) CCP values DPS over range so they think that their dps:range ratio is fair. It isn't...
Oh wait there is a third one, there will never be a side arm or an item to compensate for our short range. The closest thing would be a cloak but that's limited to scouts and kinetic catalyzers but for those to be completely useful you need high stamina and regen.
Sigh... I guess life is always more interesting at the short end of the stick?
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CommanderBolt
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Posted - 2014.11.10 14:05:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Sounds like we need some personal drones that can help defend against long range fire by tracking the incoming rounds, but processing speeds limit it in a way that it can't track close range weaponry fast enough.
Oh, ****, Dust 514 isn't getting anymore development.
Oh well, guess Gallente are boned. Par for the course, really.
Gallente are boned - par for the course?
The Tac AR of old, the Gallente Scout, the Madrugar, the Shotgun, the BAR.
Would you like to know more?
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna
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Posted - 2014.11.10 14:31:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Sounds like we need some personal drones that can help defend against long range fire by tracking the incoming rounds, but processing speeds limit it in a way that it can't track close range weaponry fast enough.
Oh, ****, Dust 514 isn't getting anymore development.
Oh well, guess Gallente are boned. Par for the course, really. Gallente are boned - par for the course? The Tac AR of old, the Gallente Scout, the Madrugar, the Shotgun, the BAR. Would you like to know more?
You know what's funny everything Gallente that managed to reach OP status was nerfed within weeks. Barring the fact that every new Gallente item since beta has been released pre nerfed and continue to suck. Everything else that was OP took months, in some occasions years to fix. For example the Caldari logistic took about 4 months to fix, the combat and rail rifles took about 6 months to a year.
Also did you know the only lol fits remaining are composed of Gallente items?
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