DUST Search - New Moods and Snipers

Kodho wrote:

I know the sniper haters will absolutely rip me for this. I'm not sure what new mood it is (Toxic or Stormy) but it is totally incompatible with the sniper role. The lack of vision down range completly takes the sniper out of the game. If that was CCP's intent, it worked. Now, the maps that come up with these moods will not be playable by snipers. Snipers will now be forced to play only the maps that are conducive to the sniper role. Believe me, there are not to many of them left. I expect the sniper community to be constantly leaving battles at the beginning if these conditions present themselves.

This is not how it should be. It's a complete waste of my time to join a battle and leave when this happens. It takes way to long to do this. CCP, please rethink these moods. It is extremely unfair for certain roles to be abolished because of the mood. One solution would be to allow players to choose the moods they wish to play. Also, choosing the maps you want to play would be nice as well.

Rip away haters!

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Kodho Hidden Suppression 52	Posted - 2014.11.05 14:00:00 - [1] - Quote I know the sniper haters will absolutely rip me for this. I'm not sure what new mood it is (Toxic or Stormy) but it is totally incompatible with the sniper role. The lack of vision down range completly takes the sniper out of the game. If that was CCP's intent, it worked. Now, the maps that come up with these moods will not be playable by snipers. Snipers will now be forced to play only the maps that are conducive to the sniper role. Believe me, there are not to many of them left. I expect the sniper community to be constantly leaving battles at the beginning if these conditions present themselves. This is not how it should be. It's a complete waste of my time to join a battle and leave when this happens. It takes way to long to do this. CCP, please rethink these moods. It is extremely unfair for certain roles to be abolished because of the mood. One solution would be to allow players to choose the moods they wish to play. Also, choosing the maps you want to play would be nice as well. Rip away haters! Long Live the Scout! Kodho
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4409	Posted - 2014.11.05 14:02:00 - [2] - Quote If it's greenish it's toxic if it's white-ish it's stormy (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2333	Posted - 2014.11.05 14:02:00 - [3] - Quote Matchmaking would be a mess if that were to happen. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 88	Posted - 2014.11.05 14:06:00 - [4] - Quote 1. Snipers generally hide in the redline and do sweet FA so frankly its a good thing and forces you either 1a. Out into the match where you fight and i can shoot you 1b. You quit and leave which means less dead weight 1c. You stay man up and snipe through fog causing rage thoughout the enemy team
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 345	Posted - 2014.11.05 14:10:00 - [5] - Quote run with the group and try sniping on these maps, it's pretty fun
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 885	Posted - 2014.11.05 14:11:00 - [6] - Quote Um, so? Some situations will be unsuitable for a role...what about all those people who have died when twitching about on the volcano mood because it looked like a red on their radar? Stormy is a good mood, I actually wish it had more thickness variation to it: sometimes it is how it is now, sometimes thicker. It would help when dealing with some large open spaces and make some games feel more claustrophobic. I'm not saying this because of snipers, just that some roles aren't viable in every situation: a shotgunner is of no use in a long range firefight; a sniper needs to adjust and move in if it's stormy. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
WARxion ForDUST G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 95	Posted - 2014.11.05 14:19:00 - [7] - Quote Quote: Snipers will now be forced to play only the maps that are conducive to the sniper role. So you need to leave the redline or jump down from the MCC once in a while, damn... New Eden is harsh. Yes, I'm that desperate...
jace silencerww Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 73	Posted - 2014.11.05 14:31:00 - [8] - Quote WARxion ForDUST wrote: Quote: Snipers will now be forced to play only the maps that are conducive to the sniper role. So you need to leave the redline or jump down from the MCC once in a while, damn... New Eden is harsh. oh be quiet sniper hater. please snipers do help on the right maps. tell me a guy who go 35+ kills as a sniper did not help his team oh wait that side still lost! why blue berries on the ground could not hold a point. I hate the mood effect wish you could just turn them off. oh yea look at the mass driver it is more like a flare gun now lol. the ash, toxic, and storm like cool but get in the way. just remember next time when a sniper could have killed the cloak scout the get shot you in the back but the "mood" affect was blocked the view.
Pvt Numnutz Prophets of the Velocirapture 1921	Posted - 2014.11.05 14:32:00 - [9] - Quote Its not totally incompatible, its just harder. It also works with you as the slug trail is harder to see and there fore harder to trace the sniper. Master Skyshark rider Kaalaka dakka tamer
Forlorn Destrier Havok Dynasty 2918	Posted - 2014.11.05 14:33:00 - [10] - Quote Kodho wrote: I know the sniper haters will absolutely rip me for this. I'm not sure what new mood it is (Toxic or Stormy) but it is totally incompatible with the sniper role. The lack of vision down range completly takes the sniper out of the game. If that was CCP's intent, it worked. Now, the maps that come up with these moods will not be playable by snipers. Snipers will now be forced to play only the maps that are conducive to the sniper role. Believe me, there are not to many of them left. I expect the sniper community to be constantly leaving battles at the beginning if these conditions present themselves. This is not how it should be. It's a complete waste of my time to join a battle and leave when this happens. It takes way to long to do this. CCP, please rethink these moods. It is extremely unfair for certain roles to be abolished because of the mood. One solution would be to allow players to choose the moods they wish to play. Also, choosing the maps you want to play would be nice as well. Rip away haters! Or... they could use a different role. I'm still amazed by the mentality that a player can only be one thing. This is not like other games where you can only use one class. There are no real "classes" in this game. Want to be a medic but don't like the Logi suit? Not an issue. Custom build something else. Soapbox. Me. Getting off. (not like that) I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning

bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries 968	Posted - 2014.11.05 14:35:00 - [11] - Quote lol
Pvt Numnutz Prophets of the Velocirapture 1922	Posted - 2014.11.05 14:48:00 - [12] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Or... they could use a different role. I'm still amazed by the mentality that a player can only be one thing. This is not like other games where you can only use one class. There are no real "classes" in this game. Want to be a medic but don't like the Logi suit? Not an issue. Custom build something else. Soapbox. Me. Getting off. (not like that) Indeed, Im a dropship pilot and part of being a dropship pilot is knowing the maps and sockets you can fly on and knowing the maps and sockets you can't. Some are just better than others and some don't require a dropship at all. Take manus peak for instance, there is no reason for a dropship to be on that map, its too small to warrent rapid transport and far to vulnerable for fire support, and also too small. So I tank, or snipe, or commando, or scout or forge gun etc. OP, if you feel you can't snipe, or the map is bad for sniping and you would be more useful doing something else then do something else. Master Skyshark rider Kaalaka dakka tamer
PROPHET HELLSCREAM UNSVER UNITED 12	Posted - 2014.11.05 15:57:00 - [13] - Quote Kodho wrote: I know the sniper haters will absolutely rip me for this. I'm not sure what new mood it is (Toxic or Stormy) but it is totally incompatible with the sniper role. The lack of vision down range completly takes the sniper out of the game. If that was CCP's intent, it worked. Now, the maps that come up with these moods will not be playable by snipers. Snipers will now be forced to play only the maps that are conducive to the sniper role. Believe me, there are not to many of them left. I expect the sniper community to be constantly leaving battles at the beginning if these conditions present themselves. This is not how it should be. It's a complete waste of my time to join a battle and leave when this happens. It takes way to long to do this. CCP, please rethink these moods. It is extremely unfair for certain roles to be abolished because of the mood. One solution would be to allow players to choose the moods they wish to play. Also, choosing the maps you want to play would be nice as well. Rip away haters! give it a litte more time... in the beginning it was hard but give it a try... now i can find a use to the kalakyota, thing i didn`t use since Delta... the only thing i will miss is to blow the cloacked units like i did. don`t quit fit another role and get in the fight.. and lets keep the sniper haters comunity active... Hobby: Headshot on cloaked units
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 66	Posted - 2014.11.05 16:04:00 - [14] - Quote The toxic mood was pretty bad for me when I had it yesterday. But it was bad for the entire squad - our screens kept going black for no apparent reason (and not at the same time, so it didn't impact upon both teams simultaneously, leading to deaths). The new maps aren't great either for snipers, and I might be tripping but I swear the hills and redline have changed in some maps too. I tried to get to one of my favourite spots and couldn't because it was now in the redline!
PROPHET HELLSCREAM UNSVER UNITED 12	Posted - 2014.11.05 16:10:00 - [15] - Quote Raptor Princess wrote: The toxic mood was pretty bad for me when I had it yesterday. But it was bad for the entire squad - our screens kept going black for no apparent reason (and not at the same time, so it didn't impact upon both teams simultaneously, leading to deaths). The new maps aren't great either for snipers, and I might be tripping but I swear the hills and redline have changed in some maps too. I tried to get to one of my favourite spots and couldn't because it was now in the redline! yes there are maps where that all changed... you`ll find another spots like i did... Hobby: Headshot on cloaked units
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 66	Posted - 2014.11.05 16:27:00 - [16] - Quote PROPHET HELLSCREAM wrote: Raptor Princess wrote: The toxic mood was pretty bad for me when I had it yesterday. But it was bad for the entire squad - our screens kept going black for no apparent reason (and not at the same time, so it didn't impact upon both teams simultaneously, leading to deaths). The new maps aren't great either for snipers, and I might be tripping but I swear the hills and redline have changed in some maps too. I tried to get to one of my favourite spots and couldn't because it was now in the redline! yes there are maps where that all changed... you`ll find another spots like i did... I already have on some maps, but I'm always going to miss some of those old spots! And on some maps there's no point sniping now, so I'm not skilling further into it
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 237	Posted - 2014.11.05 17:08:00 - [17] - Quote Oh my god do Snipers and ADS ever stop shouting that they are the victims? Theres always money in the banana stand.
Lloyd Orfay SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 167	Posted - 2014.11.05 17:12:00 - [18] - Quote Kodho wrote: I know the sniper haters will absolutely rip me for this. I'm not sure what new mood it is (Toxic or Stormy) but it is totally incompatible with the sniper role. The lack of vision down range completly takes the sniper out of the game. If that was CCP's intent, it worked. Now, the maps that come up with these moods will not be playable by snipers. Snipers will now be forced to play only the maps that are conducive to the sniper role. Believe me, there are not to many of them left. I expect the sniper community to be constantly leaving battles at the beginning if these conditions present themselves. This is not how it should be. It's a complete waste of my time to join a battle and leave when this happens. It takes way to long to do this. CCP, please rethink these moods. It is extremely unfair for certain roles to be abolished because of the mood. One solution would be to allow players to choose the moods they wish to play. Also, choosing the maps you want to play would be nice as well. Rip away haters! "There are not many of them left" Mhm.... Yes ...not many.. taking potshots at people rooftop camping while everyone else gets their Kaala kaka carrot cakeiota, I sh!t in a cone, and charge sniper rifles to kill me Hater is just a word used as an excuse to be silly.
Lloyd Orfay SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 167	Posted - 2014.11.05 17:13:00 - [19] - Quote Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Oh my god do Snipers and ADS ever stop shouting that they are the victims? ADS kind of are victims, some, but ADS are still a bit too powerful. Snipers are never victims. And no. Just use the "ignore posts" option.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1834	Posted - 2014.11.05 17:26:00 - [20] - Quote Well kodho, you could leave then red line for once. Delt for CPM2 CPM1 MISSION : FAILED Moss-delt on skype

Sinboto Simmons Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 6455	Posted - 2014.11.05 17:54:00 - [21] - Quote Two points to consider: Something on the map that makes an item useless in most situations is a major issue, this is true, if it's as bad as stated it must be pushed for a fix. The sniper is in fact also a specialised weapon, like every specialised weapon it's not the best for every situation, so yes there's a time to use it and a time to swap gear. Mass drivers, lazor rifles, AV, and sidearms also have this role, some with extra balance added like the MDs low ammo/ROF. Should you be able to use them in every situation, yes, if you're skilled enough even do well. Should they be able to work at there best all the time, no, that defeats the point of the weapon itself. Try multiple roles, perhaps sink SP into a second style if you haven't, even if it's just basic gear your team benefits from your effort, you do hurt said team if you just leave a spot open, so try to scan, logi, hack, or drop spawns, you don't need to be a slayer to help. You've also posted this in the wrong section of the forums. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Sinboto Simmons Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 6455	Posted - 2014.11.05 17:58:00 - [22] - Quote Wow, been preachy today. Which is odd for a non religious person..... Pardons if that came off condescending or arogant, not intentional. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
SagaB Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 34	Posted - 2014.11.05 18:16:00 - [23] - Quote No way! The mood of a map can affect tactics on the battlefield? That's blasphemy!
Mike Ox Bigger KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 350	Posted - 2014.11.05 18:24:00 - [24] - Quote Kodho wrote: I know the sniper haters will absolutely rip me for this. I'm not sure what new mood it is (Toxic or Stormy) but it is totally incompatible with the sniper role. The lack of vision down range completly takes the sniper out of the game. If that was CCP's intent, it worked. Now, the maps that come up with these moods will not be playable by snipers. Snipers will now be forced to play only the maps that are conducive to the sniper role. Believe me, there are not to many of them left. I expect the sniper community to be constantly leaving battles at the beginning if these conditions present themselves. This is not how it should be. It's a complete waste of my time to join a battle and leave when this happens. It takes way to long to do this. CCP, please rethink these moods. It is extremely unfair for certain roles to be abolished because of the mood. One solution would be to allow players to choose the moods they wish to play. Also, choosing the maps you want to play would be nice as well. Rip away haters! No bro you just gotta run your Sniper like in every other FPS game that's ever been made. Which means you stand just out side rifle range and you run away and back up when they get close or pull a sidearm. The whole sniping all the way across the map is ridiculous and not how sniping should ever be played in a FPS.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2319	Posted - 2014.11.05 18:30:00 - [25] - Quote CNTS, FKERS, NOOBS! LEAVE THE GOD DAMN RED LINE AGHHHHHHHHHHHH AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH You know you can move around the battlefield!? Not every shot has to be taken from so far back in the redline! "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f*k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Kodho Hidden Suppression 54	Posted - 2014.11.05 18:33:00 - [26] - Quote Thanks Bolt. That's exactly the response I was expecting. Long Live the Scout! Kodho
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 68	Posted - 2014.11.05 18:34:00 - [27] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: CNTS, F*KERS, NOOBS! LEAVE THE GOD DAMN RED LINE AGHHHHHHHHHHHH AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH You know you can move around the battlefield!? Not every shot has to be taken from so far back in the redline! I'm pretty sure every sniper knows this... Not all of us sit in the redline. It's more fun sitting next to the enemy redline and killing them as they spawn anyway.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14220	Posted - 2014.11.05 19:03:00 - [28] - Quote Not going to rip but does the stormy mood have affects on other roles? GÇ£How does this all work then?GÇ¥ GÇ£Like so Choirboy.GÇ¥ Mila to Kador, Sub Zero Club, Shoashu Sasaanko
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 69	Posted - 2014.11.05 19:08:00 - [29] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Not going to rip but does the stormy mood have affects on other roles? I've always found that moods have less of an impact when I'm being a logi then when I'm a sniper - because mercs are closer they are much larger so the stuff flying around in the wind doesn't interfere with a shot so much (but maybe that's just me)
Pvt Numnutz Prophets of the Velocirapture 1933	Posted - 2014.11.05 19:25:00 - [30] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Not going to rip but does the stormy mood have affects on other roles? Makes it harder to see when flying a dropship, and find ground targets. Master Skyshark rider Kaalaka dakka tamer



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